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December 02, 2004

What Are the Conservative Protest Anthems?

That Ukranian protest song got me thinking.

We all make fun of the painfully-earnest and stridently-liberal balladeers who fill us with so much excess stomache acid, but, hey, I'll be the one to admit it: I'm jealous.

Where's my protest anthem? Where's my catchy sing-a-long rock rebellion?

Sure, such songs don't really advance a philosophical position. They're the near-religious chants of the already-converted. But damnit, it gets kinda tedious just quoting Larry Kudlow and Deborah Orin all day. Why can't we occasionally just be able to sing our politics and maybe even groove to it?

"Preaching to the converted" is almost always said dismissively, but the converted do need a lot of preaching, too. The Prodigal Son is great and all, but how about a little attention to the faithful flock once in a while, too?

If you're on the left, you have your pick of poisons. You can hum along to Bruce Springsteen's drunken-stumble mumblings on 41 Shots. You can rant along with Public Enemy. You can, even, dig on that funky fiddling in a Dixie Chicks song.

But on the right, we've only got a few anthems. Well, if you count country music (and yes, increasingly I do, but I'm still a rock guy at heart), I guess you've got a lot bigger choice as far as musical affirmation. But keeping it strictly to rock, punk, and related genres, what the hell out there is there to crank in order to annoy the liberal neighbors?

Jesus Jones was probably as left-wing as any band, but at least they had the good sense to be unambiguously and unconflictedly celebratory about the fall of the Evil Empire. Right Here, Right Now captures the magical feeling of that moment pretty effectively.

I'm not big on abortion politics, but the Sex Pistols' Bodies is about as stridently pro-life a song as you're likely to hear this side of, say, Amy Grant.

And that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure Ted Nugent's put out some pro-conservative tracks, but I'm also quite sure I've never heard them. (I don't count Wang Dang Sweet Pootang as having much of a political import, except, perhaps, as an affirmation of heterosexual coupling.)

The only real conservative protest anthems are only such if considered metaphorically, or loosely. There aren't too many songs with lyrics which explicitly champion conservatism.

The best you can find, really -- and this is either sad or pretty cool, depending on your taste -- is the sort of dunderheaded fuck-you heavy metal screw-your-parents-and-teachers rock of the eighties. The actual specifics of the lyrics are usually pretty irrelevant to politics -- unless your politics is in fact fighting for your right to party -- but often just the attitude and a phrase in a chorus is close enough to an expression of the conservative discontent as to qualify as a bona fide political anthem.

And the song that I think is best example of this is Twisted Sister's We're Not Gonna Take It. Yeah, it's kinda silly, but that guitar and drum really kick, and the lyrics, actually, are pretty easily read as a conservative manifesto:

We've got the right to choose it
There ain't no way we'll lose it
This is our life, this is our song

We'll fight the powers that be, just
don't pick our destiny, 'cause
you don't know us, you don't belong

We're not gonna take it,
no ain't gonna take it
We're not gonna take it anymore

Oh you're so condescending
Your gall is never-ending
We don't want nothin',
not a thing from you

Your life is trite and jaded
Boring and confiscated
If that's your best,
your best won't do

We're RIGHT (Yeah!)
We're FREE (Yeah!)
We'll FIGHT (Yeah!)
You'll see! (Yeahhhhh!)

If anyone can top that -- by a rock performer, not by Darryl Whorley, Tobey Keith, or Charlie Daniels -- I'd like to know about it.

NOTE: Dee Snyder seems to say "don't pick YOUR destiny" pretty clearly, but that lyric makes no damn sense. Printed lyrics have it as "don't pick OUR destiny," which actually does make sense. I'm using the "our" version and figuring Snyder just blew the take on that particular version of the vocal track.

ANOTHER NOTE: Who knew there was such discrepency about TS lyrics? Tall Dave claims that the lyric is "boring and confUscated" (confused), not "confIscated" (stolen), and he says that Dee Snyder himself claims this.

Um, maybe. But "confiscated" works better on the anti-tax tip, and besides, dude, I just listened to it three times-- it sure sounds like "confIscated."

Dorky Window Into the Mind of An Idiot: When I write, I usually have a theme song for the piece which I play incessantly until I'm done. I've listened to Queen's Another One Bites the Dust all through the writing of a screenplay, for example; I swear, I heard it more than a thousand times in a two month period. I've also used Rocky Mountain Way and Positive Bleeding for others. Even Dean Martin's Ain't That a Kick in the Head.

This dumb song -- We're Not Gonna Take It -- was my go-to song throughout the presidential campaign. Whenever I'd really feel stuff flowing, whenever I thought we were ahead, I'd hear that cowbell-heavy drum intro at the start of the song. That was sort of my "Let's Kick Ass" soundbite in September and October.

I Meant to Mention This Update: Bush made use of a song in the 2000 campaign that thrilled me. At one appearance -- only one I know of -- in Florida on one of the last days of campaigning, if not the last day, he began a rally by playing Don't Stop (Thinking About Tomorrow) and then scrrraaaaatched that record off in favor of The Who's Won't Get Fooled Again. Now that's a Yeeeaaaaahhhhh! that puts Howard Dean's to shame.

Jeff B. is another one of those fucking government-trained brain-snoops who's always poking into my noodle and swiping all my good ideas. He writes:

I've said this before when people talk about there being no great rock anthems which espouse classically "conservative" or "right-wing" political views: the greatest one has been sitting under your noses for years, and familiarity has dulled you to its message.

It's "Won't Get Fooled Again," by The Who. Pete Townshend (a supporter of the Iraq war, no less!) has said hundreds of times that even though it was part of his weird conceptual wang-dang-doodle Lifehouse is was written as an explicit repudiation of the mindless sloganeering left-wing "Viva la Revolucion!" attitudes so prominent among the 60's generation.

Okay, I'll give you that one too. But I still give the nod to TS, because that Who song, like so many other Pete Townsend songs, is a bit "thinky" for my moron mind to grasp.

I'll also say that that song is more about skepticism of one political movement in favor of apathy and dropping out, not in favor of supporting another political movement. Lennon's Revolution says pretty much the same thing.

Another Good One: Garfield Ridge offers "The Imperial March," the Vader anthem from Empire Strikes Back

Okay, yeah, that fits. And it's great. But it doesn't rock.

Garfield Ridge likes to argue, and as evidence that the Imperial March can rock, he offers this death-metal styled version of the theme, as well as a version by No Doubt.

I don't know. Without seeing Gwen Stefani, or at least hearing her, No Doubt is basically just an even dorkier version of Oingo Boingo.

How Could I Forget? Alex offers Cheap Trick's "Thief Mr. Taxman," a song I don't know, which of course recalls George Harrison's* Taxman, which should be played whenever Steve Forbes enters the room.

* Yeah, I know, it's really "the Beatles," but they were all pretty much doing their own songs by then, so it's really George Harrison on the Beatles imprint.


posted by Ace at 11:40 PM
Comments



You gotta fight
For your right
To Paaaaartay!

No?

Well, libertarian anthem anyway.

Beat on the brat?
Classic Ramones.

Posted by: Bud Tugley on December 2, 2004 11:48 PM

I was was a big Twisted Sister fan back in the day. Minor correction to your lyrics: it's "boring and confuscated" (as in confused) not "confiscated" (as in taken away). It's a common mistake.

Yes, I know it's hard to believe a rock band knows an obscure word like "confuscated," let alone used it in a song. But I have that straight from Dee.

Posted by: TallDave on December 2, 2004 11:56 PM

Just noticed your note.

It's actually "Don't think you're destined because, you don't know us, you don't belong." You're not destined if you don't know us.

I also wanted to say this is actually a pretty good anthem. Liberals ARE trite, jaded, confuscated and condescending.

Posted by: TallDave on December 2, 2004 11:59 PM

Sorry for 3 posts in a row, but this song would be FUCKIN AWESOME to blast at a Protest Warrior rally.

Posted by: TallDave on December 3, 2004 12:01 AM

America, fuck yeah!

(someone)

Posted by: on December 3, 2004 12:06 AM

I've said this before when people talk about there being no great rock anthems which espouse classically "conservative" or "right-wing" political views: the greatest one has been sitting under your noses for years, and familiarity has dulled you to its message.

It's "Won't Get Fooled Again," by The Who. Pete Townshend (a supporter of the Iraq war, no less!) has said hundreds of times that even though it was part of his weird conceptual wang-dang-doodle Lifehouse is was written as an explicit repudiation of the mindless sloganeering left-wing "Viva la Revolucion!" attitudes so prominent among the 60's generation. ("Baba O'Riley," which was initially inspired by his jaded view of self-righteous hippies at Woodstock "claiming a cosmic revolution because they jumped the fence, imbibed bad acid, and left without paying the bands" echoes this attitude with the refrain "Teenage wasteland, it's only teenage wasteland - they're all wasted!")

And you don't have to read the lyrics metaphorically to get this out of the song, either; the sarcasm of how things have "changed" in the new "revolution" is razor-edged (and lest there be any doubt, those famous last words make the message clear):

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new "revolution"
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

As far as I'm concerned, it's the greatest openly conservative anthem in rock history - and most people don't even realize it.

Posted by: Jeff B. on December 3, 2004 12:07 AM

Wow. Jeff B., you literally rocked my world! Never did check out the lyrics of this tune before. I'd have to agree with you on this being a song based on a rational rejection of the packaged leftist sentiment of the day. And if that's a true statement, then We Don't Get Fooled Again is a conservative anthem.

Posted by: Squatch on December 3, 2004 12:13 AM

Well I can't Google any support for my claim on "confuscated." I think I read it in an interview back in the 80s. IIRC Dee thought it was funny because if your life was confiscated, you'd be dead, and people were citing that lyric (along with the video) as proof his music incited delinquency and violence, but he actually just meant their lives were boring and confused and kids wanted something exciting and easily understood like rock music ("I wann rock!" the kid at the beginning says). This was before gangsta rap made 80s heavy metal seem innocent by comparison.

Posted by: TallDave on December 3, 2004 12:17 AM

The Ramones, Dude. They should be the official Ace O'Spades HQ band!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20040311-085521-1823r.htm

Posted by: Iblis on December 3, 2004 12:22 AM

The Imperial March, by John Williams.

Alas, no lyrics, but it just *fits.*

Especially Cheney.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on December 3, 2004 12:34 AM

There's a Steppenwolf song on teaching your children to have manners and respect their elders...

Or at least I think it's Steppenwolf... off to the record collection... back later...

Posted by: Adrianne Truett on December 3, 2004 12:45 AM

For the record, Lord Cheney is the only Dark Lord of the Sith that didn't have to change his name for a "sith" name like Maul or Vader. Darth Cheney is bad-ass enough.

Posted by: Iblis on December 3, 2004 12:58 AM

Dude, Pop Culture is Filth.

But...you might try Simon Chardiet's "Left Wing Fascist". You can listen to a sample at Amazon or buy the song from WalMart. I know Chardiet as a great surf guitarist but the snippets of this song I've heard make me think it's what you're looking for. (I prefer country my own self.)

Posted by: see-dubya on December 3, 2004 01:02 AM

Ace--

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Would a *Metallica* cover of the Imperial March rock?

http://www.dmeb.net/dveb/sounds/metallic.mp3

Or how about a version by No Doubt?

http://www.dmeb.net/dveb/sounds/no_doubt.mp3

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on December 3, 2004 01:27 AM

Okay, that one version of the Imperial March isn't by Metallica, but by a Metallica cover band.

Still, good college try.

The No Doubt version is legit, however; they played it live in 1997. http://www.nodoubt.com/band/

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on December 3, 2004 01:32 AM

Well, there's always the work of Rush, at least lyrically speaking. The problem is, any sort of tendency of the songs to actually, like, y'know, ROCK, is completely undermined by the voice of Geddy Lee. "The t-rr-OUble wiyith the mAYee-puls ...." (shudder) I'd almost rather listen to Bob Fuckin' Dylan.

No, the best conservative anthem I can think of that actually, like, y'know, ROCKS, is probably "Taxman Mr. Thief" by Cheap Trick:

You work hard, you make money
There ain't no on in the world who can stop you
You work hard, you went hungry
Now the taxman is out to get you
You worked hard
And slaved and slaved for years
Break your back sweat a lot
Well, it's just not fair
He hates you, he loves money
And he'll steal your shit and think that it's funny
Like the Beatles he ain't human
Now the taxman is out to get you
You worked hard
And slaved and slaved for years
You played
And you played and played for years
Taxman, Mr. Heath
He's looking for run-in, yeah
Taxman, he's a thief
He's looking for run-in, yeah


Nothing too terribly clever about the lyrics or anything: they're just simple, to the point, and the song ROCKS, which is the most important aspect.

{For some reason, when I preview this post, none of my paragraph breaks are showing up. I hope it doesn't look like this when I hit Post ....}

Posted by: on December 3, 2004 01:52 AM

{Somehow, I lost my name and info when I previewed that last post before posting ... and sorry about the misspellings; I pasted it in from a lyrics page and didn't give it much of an edit.}

Posted by: Alex on December 3, 2004 01:56 AM

Arnold used TS in his campaign against Davis. I think Dee Snyder even came to a couple rallies to sing it.

Posted by: Kevin on December 3, 2004 02:08 AM

Well I don't know how conservative it is, but my own personal anthem has always been "Milk" by S.O.D.

Milk

I woke up, can't wait to eat
Got my cereal, boy was I beat
Opened the fridge, and to my dismay
There was no milk, my mother will pay

I want some milk, my coffee grows cold
I want some milk, I should've been told

I wish I had some god damn milk
My Cheerios just ain't the same
I wish I had some god damn milk
Too bad the milkman never came

I can't go out to the store
I'll just wait till my mother buys more
I'll just have wheat thins and beer
If I get sick, the toilet is near

Posted by: Bilious Old Turd on December 3, 2004 02:10 AM

"Garfield Ridge likes to argue"???

No I don't.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on December 3, 2004 02:17 AM

An anthem that has been running through my head everytime I've seen John Kerry since the election goes something like:

na na nana na na nana na
hey hey hey good bye...

I think it's kinda catchy and works well for liberals especially after an election

Posted by: otalps on December 3, 2004 02:17 AM

Yeh, "Taxman Mr. Thief" is a nod to George H's work, of course -- which is a great song in its own right, and should go on the list as well, even if as a general rule, he and the rest of the Beatles were a bunch of hippie wankahs. As Stereolabrat put it in a post she once wrote about who can ROCK, "Fuck those pansies. Please with their world peace and their little glasses."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/stereolabrat/2003/11/08/

Posted by: Alex on December 3, 2004 02:34 AM

My personal anti-islamofascist theme is Slayer's "Payback". I wouldn't exactly call it a conservative anthem, but it's lyrics sum up what most right-wingers feel towards Osama and pals. Tom Araya introduced it at a show in Sweden by saying "This song is basically how America feels...and America's new motto... payback's a bitch, motherfucker!"

Full lyrics (not for the easily offended): http://www.slayersaves.com/lyricsgodhatesusall.htm#13

Posted by: napalm on December 3, 2004 04:27 AM

Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall should keep the NEA and the PC publik skool establishment humming

Posted by: on December 3, 2004 05:03 AM

The Village Green Preservation Society by the Kinks.

Posted by: aaron on December 3, 2004 07:52 AM

You guys act like Merle Haggard never existed.

"The Fighting Side of Me"


I hear people talkin' bad,
About the way we have to live here in this country,
Harpin' on the wars we fight,
An' gripin' 'bout the way things oughta be.
An' I don't mind 'em switchin' sides,
An' standin' up for things they believe in.
When they're runnin' down my country, man,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
If you're runnin' down my country, man,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

I read about some squirrely guy,
Who claims, he just don't believe in fightin'.
An' I wonder just how long,
The rest of us can count on bein' free.
They love our milk an' honey,
But they preach about some other way of livin'.
When they're runnin' down my country, hoss,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
If you're runnin' down my country, man,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
If you're runnin' down my country, man,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

Posted by: Mike on December 3, 2004 09:12 AM

You're writing a screenplay? Howsabout more on this?

Posted by: jamie r. on December 3, 2004 09:17 AM

As long as reaching back to the Fab Four is allowed, how about Revolution?

You tell me that it's evolution, we-el,
We'd all love to see the plan,
You say you want a contribution, we-el,
We're all doing what we can,
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow,
And you know it's gonna be
All right
You know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right...

Regards
Ric Locke

Posted by: Ric Locke on December 3, 2004 09:34 AM

Speakin' of Merle Haggard, there's always Okie From Muskogee.

Posted by: Tongueboy on December 3, 2004 09:52 AM

While it would be like the flap over 'Pink Houses', as this band is very liberal, Ministry's 'Thieves' might be good:

Thieves, thieves and liars, murderers
Hypocrites and bastards [in laughter]

Hey thanks for nothing!
Morals in the dust
Two-faced bastards and syncophants
No trust

Thieves! liar!
Inside, outside, which side, you don’t know
My side, your side, their side, we don’t know
Which side are they? which side are they?
Which side of their mouth do you suppose that it came?
Which side are they? which side are they?
Which side of the grass is greener?
Inside, outside, which side, you don’t know
My side, your side, their side, we don’t know

You’re like a great big fucking gun,
Just waiting to get squeezed!

Breathe, forfeit erection!
Toxical injection
Geriatric fuck-fest
We still believe in lies

Thieves! liar!
Inside, outside, which side, you don’t know
My side, your side, their side, we don’t know
Who started it? who started it?
Which side are they? which side are they?
Which side of their mouth do you suppose that it came?
Which side are they? which side are they?
Which side of the grass is greener?
Inside, outside, which side, you don’t know
My side, your side, their side, no one knows

You’re like a great big hit of acid,
Waiting to be taken!

Posted by: Geoff on December 3, 2004 09:58 AM

back to the cold war and further ...

IRON MAIDEN
The Trooper

You'll take my life but I'll take yours too
You'll fire your musket but I'll run you through
So when you're waiting for the next attack
You'd better stand there's no turning back.

The bugle sounds and the charge begins
But on this battlefield no one wins
The smell of acrid smoke and horses breath
As I plunge on into certain death.

The horse he sweats with fear we break to run
The mighty roar of the Russian guns
And as we race towards the human wall
The screams of pain as my comrades fall

We hurdle bodies that lay on the ground
And the Russians fire another round
We get so near yet so far away
We won't live to fight another day.

We get so close near enough to fight
When a Russian gets me in his sights
He pulls the trigger and I feel the blow
A burst of rounds take my horse below.

And as I lay there gazing at the sky
My body's numb and my throat is dry
And as I lay forgotten and alone
Without a tear I draw my parting groan

Posted by: Greg on December 3, 2004 10:48 AM

I personally like Crush-Em by Megadeth... Has a really great Republican vibe to it

"Heads I win, Tails you lose;
Better look out cause I'm coming through,
Hold on tight, your in for a ride as we CRUSH, crush, CRUSH-EM!"

Posted by: Angus on December 3, 2004 10:57 AM

Here's a conservative song for ya. It reaffirms the right of a nation to defend itself from terrorists, celebrate's Israel's bombing of the Iraqi nuclear facility, stands up for religion and capitalism, and sneers at the elitist European world view which has always been "unsettled" with the promise of Israel as an independent state.

Plus its written by Bob Dylan (who actually has written several songs fot this category, but I'm late for work already so I'll post them later).

"Neighborhood Bully"

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.

He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.

*Note to Ace: As I think about this I think that the problem isn't that there arent conservative protest songs. There are in fact large numbers of them. The problem is that, for as long as I can remember, CONSERVATIVES DON'T PROTEST! (With the possible exception of the pro-lifers).

One of your problems here is that the Left, which will take to the streets to bitch about , well, just about anything, co-opt the songs that are out there. Hence any number of songs that might, on their face, seem to support conservative positions get identified as stressing lefty themes because of this. This only get's reinforced by the media's constant painting of the "vietnam war protesters" as great national heroes (are you listenting Mr. Kerry) and attributing whatever cool 60's song happened to come out within five years of the protest as an "anthem" for the time (Remember that NBC miniseries "The Sixties" where the most noble thing about the 60's was that some dude went from being a clean cut kid to a hippy war protester all while a soundtrack of great songs chronicled his journey over time?).

Are their lefty songs on their own accord? Sure. But are their songs that but for their co-opting could be seen as conservative as well? Absolutely.

This entry is too long already. I'll keep the conversation going in the comments if anyone wants me to elucidate on the point a little more. Otherwise I'll just go back to keeping my moronic thoughts to myself. :)

Posted by: senator philabuster on December 3, 2004 11:29 AM

Someone has already posted lyrics by the Stormtroopers Of Death, but they left out the funniest ones.
This one goes out to Michelle Malkin:
SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE
You come into this country
You can't get real jobs
Boats and boats and boats of you
Go home you fuckin' slobs
Selling hot dogs on the corner
Selling papers in the street
Pushing, pulling, digging, sweating
Where you come from must be beat

[CHORUS]
You always make us wait
You're the ones we hate
You can't communicate
Speak English Or Die

You don't know what I want
You don't know what I need
Why must I repeat myself
Can't you fuckin' read?
Nice fuckin' accents
Why can't you speak like me
What's that dot on you head,
Do you use it to see??

And this one to, well, the Middle East:
FUCK THE MIDDLE EAST
Fuck the middle east
There's too many problems
They just get in the way
We sure could live without them
They hijack our planes
They raise our oil prices
We'll kill them all and have a ball
And end their fuckin' crisis
BEIRUT, LEBANON-Won't exist once we're done
LIBYA, IRAN-We'll flush the bastards down the can
SYRIANS and SHIITES-Crush their faces with our might
Then Israel and Egypt can live in peace without these dicks

Posted by: madne0 on December 3, 2004 11:39 AM

And since it's topical...in light of the blue state/red state "division" within the country, I'd nominate "Sweet Home Alabama" as a conservative protest song because:

1) It tells Neil Young to kiss off;
2) It defends Watergate!!!
3) You don't get much Redder as a state than Alabama;
4) Hell, it even throws in a plug for the then-Governor George Wallace, who, despite his sorry civil rights past, had emerged as one of the most successful 3rd party Presidential candidates in the 20th Century, and who's law and order theme (he HATED the hippy protestors) helped Nixon formulate his "Southern Strategy".

While we are discussing Skynyrd, I'd also nominate "Gimme Back My Bullets".

Ace: Can I be the in house classic rock pundit for this site? :)

Posted by: senator philabuster on December 3, 2004 12:02 PM

Cool note on the Imperial March theme song: Back when I was a swimmer in college there was this kid from Middlebury who never lost a friggin event (including nationals) in 4 friggin years. He was a butterfly/IM specialist - two gnarly events. In any case, this dude was only like 5'4" or something, and wasn't even that big - but whenever he'd get up on the blocks at some big event, everyone else'd be all jumpin around loosening up - he'd just sit there all stoic with his hands at his hips, staring down the pool into space. His team (all 50 of them) would all sit at the far end of the pool and chant that (the imperial march). So. Effing. Intimidating. He would then proceed to romp the crap out of all comers.

Mike McCollum the kids name was and he's my friggin hero.

Damn man, that song still gives me the willies.

Posted by: fat kid on December 3, 2004 12:07 PM

Oh, and FWIW this was all New England Division III swimming, so nothing spectacular, but the *ONLY* kid who ever even came close to giving this kid a run for his money was a Canadian Olympic swimmer.

Posted by: fat kid on December 3, 2004 12:10 PM

Hank, Jr. - Country Boy Kin Survive - We say grace and we say m'am, if you ain't into that we don't give a damn

Beatles - Revolution - You want a revolution? Go somewhere else.

Posted by: jb on December 3, 2004 12:30 PM

Dammit, I'm from Alabama, and I was gonna say Sweet Home Alabama.

I hope Neil Young will remember: Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.

Posted by: jb on December 3, 2004 12:32 PM

Didn't realize Hank Jr did it "country Boy," but didn't Marshall Tucker do it first? Trying to remember...

And I won't even mention "Ballad of the Green Berets." Oops. Just did.

Mojo Nixon had a few songs that could be used.

Posted by: Chrees on December 3, 2004 01:06 PM

Haggard - Rainbow Stew

U.S. Chaos - great punk rock band from the 80s. I believe they have a website now with free downloads too. Virtually any and every one of their songs, I kid you not.

Posted by: slickdpdx on December 3, 2004 02:24 PM

Another great TS neocon theme song: "Destroyer"

"And when he strikes,
He strikes for right,
A glorious sight!"

I listened to this song approximately 1 million times when I was 14.

Posted by: TallDave on December 3, 2004 03:37 PM

"You Can't Be Too Strong" by Graham Parker.

Great pro-life song, without being preachy.

Posted by: on December 3, 2004 04:42 PM

Senator PhilABuster:

Ace: Can I be the in house classic rock pundit for this site? :)

No fucking way, punk. At the very least, you're gonna face an overwhelmingly stern Arlen Specter-like primary challenge from me and my 3000+ CD collection.

Posted by: Jeff B. on December 3, 2004 07:07 PM

Jeff B.

Only 3,000? What's the matter? Mommy cut off your allowance????

I'll put my CD collection up against yours anyday, punk. After all, how many people know that the Walrus was neither John nor Paul but actually Oliver Willis?

Posted by: senator philabuster on December 3, 2004 09:52 PM

Wow, what a pathetic, paltry selection. Too bad, because I've often wondered myself if there were more patriotic or conservative rock songs. Like Ace, I've been drifting more toward country (which I previously hated), probably for the same reason he has, because there is patriotism and other sentiments more in line with my way of thinking.

Having said that, though, I can't believe the most obvious song has been mentioned by NOBODY, even after someone mentioned the band, which should have jarred some memories. That would of course be "Don't Tread on Me" by Metallica. Too bad the band now says it is the most embarrassing song they've ever recorded (I guess they don't need any more of my money anyway). Luckily for us, they can't take it back.

Posted by: on December 4, 2004 12:11 AM

Just in case some of you youngsters aren't familiar with the song, here are the fantastic lyrics:

-----

Don't Tread On Me
Words and Music by:
James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich

Liberty or death,
What we so proudly hail
Once you provoke her,
Rattling of her tail
Never begins it,
Never, but once engaged
Never surrenders,
Showing the fangs of rage

Don't tread on me

So be it
Threaten no more
To secure peace is to prepare for war
So be it
Settle the score
Touch me again for the words
That you will hear evermore

Don't tread on me

Love it or leave it,
She with the deadly bite
Quick is the blue tongue,
Forked as the lighting strike
Shining with brightness,
Always on surveillance
The eyes, they never close,
Emblem of vigilance

Don't tread on me

So be it
Threaten no more
To secure peace is to prepare for war
So be it
Settle the score
Touch me again for the words
That you will hear evermore

Don't tread on me

So be it
Threaten no more
To secure peace is to prepare for war

Liberty or death, what we so proudly hail
Once you provoke her, rattling
of her tail

So be it
Threaten no more
To secure peace is to prepare for war
So be it
Settle the score
Touch me again for the words
That you will hear evermore

Don't tread on me

-----

As an added bonus, when I listen to this song I often think back and laugh and how horrified many of Metallica's fans were at the time. I remember a newsgroup discussion in which one guy had this deluded take on the song based on an in-denial version in his brain. He claimed the lyrics were things like, "Liberty or death, what we once so proudly hailed", that it was talking about how America HAD once been great but no longer was. Someone had to point out to him that such an interpretation was only possibly with his special imaginary version of the lyrics, which were in serious conflict with the version printed in the CD booklet and the version everyone clearly heard in the song. Oh well, it made him feel better for a while.

Rolling Stone magazine also took offense in their review of the album, much of which focused on this single song and their rant about how maybe Metallica should sign up to fight in the Gulf War before having the audacity to sing a song like this.

Ah, hippies. My fond memories of the trauma this song caused them just adds to my enjoyment of it.

Posted by: on December 4, 2004 12:22 AM

Didn't James talk about going hunting Bears in fucking SIBERIA?!? I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say he's a conservative. Pity Metallica suck cock now.
Anyways, this whole thing about "conservative songs" got me thinking, and i arrived at the stragest of conclusions. Slayer, yes, the band with all those satanic lyrics, have at least one conservative song:
SILENT SCREAM
Nightmare, the persecution
A child's dream of death.
Torment, ill forgotten
A soul that will never rest.
Guidance, it means nothing
In a world of brutal time.
Electric, circus, wild,
Deep in the infants mind.

Silent Scream
Bury the unwanted child.
Beaten and torn
Sacrifice the unborn.

Shattered, another child
Bearer of no name.
Restrained, insane games
Suffer the children condemned.
Scattered, remnants of life,
Murder a time to die.
Pain, sufferaged toyed,
Life's little fragments destroyed.

Silent Scream
Crucify the bastard son.
Beaten and torn
Sanctify lives of scorn.

Life preordained
Humanity maintained.
Extraction termination
Pain's agonizing stain.
Embryonic death,
Embedded in your brain.
Suffocation, strangulation,
Death is fucking you insane.

Nightmare, the persecution
A child's dream of death.
Torment, ill forgotten
A soul that will never rest.
Innocence withdrawn in fear.
Fires burning can you hear
Cries in the night.

That's right, a anti-abortion song by Slayer.

Posted by: madne0 on December 4, 2004 11:27 AM

Good Point. Anyways, this was where i met her. You can join for free as well www.redtricircle.com

Posted by: click here on March 12, 2005 03:54 AM

My rock anthem is on www.rockpatrol.comIt`s a song that salutes our great men and women in the military, and says thank you for taking out Uday, Qusay and Saddam Hussein.They`re no longer on the run!!!!

Posted by: jonnymike on April 27, 2005 09:53 AM
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