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January 07, 2005

"What are we supposed to use, harsh language?"

But maybe even that would be forbidden by today's angry liberals, Private Frost.*

Liberals keep deliberately conflating tough, psychologically-oriented methods of breaking terrorists down with actual torture; when they can't call something torture, they say "tantamount to torture," as if we're not supposed to notice that "tantamount to" sort of modifies "torture" there.

Rantwraith is all over Andrew "Gob-Smackingly Vile" Sullivan for his, let us say, delicateness when it comes to interrogating terrorists.

Wrapping a terrorist in the Israeli flag is now "torture," apparently.

Give. Me. An F'n' Break.

Wrapping a terrorist in the Israeli flag is using his own psychosis against him. There's some intended mental pain there, certainly, but this isn't exactly cutting off fingers, now is it?

*More Loose Shit! I'm told Hudson didn't say this, but rather the younger black guy (Private Frost) who gets killed pretty quickly.

Loose shit, I know. But then, it's Anything-Goes Hawaiian Shirt Gonzo Friday.


posted by Ace at 10:19 AM
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Actually, it was Pvt. Frost, "Frosty", who said the line in your title, not Hudson. Great movie though.

"Yeah, but it's a dry heat!"

Posted by: Benjamin on January 7, 2005 10:33 AM

You're kidding me.

Hudson didn't say that?

Oh, man, if I've blown two in one day... loose shit.

Posted by: ace on January 7, 2005 10:34 AM

You've got three days, Ace. D'you hear me? ONE WEEK.

Posted by: Rocketeer67 on January 7, 2005 10:39 AM

hahahah... I just noticed that, re-listening to the tape. Three days, then one week.

At least he gave them MORE time, not less.

Posted by: ace on January 7, 2005 10:43 AM

Sullivan: The very definition of loose shit.

Posted by: Allah on January 7, 2005 10:43 AM

Thanks for the link. I want to be clear - I am against what I consider to be torture: the physical abuse or harm of individuals in U.S. custody, whether detainees or persons of interest or whatever. But the harsh reality is, we need information from these people. Sooner rather than later. Aside from the humanitarian case torture, real torture produces suspect information.

I'm reminded of Reservoir Dogs when Chris Penn says (about the cop tied to a chair) "If you beat this asshole long enough he'll tell you he's the goddamn toothfairy but that don't make it so." (or something close to that.)

We need effective methods of coercing these guys to talk in a manner that produces reliable information. Whining about flags and insults doesn't help or even begin to address the real issue.

Posted by: Rant Wraith on January 7, 2005 10:46 AM

Allah,

Who is that guy? He looks familiar.

Posted by: ace on January 7, 2005 10:52 AM

He's the only important one in front of that sign.

Posted by: Allah on January 7, 2005 10:57 AM

You're kidding? Anka?

Is that photo-shopped?

Posted by: ace on January 7, 2005 10:58 AM

Allah? That Allah? I thought you fell off the face of the earth. What happened to your blog? Did you retire or something?

Posted by: Rant Wraith on January 7, 2005 10:59 AM

Ace -- Here's the source image.

Rant Wraith -- I'm back at my old Blogspot site, but I won't be posting regularly.

Posted by: Allah on January 7, 2005 11:22 AM

"A first-hand sworn deposition!" THE VIRGINS are giddy with laughter! You Americans are so incredably stupid and your Liberals like Andrew Sullivan are such amazing traitors. In Islam, lying is acceptable against your enemy, words are mere weapons to be used against your enemy and Moslems lie without even thinking about it. And your idea of "torture" is laughable! Isalm knows how to torture someone. Watch the Nick Berg video and see what a dull knife hacking and sawing slowly through his neck until his head finally comes off does to someone. Now THAT is torture, Islamic style.

ALLAH AKBAR!!!

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on January 7, 2005 11:41 AM

Whatever happened to sodium penathol (sp?).

Seriously - instead of torture why don't we just drug the shit out of these guys.

Alternatively, just wack 'em up on so much acid they thing they're a purple elephant. If that doesn't work, we can at least release them knowing they won't be shooting at any more US soldiers any time soon.

Posted by: fat kid on January 7, 2005 11:58 AM

I think its perfectly OK to exploit the problem that Muslims have with pork. Don't feel like talking, Achmed? You get several slices of crisp delicious bacon hidden in your falafel. Now how could anybody call that torture?

For heaven's sake, bacon is delicious.

Posted by: lauraw on January 7, 2005 12:15 PM

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good...

Here's the best plan. Don't torture prisoners, because you might get bad info, and you have to put up with liberal whining. Instead, plant a tracking chip in their skin and let them go.

You'll get all the information you want.

Posted by: Sobek on January 7, 2005 12:48 PM

Yeah, I've wanted to do that follow-the-rat thing for years.

Can we actually do that, tech-wise? Seems you'd have to have a very small chip giving off a fairly strong signal.

Posted by: ace on January 7, 2005 12:55 PM

Ace, yeah they actually experimented with that in Mexico and other latin american countries where hostage-taking is prevalent. Turns out the hostage takers could scan for the chips, then just cut that apendage off.

So, I guess one might say it backfired.

Plus, if that ever came out, the terrorists would just be summarily executed if they ever went back to their "cells", or they'd have a predetermined plan to run to one of our allies to raise our suspicions.

net net net - if it's being done we're not gonna hear about it for any number of reasons.

Posted by: fat kid on January 7, 2005 01:36 PM

"What the hell are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?"

You bleached out all the color, my brother.

Posted by: George Gaskell on January 7, 2005 05:26 PM

Fat Kid--that's a great argument for planting the chip in the terrorists' head!

FWIW, I was corresponding with a friend over there with a little minor responsibility about a similar sort of plan. He said he liked my idea, but his resources were just too thin to implement it. Might be true, might have been a polite blow-off.

Posted by: see-dubya on January 7, 2005 11:25 PM

And i suppose that playing STAR AND STRIPES FOREVER or UNDER THE DOUBLE EAGLE or THE NAIONAL ANTHEM will be tourtore to liberal panies brought up on dumb songs like MUSKRAT LOVE or AGE OF AQUARIUS? what a bunch of whinning little whimps

Posted by: mad heron on January 8, 2005 09:58 AM

Violent jihad or holy war against unbelievers. Murder, stealing, torture, slavery and rape against unbelievers is acceptable if couched in terms of jihad.

Christians and Jews allowed to live in Muslim dominated lands provided they pay a special tax and accept their status as second class citizens. The status of polythiests is tenuous at best, they will eventually be eliminated either by persecution or death.

My dear brother, please read Chronicles of Islamic Wisdom.

Here are a few excerpts from the book of one of Islam s' supreme
spiritual leader: Ayatollah Khomeini: "A man can have sexual
pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he should be responsible for her
subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to
marry the girls sister" - From Khomeini's
book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran,
1990.

"A man can have sex with animals such as sheep?s, cows, camels
and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his
orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own
village, however selling the meat to the next door village
should be fine". From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth
volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel,
their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their
milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed
and as quickly as possible and burned." The little green book,
Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini, Political, Phylosophica, Social
and Religious with a special introduction by Clive Irving, ISBN
number 0-553-14032-9, page 47"It is better for a girl to marry
in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her
husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in
heaven" - From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth
volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 REMEMBER IRAN CONTRA?
Eleven things are impure: urine, excrement, sperm...non-Moslem men and women...and the sweat of an excrement-eating camel.Ayatollah Khomeini

The most important information to know about Muslims,is that they will smile to your face and cut your throat from the back.

I'm so scared i have a wart on my cock. Is it a cocksucking muslim ?
93% muslim males have anal and/or genital warts ALLAH

Posted by: wrs on January 23, 2005 07:27 PM

Wow, I'm glad I live where I live, CANADA!
also go USA! I which I was in U.S.A.

Posted by: Zero on January 31, 2005 08:58 PM

Im not sure I understand... do you hate muslims in general, or... Arab Muslims...

Because there is... or what I belive to be, a slight distinction...

Posted by: Eagle... on January 31, 2005 09:09 PM

coin operated boy
he may not be real experienced with girls
but i know he feels like a boy should feel
isnt that the point that is why i want a
coin operated boy
with his pretty coin operated voice
saying that he loves me that hes thinking of me
straight and to the point
that is why i want
a coin operated boy.

Posted by: Candy on January 31, 2005 09:13 PM

you may as well draw upon your magic...

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