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November 18, 2004

Big Dig Blues

Son of Nixon on the most expensive public works project in history, now apparently sprining hundreds of dangerous leaks.

And part of the project is named after Rose Kennedy, just to annoy you further.

What does everyone else think about the Big Dig? I'm conflicted. On one hand, I've been bothered for some time that America doesn't seem to do big engineering projects anymore. The Japanese are busy building artificial islands and superlong under-ocean tunnels, and the best we can do is patch up our crappy highway system every other day.

I kinda like the bigness of the thing. The price tag, of course, is something else again.

And of course this thing was sold completely dishonestly, with a ridiculously dishonest "estimated" pricetag of $3 billion or so; now it's up to $15 billion, and it will probably get worse. And that pricetag is inflated by a gold-plated PC style of construction-- lots of work at night, heroic efforts to keep down noise so that no one is in the least inconvenienced by this mammoth undertaking. Yeah, that keeps Teddy K's constituents happy, but if they weren't prepared to deal with the natural consequences of a multibillion dollar construction project, honestly, perhaps we should have just given the whole thing a pass.

It goes without saying that you-- non-Massachusetts citizen you -- are paying for most of this. Your dollars, Teddy K's political credit.

What is most annoying is that this thing was sold so dishonestly, turned out to be so expensive, and could only be built with a billion-dollar citizen-comfort style of construction that I fear it just may be the last major civil engineering project we see for twenty years.

The Kennedy political legacy-- the gift that keeps on giving.


posted by Ace at 01:41 PM
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John F.Kerry did his share of pitching for Federal dollars, too, and got campaign contributions from important contractors who were working on the Dig.

His local nick was Cash N' Kerry.

Posted by: lauraw on November 18, 2004 01:52 PM

Wait a minute, I thought the most expensive public works project in history *WAS* the Kennedy legacy?

Cheers,
Dave

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2004 02:02 PM

The big advantage for the Big Dig (speaking as a Kennedy), is that unlike a bridge, you can't drive off a tunnel.

Posted by: Master of None on November 18, 2004 02:12 PM

Compared to middle-class entitlements like Social Securitiy or Medicare, big-time infrastructure projects cost nothing. Plus, they can be really cool. Sometimes almost as cool as a AC-130.

The problem is that our pre-eminent cool infrastructure project, the so-called "Space Shuttle" has been such a disaster. Every blast-off costs $300 million. Whats the point of having a re-usable spacecraft if it costs $300 million? Plus, it kills a lot of people. You know the Russian space program never kills anyone. I wouldnt buy a Russian can-opener but they can still put men in space.

Posted by: wally on November 18, 2004 02:13 PM

thanks for the link ace. been too busy playing Halo2 to buzz around the blogosphere lately.

Posted by: sonofnixon on November 18, 2004 02:46 PM

Although this project obviously suffered from political manipulation and corruption, a lot of folks don't understand just how expensive tunneling really is. It can also be fraught with risk due to inherent uncertainties in geotechnical engineering.

In most cases, one is probably better off building above-ground structures, even if they are somewhat elaborate.

Posted by: Nathan S. on November 18, 2004 03:55 PM

Thanks, Nate.

Now get back to some sneering derision and outrage, dammit.

Posted by: kelly on November 18, 2004 04:36 PM

As someone who lived through it for some time as a resident of South Boston, I'm kind of pissed that it disrupted my commute for so long and caused cracks in the plaster of my 135 year old row-house (when you remove that much dirt, things shift). I'm pissed that a bunch of mobster union guys were allowed to run the project, which had more "no show" jobs than you'll ever see on the Sopranos. I'm pissed that they named part of it after a Kennedy. I'm pissed that it cost so much more than it should have. I'm pissed that the very attractive bidge component was named "Zakim". Now I'm pissed that they messed it up and need to fix it, with more union mob guys benefiting.

That said, it works nicely. It's pretty damned cool and has helped traffic. It's made a very nice improvement in the area of the old elevated highway downtown. The Ted Williams tunnel to Logan airport rules (and was built properly).

Posted by: SteveL on November 18, 2004 04:45 PM

Leaks aside, Mass residents should insist on a section being named after Teddy Kennedy.

OK, so let Teddy's section flood. Call it the Teddy Kennedy Chapaquiddick Memorial Tunnel.

Posted by: Cedarford on November 18, 2004 07:22 PM

Ace -

I don't see this debacle as stifling future civic projects at all. A few weeks ago I saw on PBS (hey, don't judge. I'm unemployed and the soaps bore me) a show about similar projects in the Pacific Northwest that are using Boston as their model. Since Oregon and Washington state aren't exactly populated by small-government Reaganites, the trend seems to be leaning towards the "spend... Spend... SPEND!" philosophy of urbun renewal.

And it isn't just blue country wackiness! Here in my hometown of Louisville, KY we have a million dollar fountain located in the middle of the Ohio River. A "gift" to the city from one of our wealthiest legacy families, it costs the city (i.e. taxpayers) a million dollars a year to maintain. A MILLION A YEAR! Some gift. Lately we've only run the fountain three times a year, Christmas, New Year, and to open the Kentucky Derby festival.

Posted by: Kadnine on November 19, 2004 01:47 PM

Yeah, if the King Country Democrats manage to scrounge up another 262 "missing" ballots during the recount,I would expect the Upper Left Washington to embark on some sort of huge project in the next few years. They;ve been threatening us with rebuilding a number of viaducts and bridges, and taxing us for thebillions they will spend on them.Seattle is the only city in the world that is paying the bill for three sports stadiums, one of which it blew up.

But in the large project dept, note that the Bay Area of California is building a new east half of the Bay Bridge. That's about the size of things these days-- rebuilding what they did 70 years ago.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega on November 19, 2004 06:56 PM

Best link on the Big Dig for sheer "someone's-not-taking-his-medications" amusement value!

http://www.revelation13.net/bigdig.html

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