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Pentagon Cheers CIA Shake UpAs well they should. While the Pentagon is fighting enemy fighters and terrorists, the liberal pansies at the CIA are fighting American policy. It seems to me that the liberals at the CIA view their oath of secrecy as provisional at most-- if there's a liberal President, and they support his policies, they'll honor their oath. If they don't like the President, they pretend they had their fingers crossed the whole time. Typical of this: [Defense officials] say analysts expressed opposition to going to war with Iraq and filed overly pessimistic reports that seemed to always leak to the liberal press. One senior official told The Washington Times last year of an Iraq station chief's dire predictions on Iraq. The station chief's report leaked to the press within days of its arrival in Washington. What seemed odd to this Pentagon official was that the dispatch contained a long list of "CCs" all the way down to Navy battle group commanders at sea, meaning tens of thousands saw the report. Get rid of him. He obviously wants to be a reporter rather than a spook. He'll be much happier as an expert analyst on Aaron Brown's show. posted by Ace at 03:24 PM
CommentsAce-- The Powerline report rings very true to me. Not a lot of people in the Building seem to like the Langley fellows. Sure, we complain about *all* the intel guys, but that's just because they're bureaucratic (NSA), weird (DIA), or weirder (NRO). The CIA, however, seems filled with people whose families tree never quite seem to branch. I've got friends who work there, some I'd consider good friends, but there's obviously a very unique type of character they go after to the exclusion of others. That insularity/elitism can be helpful in the right environment (I'm thinking Special Forces), but at CIA, it seems to basically just breed snobbish know-it-all pricks who enjoy feeling important more than being important. But hey, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2004 03:37 PM
Ace, Excellent points here. While I worked in the five sided building (95-97), I never knew any spooks who were disloyal. They just didn't seem to think our use of their product was as important as their ability to generate the product. Therefore, it always seemed like their race was to get info to fill in their blanks on the message template, and send the message and forget about answering questions their product would bring up. Granted, I was a counterdrug wienie, and our requests did not involve glamorous requests for things they could give us, but every time I needed to talk to a CIA spook, they treated us as if we were beneath their horizon, even when we were going to give them money to do something. Couldn't be bothered. Loyal to no one but their own organization. Everyone I met in the Pentagon at least had some degree of loyalty to their country, their service and to doing what was right. If the rules said we couldn't do something, there were plenty of folks who would refuse to let you do something. But they sympathized with you when you could show a true need to do something to save American lives and money. One of the most important traits of the military man or woman is the ability to plead your case to your boss with enthusiasm and backbone. And when the boss makes his decision, to shut up and carry it out as if it was your own decision. Loyalty went up and down my chain of command, even in Bill Clinton's Pentagon. (My boss was a good guy who learned he couldn't play politics in that building with military folks, and he turned out to be a great guy.) Based on what I am seeing in the media today, it is time for CIA to quit playing politics, and get back to loyalty to your country, especially in the dirty jobs which they don't like to do, and for people they hate. He's the boss. No government bureaucrat has the right to obstruct legal policy directed by elected officials. 'Nuff said. Subsunk Posted by: Subsunk on November 18, 2004 04:03 PM
Ace-- Ditto everything Subsunk says. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2004 04:06 PM
IMHO CIA would benefit from some military leadership a la the NSA. I worked at NSA for a few years many years ago and I can't fathom the type of shenanigans being tolerated there that go on at CIA. P.S. CedarTroll was right. I was just a rear echelon f*** :) Posted by: BrewFan on November 18, 2004 07:27 PM
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Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?" I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove Chris
Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near Somebody else holds your heart, yeah You turn to me with your icy tears And then it's raining, feels like it's raining
"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
Media bias and senationalism are as old as, well, the media:
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