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CBSNewstwit Bloviates on BloggersA lot of people are talking about this piece -- including, hysterically enough, the fact that a piece critical of the accuracy and responsibility of bloggers getting facts about bloggers wrong and then "correcting" them without taking responsibility for the error -- but I have a much simpler take. But where journalists' careers may be broken on ethics violations, bloggers are writing in the Wild West of cyberspace. There remains no code of ethics, or even an employer, to enforce any standard. First of all, let me say that most of reporting is easy. It consists primarily of jotting down what someone said and then typing it up. You don't need to verify, for example, what Karl Rove says about the "mood" of the Bush camp -- it doesn't matter if he's lying or telling the truth, the fact that an important person is making a statement is news in and of itself. A lot of reportage just consists of writing down what spokesmen and "high administration sources" think. Now, it takes some skill and time to cultivate sources, but there's no massive fact-checking going on in most stories. Investigative pieces are a different story-- but that's where the media usually makes almost all of its biggest mistakes, usually because they were too sloppy to fact-check, or that they wanted the story to be true, or that they just wanted to make the story juicier than the facts would allow. Time and time again, the mainstream media gets things flat-out wrong, or at least very distorted, by deliberately leaving out critical information that would make the audience better informed but which would hurt the "story" -- not the facts, mind you, but the "story" -- by making it more ambiguous, less emphatic, less sexy. And what does the media always say when it blows one of these stories? It's a mantra. You've heard it thousand times before: We get most of these things right. Sometimes errors slip through; that's invevitable, given tight deadlines and human fallibility. Sounds reasonable enough, I suppose. But I wonder: Why is this same lenient standard never applied to bloggers or others working in alternative media? I've made mistakes. So has Drudge. So has Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc. We've all made mistakes. But why is it that we are not given the slack the mainstream media gives itself? The mainstream media always likes to point out We get most of this stuff right. Well, quite frankly, I get most of this stuff right, myself. I went out on a limb a bit with the Bill Burkett stuff, because I smelled "story" and traffic; but it turns out, of course, that I was right. And I don't have an editor, a fact-checker, or even an intern. I've got deadlines too, guys. As they say, every profession is a conspiracy against the layman. And in this instance, the conspiracy is, as usual, the credentialed professionals protecting themselves by employing a fairly flexible standard as far as their own accuracy and credibility. But for those outside the profession -- for those not on a major-media outlet's payroll -- the standard seems to be quite a bit more strict, doesn't it? We get most of this stuff right doesn't seem to apply to us. If you guys want to judge us by a strict standard of perfect accuracy, then start judging yourselves by the same standard, and stop making excuses every time you blow a story. If no one should trust a blogger if he makes one big mistake, then no one should trust Dan Rather, either, and he should have been fired years ago. If Dan Rather has been allowed multiple second chances, I don't see why I should be so allowed, either. posted by Ace at 04:06 AM
CommentsExcellent - Now I know why you got my vote :) Posted by: max on December 10, 2004 06:35 AM
The other critical point: when bloggers make a mistake, they acknowledge it and correct it, either from their own inherent honesty or because a dozens of other blogs are pointing it out. In fact, I think bloggers hold the truth as the highest goal while MSM hold covering for each other as theirs. Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom on December 10, 2004 07:00 AM
YO! THREE CHEERS FOR ACE!!! Great piece ACE!!! The Old Media is so full totally of shit it is obvious to anyone who is not equally full of shit, as 99% of all Liberals are. Let 'em talk their stupid bullshit about blogs, they'll only continue to alienate the public as your readership grows and theirs fades. You are on the right side of history, their wave has crested just as yours is coming, and you and everyone in the New Media richly deserve it! Enjoy the ride up! Posted by: 72VIRGINS on December 10, 2004 08:28 AM
And I don't have an editor, a fact-checker, or even an intern. You should get an intern. Look what it did for Bill Clinton. Posted by: Steve L. on December 10, 2004 08:33 AM
Ace: journalism is not a profession. There are only three true profession: medicine, the law, and the clergy. Traditionally, professionals had certain duties to go along with their perks -- for instance, a lawyer or a doctor wasn't a flunky with a boss, but that also meant he didn't get regular wages; he had to take care of making his presence known and offering his services. Doctors, lawyers, clergymen were also supposed to do a certain amount of pro bono work -- that means volunteer their services for free. They had the privilege of not having to disclose confidential information, but also the duty to treat their possession of this info seriously, not like levers to be used to gain themselves even more privilege at the cost of their clients or the society they practiced in. Journalism, and writing, are not professions, they are crafts or trades. Having published a book, a column, an article, or a blog post doesn't give you the right to swan about talking about your "professional obligations" or any of that nonsense. I understand that standards have become debased and blurred in this latter age, but every time reporters -- who as you say, are nothing but secretaries taking notes who sometimes get to have their name published on the memo -- start jawing about "ethics" and how they are better than people writing for free on a personal website I just want to laugh. Anchorpersons are, if possible, even lower on the intellectual totem pole than reporters and "journalists" are glorified reporters with Journalism Degrees. I'd rather not see bloggers fall prey to the "I'm a professional" nonsense. Posted by: Andrea Harris on December 10, 2004 08:48 AM
Andrea, Not to disagree with the crux of your comments, but: In Leadership 101, we were taught the miltary officers were a professional community also. Do you think that this also qualifies? Posted by: JFH on December 10, 2004 09:34 AM
If you've ever seen an investgative report on a subject that you're an expert on (or even well-versed about), you'll never trust an investigative report again. What the MSM lacks is an effective feedback loop to refine their story. Bloggers have this via email and comments which is why a story goes from say 80% correct to 95% or higher correct. MSM Reporters move on to the next story thinking they've gotten it "mostly right" except for some trivial points. This makes them believe, falsely, that they can understand complex subjects and issues without serious study. Posted by: JFH on December 10, 2004 09:44 AM
hey ace-allah is back!! and he wants our vote in the weblog awards....apparently there is a 'blog that updates once every 2 months catagory'. Hes a shoein. Posted by: atomic on December 10, 2004 10:11 AM
With the same First Amendment protections as newspapers, blogs are increasingly gaining influence. Yea isn't awful that bloggers have the same First Amendment protections as newspapers? These people really believe that only they should be listened to. Posted by: MarkC on December 10, 2004 10:29 AM
Whoa, has anyone considered what these professionals are getting paid to adhere to standards? What's that annoying Kathie Couric making - 35 million a year? Paula Zahn pulled a fast one on CNN by telling them she'd loved to "come over" and leave Fox - exaggerating how much Fox had "offered" her to stay thereby milking CNN for extra millions. Ethics - these people have less moral authority than the very FIRST PROFESSION that noone seemed to mention ....ah, Sweet Ladies of the Evening! Posted by: Maggie on December 10, 2004 10:59 AM
Ace: "I've made mistakes. So has Drudge. So has Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc. We've all made mistakes". In interest of full disclosure, you should disclose that I pay you to make mistakes. Otherewise, your writing would be perfectly accurate. Posted by: Jake on December 10, 2004 11:06 AM
atomic: Damn. I knew Allah was enjoying being an apostate blogger too much to not blog about it. Posted by: someone on December 10, 2004 02:03 PM
Way to miss, or rather, entirely ignore my point and go off into some sort of tangent of your own, JFH. Where did I say anything against the military? By the way, calling someone "professional" has nothing to do with actually being a member of a profession, any more than calling someone "an angel" means they actually have wings and a halo. Posted by: Andrea Harris on December 10, 2004 09:37 PM
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