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November 17, 2004
Great Moments in Socialized MedicineToothache Nearly Cost Me My Life A teenager nearly died after being turned away by the NHS eight times for a simple tooth extraction. Thanks to GregS, the Internet Story Elf. posted by Ace at 05:17 PM
CommentsI had a wisdom tooth 'taken out' by the NHS. I was put to sleep and awoke with a mouthfull of blood and pain (no anasthetic if you get put to sleep). For years, I was plagued by painful tooth fragments that kept surfacing from where the tooth used to be. In the US, I had another problem wisdom tooth. They took X-Rays and it turns out that the tooth the NHS had 'taken out' had merely had the crown pulled off with the root still in place. My US dentist thought it was hilarious. I ended up having 3 wisdom teeth taken out, one surgically, I had the tooth fragments taken out of my gums surgically, and awoke in no pain since I got numbed up by the time I woke up. Ironic part is that they pretty much cost the same out of pocket at the time, even with the 'free' NHS (that I had already paid taxes for) Posted by: AG on November 17, 2004 05:27 PM
PS Now you know why British teeth are so bad, the dentists are butchers! Posted by: AG on November 17, 2004 05:27 PM
Believe it or not, 12 years ago or so, the British Health Care System (perhaps British Army docs)operated on a British soldier to "straighten" his penis which "leaned" to one side. It becamce infected and had to be removed. I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP! GEEK ALERT! - See if you can find on the net. Posted by: 72VIRGINS on November 17, 2004 05:35 PM
You get what you pay for. Posted by: Iblis on November 17, 2004 05:40 PM
Actually, when the government is providing the service, you get 1/3 of what you actuallypaid for, and shitty service to boot. Is it just me, or does that link not work? Posted by: lauraw on November 17, 2004 05:53 PM
lauraw is right, the URL needs an = sign at the end to work, Damn Internet! Posted by: Greg Schreiber on November 17, 2004 06:10 PM
I tried to fix it. I added the "=" but for me at least it still doesn't work. Posted by: ace on November 17, 2004 06:22 PM
Link works for me. Posted by: Elric on November 17, 2004 06:49 PM
If Europeans don't want to work then they can suffer. If Europeans embrace socia1ism then they can suffer. If Europeans cannot fight terror then they can suffer. If Europeans make heroes out of the likes of Arafat, Chirac and Annan then they can suffer. If Europeans actively plot against us they should be MADE to suffer - a lot! Posted by: Philip on November 17, 2004 07:08 PM
I just want to tell you good luck, we're all counting on you. Posted by: Dear Johns on November 17, 2004 08:07 PM
Back when I was living there, they were having problems of a slightly different sort -- because of some major issues in defining different types of dental problems at the NHS, it was about 12 quid for getting your tooth pulled, while getting a filling put in would set you back about fifty. Plus, you could get your teeth pulled by these guys who would come by in a bus; for a filling, you'd have to wait at least a month for an appointment. Easier just to be toothless! Posted by: Adrianne Truett on November 17, 2004 08:49 PM
"The hospital! What is it?" "It's a big building that you can't get into without submitting a Form 27B-6 filled out in triplicate and signed by the proper authorities. But that's not important right now." Posted by: Paul Zrimsek on November 17, 2004 09:56 PM
I just want to tell you good luck, we're all counting on you. Posted by: Dear Johns on November 17, 2004 10:38 PM
Surely, you must be joking?! I'm serious...and don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: cheshirecat on November 17, 2004 11:31 PM
Plus, you could get your teeth pulled by these guys who would come by in a bus; for a filling, you'd have to wait at least a month for an appointment. Easier just to be toothless! Sweeney Todd, the Demon Bus-Riding Barber of Fleet Street. Posted by: cheshirecat on November 17, 2004 11:32 PM
Classic. Thanks for sharing. Posted by: TallDave on November 17, 2004 11:54 PM
Wow, the thread comments are EVEN BETTER. Someone more ambitious than me needs to start a website devoted to Great Moments in Socialized Medicine. I bet there are THOUSANDS of documentable cases. Posted by: TallDave on November 17, 2004 11:58 PM
I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank TallDave for the honors he has bestowed on we, the thread commenters. At long last, we are recognized for the contributions we have so diligently labored over. I'm sure none of us realized back at 05:27 PM when AG posted his first thread comment, that it would lead us down this tumultous path to where we are these many minutes later. So, thank you TallDave. Thank you for the respect, consideration and, dare I say, love you have shown we, the Great Moments in Socialized Medicine thread commenters. And...I just want to tell you good luck, we're all counting on you. Posted by: Dear Johns on November 18, 2004 01:25 AM
Okay now, some of you commenters are less than serious. Really, are you trying to make me piss my pants or what. Jus' hang loose blooood. She goonna catch up on the` rebound a de medcide. Posted by: W on November 18, 2004 06:47 AM
And win just one for the Zipper. I don't know where I'll be then Doc, he said. But I won't smell too good, that's for sure. Posted by: barbula on November 18, 2004 07:38 AM
Excuse me, I speak Jive. Posted by: lauraw on November 18, 2004 10:08 AM
I don't think we have the whole story here. I need to know everything right from the beginning. Hmmm. . . first the earth cooled. Then the dinosaurs came. But they got too big and fat, and all died and turned into oil. Then the Arabs came with their Mercedes Benzs. Then Prince Charles started getting socialized health care. . . Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2004 10:47 AM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. Posted by: lauraw on November 18, 2004 11:15 AM
Enough about your tooth problems, AG. Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked in the head by an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does, that never happens. Posted by: lauraw on November 18, 2004 11:18 AM
Who started this?? I can't stop...help! Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor? Posted by: lauraw on November 18, 2004 11:21 AM
lauraw : Iron boot in the head, schmiron boot in the head. Have you ever seen a grown man naked? I have, every day, for hours on end until I get fed up of standing in front of the mirror naked. Remember, there's only one river, only one sea, it flows through you, it flows through me, and unfortunately through that bastard that butchered my tooth. Posted by: AG on November 18, 2004 12:01 PM
Ace-- What's up with the filter? I tried to post another Airplane quote, no swear words or nuthin, and I got "comment could not be submitted due to questionable content." WTF? Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2004 12:46 PM
Methinks the objectionable word was a word that describes the medical procedure that ends the life of a fetus. Your filter associates that with a word that rhymes with "ape." Me no likey. . . Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2004 12:47 PM
No, AG, but I do like to watch gladiator movies. Posted by: lauraw on November 18, 2004 01:53 PM
I'm just waiting for a female reader to take off her top and shake it right in front of the camera. Posted by: ace on November 18, 2004 03:05 PM
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Funniest thing I've read about the Virginia mess. Back when they were hustling the referendum through the assembly both Senators, Warner and Kaine, advised them to go slow and play by the rules. Louise Lucas said she respected them but didn't need advice from the "cuck chair" in the corner. The gerrymandering was overturned and Louise is heading for the big house. Edward G. Robinson voice "where's your cuck now?" I posted his post on twitter and it's gotten 25K views so far. Thanks, Smell the Glove Chris
Forgotten 80s Mystery Click That Sums Up the Democrat Communist Party Today
Something is wrong as I hold you near Somebody else holds your heart, yeah You turn to me with your icy tears And then it's raining, feels like it's raining
"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
Media bias and senationalism are as old as, well, the media:
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