Common sense tells us that when someone makes a statement followed by the phrase, "I'm serious", one should at least consider the notion that they may, in fact, be serious.

That being said, consider the reports that there are dems/liberals seeking psychological treatment based on the election results. Perhaps we should accept a person stating they are having psychological difficulties at face value. If someones says, "I think I'm going nuts", maybe we should accept that they may, in fact, be going nuts.

I would not be surprised if someone gets killed. The Secret Service better be watching this. I fear for The President.

If someone does get killed, then the madness will have just begun.

I was raised in a red state. I now make my living in a blue state.. Lemme tell you, these asshats aint ready for that kind of nasty.

Sure they talk like they do. -- yet talkers by nature are never ready.. When its time for us to slice like hammers, you won't hear a fuckin' sound comin from me.

Of course, you know that if (let's hope) or when (please, no!) one of the Kool-aid-swilling Kos Kidz finally snaps and takes a potshot at Bush or firebombs some Red State Republican HQ, the tinfoil hat crowd will refuse to look inward at their own frothing, spittle-flecked echo chamber of hatred, choosing instead to declare it an EEEEvil neocon Rethug plot to crush dissent and curtail their civil liberties.

I expect Mossad will also somehow be implicated, natch.

A while back someone pointed out, with a feeling of bemusement, that the libs keep acting like they own all the guns.

I too was raised in a red state, but live in a blue state, and I know exactly what streetGOP means.

The Lee Harvey Oswalds, John Hinkleys, and Unibombers of the Left are so very rare that they pose no real threat today. 99.999999999% of the Left are gutless cowards, this is what makes them Liberals. It makes them feel powerful to talk that way, as if words equated to deeds. Because the election proved to them how powerless they really are, they've ratched up the BS because it is their substitute for actions. We do need to fear their support for REALLY violent groups like terrorists, or their obstructionism in government, but their talk of personal violence is nothing more than childish tough guy posing to make themselves "feel" better. They don't even have the guts to face the truth, let alone a real violent situation, except in their hallucinatory dreamworlds and their incoherent babbling.

I have a dog that is friendly, but in my heart I know he is dangerous and I keep him close. He's dangerous because he is a very confident animal and he is not afraid of people.

This trait makes him quiet and decisive. If he doesn't like the cut of your jib, and has decided to bite you, he will up and bite. No signal, no barking or growling to warn you off ahead of time. No need. He made up his mind.

These threats from the Left seem to me to be impotent yips from people who are trying to strike fear into others because they are actually afraid of the opposition..."Don't push me any more, I just MIGHT!!"
And the terms "I'm serious," "Really really" and "I am totally dead-fucking serious here" tend to make be believe the person LESS.

IMAO

72VIRGINS,

I think you are very wrong. I live and work at Vail Resorts where 6 years ago enviro-terrorists burnt down Two Elk Lodge and three lifts. They were very lucky they didn't kill anyone that time because we have people living in our on mountain buildings to prevent just such occurrences. In my opinion that kind of hatered and violence is only a step away from physically harming another person. I've seen, close up, these protesters and they don't see any difference between us and animals, with that kinda of moral ambiguity how long before one of them steps over the line?

Bill Maher better be careful what he may be instigating on his site. Before the election, I felt quite uneasy when I heard his Freudian slip:

MSNBC 'Scarborough Country' for Sept. 21, 2004
Excerpt from transcript to Tuesday's show
Updated: 11:47 a.m. ET Sept. 22, 2004
Guests: Howard Wolfson, Mort Zuckerman, Bob Zelnick, Bob Kohn, Dan Barlett, Bill Maher

"BILL MAHR [sic], HOST, HBO “REAL TIME”: You know, what‘s going to do? When he‘s 85. [Re Dan Rather] He‘s going to be interviewing starlets on “Access Hollywood”? That hardly seems the place to put him out to pasture. No, but I think what‘s interesting about that story is that, one, people say it‘s the liberal media and I always say the media is not liberal, they are lazy and often stupid and this is an example of that. I don‘t think they made this mistake because they were SO ANXIOUS TO KILL JOHN--TO KILL GEORGE BUSH and get John Kerry elected that they just couldn‘t stop themselves. I just think they were just incompetent. And also, I noticed that nobody from the Bush camp is really saying that the factual reporting of the document is wrong. The typing is off and we do know that they‘re forgeries but what‘s seemed a shame is that the message in there, which is essentially true, gets lost in the story about whether Dan Rather should stay or go..."
[Capitalization in text mine]

I've been worried about such things since the last election. They are so worried about Nazis that they have become what they fear most.

How far would they go? I think the number of them that would actually put rubber to the road on anything that they spout off is a very very few. Unless they out numbered the opposition, at the particular point in time by a factor of 10.

Or the crazed luntic fringe with a sniper rifle? Wouldn't he be an outcast just for knowing of such forbidden knowledge?

The results of this election have shown that a particular segment of the left has become unhinged. The true haters in the Democratic party were not challenged by the candidates or the media. This encouraged them toward greater and greater violence - slashing tires, storming Republican offices, etc.

Is there enough hatred of the president out there for some nutjob to attempt the unthinkable? We, unfortunately, know the answer. The question is whether the leadership of the Democrat party will continue in their irresponsible encouragement of that hatred through their silence on this issue.

If someone does die or get seriously hurt (which I fervently hope does not happen), that death can be laid at the feet of Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, John Edwards, John Kerry and all the rest of those who saw the hatred within their own party and did nothing to quell it. Quite the opposite in fact - they let it go because it worked for them.

The guys at Powerline are right - this cannot end well. Just look at how they are responding to the election - more anger, cries of illegitimacy, bigotry. This party just grows more and more unhealthy.

May I ask a question of those who feel that the left's death threats are just rhetoric? It seems that some are saying that such threats should be dismissed out of hand because surely those on the left are just venting spleen.

My question is, if you were at an airport and you heard someone say they had a bomb, would you or would you not report it to the authorities? Would you or would you not treat it as deadly serious, even if the person followed it with, "Ha ha, just kidding"?

Excuse me for having to point out that threats are not protected free speech and they certainly do not qualify as humor.

If the airport analogy doesn't work for you, what if you received a threat to your life or that of your spouse or child? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say, "Oh, no need to worry, that's just all hot air"?

I say each and every threat needs to be treated as though the person were serious. Enough is enough. If such threats to life and limb aren't acceptable at airports and can result in an immediate arrest, then the same zero tolerance policy should exist in regards to the threats of the leftist moonbats.

Powerline is right. One can stick one's head in the sand and pretend that nothing is going on and that nothing will come of the threats, but such a course of action would be folly. The left are not going to self-police, they are not going to control themselves anymore than they are moderating or controlling their rhetoric now. They are determined to incite or commit violence and it will lead to bloodshed.

If we are not going to give the benefit of the doubt to Islamofascists who have threatened us, why should we extend the benefit of the doubt to leftists and liberals who are making threats? Please explain to me where the logic is in that.

The bad news is that there are so many frothing at the mouth, bull goose loonies. Some have guns.
The good news is that the mere ownership of a gun makes one no more armed than my living in the same county where there is a grand piano makes me a concert pianist.
I used to shoot competition with rifles and handguns. I was never good enough to win the top-tier national matches but I could, on a good day, hold my own in local matches. To stay even remotely competitive I had to practice at least three days a week plus endless hours of dry-firing. I'm too old to run with the young dogs these days but I still spend a day or so a week at the range, being a married man I get some peace and quiet that way.
I've never once seen a wild-eyed Lefty with a callous on his trigger finger.
If it comes to a real fight it would mean more parking spaces available in front of Leftist hangouts and short lines at the Whole Food Store.

How long can you play with fire before you get burned?

The problem with crazy people is that their actions are impossible to predict. Hence, we can't say that they WON'T do anything because they're talking, and we can't say they WON'T do anything because they're being quiet. But I don't think that the Lefties in question are actually insane, they're just morons yakking without realizing how they're flirting with disaster. This is what I mean...

One thing's for sure; if violence escalates unchecked in a large group, then someone ends up getting hurt or killed. We've only seen that happen a few thousand times over the course of history, haven't we? With that said, I think that shooting off one's mouth online is not the same as being physically immersed in an angry crowd. The former tends to be a release of pent-up frustration, while the latter can cause a person to get caught up in the moment and start acting without thought of consequence. In other words, I don't think the vast majority of these posting geeks are anything to worry about unless they decide to have a rally...which means they'd have to leave Mom's basement and possibly miss their lunchtime (and what are the chances of that?).

This tough talk from the Left is just talk -- vicious, hateful talk, to be sure, but does anyone really get THAT alarmed at posts from a political party that's historically been known as a group of spineless, big mouth weenies? I know I don't, and I'm sure these violence-lusting crybabies just LOVE the thought that some conservatives are taken aback at their level of rhetoric.

Really, what both sides have to be cautious about is the rogue nutjob who feeds into this type of talk and then takes it far more seriously than it's perhaps meant. The Internet is infamous for masking the real possibility that the person you're reading and/or posting with is a Certifiable Weirdo who thinks he God's Vigilante. And, if this type of posting becomes more commonplace, chances increase that a Nut is going to get exposed to it and end up taking action.

And then we're going to hear all about how it's no one's fault because the guy was a Nut and it's Free Speech and all. Forget the fact that the guy was incited by careless, thoughtless, harmful, dangerous Free Speech. These Lefties would never take responsibility for it...but since when do Lefties take responsibility for ANYTHING?

Later,
bbeck

Brass has a point, I was in L.A. last summer when ELF was burning SUVs sitting in the driveways of people's homes, as well as blowing up Hummer dealerships so I believe they certainly are capable of violence. I wouldn't doubt we'll soon hear of attacks on Bushies in Blue states. And, remember, it only takes one nutjob out there to get convinced he's "sacrificing" himself for the liberal cause.

While logic rarely works on lefties, it wouldnt hurt to remind them that if W were assassinated then Cheney would be president. That should scare them back into line :)

The violence is already starting in Minnesota.

[url]http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/states/minnesota/counties/dakota/10140329.htm?1c[/url]

Jimmy - and if that didn't stop them, eventually Rumsfeld would be president and then they would be seriously boned.

Wow--I was going to kick in 2 cents but bbeck did it for me:

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Really, what both sides have to be cautious about is the rogue nutjob who feeds into this type of talk and then takes it far more seriously than it's perhaps meant. The Internet is infamous for masking the real possibility that the person you're reading and/or posting with is a Certifiable Weirdo who thinks he God's Vigilante.
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I'll throw the 2 in anyway. I think it's Kurt "Dresden" Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions that proposes the idea that all you need for bad things to happen is the right mix of bad ideas and bad chemicals. The bad chemicals, organic or otherwise, are already out there. Putting out the bad ideas is putting a match to gasoline.

The only consolation I have regarding this is--it's a bulletin board. One thing I should've emphasized more in the piece you linked the other day, Ace, is that public forums like boards, usenet, etc., inevitably attract the crazies. Any sane participants are quickly turned off by the madness and driven out. So while the comments by the Maherheads are horrendous, odds are they aren't truly typical. And odds are they're all talk.

The danger is what you said, what bbeck said, what most people here have said--what if the "wrong guy" reads them and says, "Heyyyyy, there's an idea?" You know, you only need one John Hinckley type to run across it.

My attempts to read the board myself this morning have been met with failure. Anyone know if the folks who run it had the good sense to take that garbage down? Not that they've displayed much good sense before now, but one could hope.

ELF is the very fringe of the fringe...not representative of the vast majority of liberals, who are in fact law abiding people.

To tar them all with the same brush is like saying all civil rights activists were as likely to commit violence as the Black Panthers.

I saw a bumper sticker with "Republicans are a perverted cult" this morning. It seems the left are extending their beliefs that they are right no matter what. Disagreement is due to mental illness, stupidity or some cult-ishness.

This is why I know I am on the right side of things. I don't recall people looking for the death of Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy. I don't recall people talking about killing liberals simply because they disagree with their votes. Remember the pledges not to piss and moan if Kerry won despite 4 years of the left undermining the president at every turn.

Why is it always up to the Republicans to be the grown ups?

Assuming this doesn't turn into real violence, I don't really care because none of this can help them. This type of behaviour, whining, sour gra_pes, conspiracy mindedness will keep those Bush voting centrists on the right, and possibly drive Kerry voting centrists over also.

At the end of the day, they put up a turd of a candidate a lost, rather than blame Bush, Diebold, or red-neck stupidity, they should simply look to their own candidate and those that voted in the primaries.

Laura, I'm sorry but until and UNLESS the "vast majority of liberals" tell the world IN ON UNCERTAIN TERMS that these people DO NOT belong in their party- and that means they don't want ANSWER's funraising or MOVEON's voter-registration drives, either- than I and those like me will continue to assume that teh majority of mainstream liberals at least don't MIND what their luantic fringe do.

Lauraw,

I'm not painting the whole left as violent sociopaths. I'm saying that there is already a group of some size that is willing to embrace violence for their cause. Even the 'sane' liberals get a little frothy when speaking of Bush's environmental record, so what would these fringe groups be willing to do to put an end to "the destruction of the land"?

Don't they realize that we are the party that LOVES GUNS???? (and knows how to use them)

'I don't want to go down that road. Why do so many of these lunatics long for just that?'--Ace

Because this is their response to the 'meaninglessness' of their pathetic little lives.In the end all the consumer 'toys',and diversions,just don't buy the satisfaction needed to endure.In the end material things remain just things.
So belief in something becomes increasingly neccessary for 'internal'survival.These sick and depraved effetes have become so 'sophisticated'that belief in valued things no longer is possible.So they now believe in the EVIL of GWB.Without that belief they would be forced to understand the emptiness of their own lives.
This they can never do; they are indeed VERY dangerous until the self-imposed madness fades into desolation,despair,and apathy which is their true existential state.
Faster Please !!!

...should be "in NO uncertain terms"...

Proofreading is my friend, it really is...

Ace,

Would I be a dick to say I said eco-terrorism and leftist violence are going to explode here 3 days ago? I would? Good. Because I am a dick.

Seriously though, this election and the realization of the Left's demise has sent more than d'Onofrio over the edge.

Quitely train, stock up, and prepare, because this could get really ugly. Not armageddon ugly, but more Summer of 68 ugly. Although the Right has the guns, we also have things to lose. Stick with self-defense and train, train, train.

We all have a duty to defend our president, our constitution, and our way of life.

/paranoid survivalist rant

"Short lines at the Whole Foods store" was pretty darn funny, Peter. That sounds like the title of a book you don't want to be caught reading.

I agree we have little to fear from most of these guys. I'm not looking for mob violence. What I do fear is more Muhammad-Malvo teams, more Weather Underground bombs, and more cowards who would never do that themselves but might give them aid and comfort. We could drift back toward the late sixties---

BUT. If you guys remember Dirty Harry, that kinda lawless crap the movie was criticizing was allowed to go down because of the permissive attitude of the late sixties and early seventies. We don't have that today. The Secret Service is investigating things and the cops are allowed to do their job. I'm worried things will get ugly but not out of control.

The hard-left is made up mostly of dinks. They may rage, but they rage impotently. It's all talk Ace.

Where was the post-election violence? Nothing happened. They sure talked tough, but they did nothing.

:) I was thinkin my next gun purchase was going to be a 1911 (already have an HK USP.45) - but now I'm thinkin more along the lines of a 12 guage. Heh. Funny how it even concerns me seeing as how I live in the Republican bastion of Orange County (Laguna Beach is a separate entity). I guess if all the wacko's from LA came down here, we might have problems... Feh.

I read about a guy over on Betsy's Blog that wants to fight anyone from a Red state. Yeah, fight. As in he say's he wants to kick the shit out of a Red stater. I offered him a couple a good 'ol boys I know who would love to.

Keep helping these guys build strawmen, Ace. Nice work. Not that Peter, fat kid or Frank seem to need any help.

Yeah, get your guns ready - all us scary liberals are coming to get you. Boo!

Looks as though some nutjobs are building a case to make the left the next front in the war on terror.

Batman,

So I'm to understand that if I convert this site into a message board for discussing the murder of inconvenient political figures on the left, then that's just jake with you, right?

The hard-left is made up mostly of dinks. They may rage, but they rage impotently. It's all talk Ace.

Don't be ridiculous. The sort of person who would kill for fame is obviously a 1 in a million type deal. Yes, 99.9% of these assholes want to do nothing except jerk off over fantasies of political murder, but they're giving moral aid and comfort to that one potential crazy who wants to do harm to a figure on the right.

In case you never heard, there have been several people who have attempted to get into the White House with guns.

A liberal is by definition a pathetic whining coward who will strenuously avoid any situation that involves the risk of bodily harm. In the liberal mind, there is nothing worth dying for, therefore there is nothing worth fighting for. THe worst that one could expect from this crowd is petty vandalism. If they actually engage in something more...well, we can only hope.

So I'm to understand that if I convert this site into a message board for discussing the murder of inconvenient political figures on the left, then that's just jake with you, right?

You keep putting words in my mouth, Ace.

I'm not talking about what anyone else is doing. The question is what kind of shit are you stirring up?

Easy on the casual implications that us Idahoans are all gun-packin', survivalists, there, Ace.

Oh, wait a minute, go right ahead...

To Brass: I lived through the riots of the 60's when the Left really was a threat. And knowning mutitudes of them, I can tell you that the fundemental essence of the Liberal is that of a gutless coward. Burning down a ski lodge and other acts of cowardly vandalism are a mere nusiance. But even when Liberals do manage to employ hordes of drug-addicted, alcoholic, homeless as demonstrators, at their drugged-up very worst they are nothing the police can't handle and there is no reason to fear them. They are NOT riding a huge, social tidal-wave as they once did and they know it, which is why they talk such ridiculous trash. Though they may change drastically when they become aligned with REALLY dangerous groups, that's not happening right now and this election has only Discouraged them, not Encouraged them. And they're not going to Kill Bush anymore than they're going to go to Canada - SO CHILL!!!

When did Batman wuss out and become a liberal? Last I knew, he was a crime-fighting vigilante by night and a multi-millionaire corporate playboy by day. Doesn't sound like any of the liberals I know...

Like Excitable Andy Sullivan, he moved left when Bush proposed the Gay Marriage Amendment.

Damn that Robin for having such a sweet ass.

Like Excitable Andy Sullivan, he moved left when Bush proposed the Gay Marriage Amendment.

Damn that Robin for having such a sweet ass.

Ooh, gay jokes, gay jokes, gay jokes! (said in the voice of Clarence Bodiker)

You got a real metaphorical circle jerk going on here - but you might have some experience with real-life circle-jerks too. Seems to be the case with most homophobes.

Ace,

Just to return everything to the pop culture gutter, when you wrote about Robin having a fine ass, I hadn't scrolled up to see what you were talking about and immediately thought of the "Robin" from "Real World San Diego"

She really did have a nice ass (amongst other virtues). Not that the Boy Wonder was anything to scoff at, but *scoff, scoff*

Help! I'm a homophobe and I can't go out of the house!

Whatta stupid word.

Dork.

Batman,

Oh, please. For one thing, my joke wasn't about you, it was about the actual Batman.

For another thing, if that joke is homophobic, then Excitable Andy is a homophobe, because the New Republic featured (under his editorship, when he turned it into a gay magazine for a while) a cover with Batman and Robin expressing their gay love for each other.

For a last thing: Lighten up, Francis.

For crying out loud!

Honestly, "Batman," if you want to fight crime in this particular cyber Gotham City, you really ought to get thicker skin, or even just plain skin.

You're diminishing your little slur "homophobe." You wouldn't call your buddy Jon Stewart a homophobe for making his ten thousandth gay joke -- all comics use them -- but you've got your little cudgel at the ready for any rightleaning comic who makes one, doncha?

Yeah, probably should have just called it good with the bodiker paraphrase.

Apologies for slinging "homophobe" around.

And dude, I've told you before - I don't get the good cable stations! :-) No Comedy Central for me. My exposure to Jon Stewart is limited to the net videos of his 'crossfire' appearance.

And I was defending the "actual Batman" not myself. :-)

For a last thing: Lighten up, Francis.

BTW, its "The Batman". Any of you guys call me "Batman", and I'll kill you.

Is Batman a vaginaphobe? (not The Batman)

Well I don't know about fake-liberal-Batman, but wrt The Real Batman, gay rumors have been swirling since 1954's Seduction of the Innocent.

I'm not talking about what anyone else is doing. The question is what kind of shit are you stirring up.

What kind of shit ACE is stirring up?

Look, I've been defending liberals on the who-started-it score for over a week now (my take: it's more important who ENDS it), but not this time. I'm out of breath on this one.

You're being a self-righteous jackass, Batman, and in so doing you're minimizing the seriousness of the problem. Put the blame where it belongs: On the board participants who called for Republican blood in the streets. Not Ace.

Oh, and p.s.--the Robin joke was funny. Get over it.

People:

Take names, remember faces, report threats to the authorities. It's that simple. If leftists want to incite violence or commit acts of violence, bring them to justice through every legal means at our disposal. I am not aware that what is illegal for everyone else is now suddenly legal for the left.

As I said before, if someone threatened you or your family, you would certainly report it to the police. What's the big deal about also reporting threats on the internet regarding our President or conservatives in general? More than once we have seen a potential crime averted by diligent people who report threats, even those that are on the internet. If your local police are not the correct authorities to report a threat to, they will surely have information on what agency is the proper authority for reporting.

I'm sick of people saying this is all just blowing steam on the part of the left. It is NOT protected free speech when making threats. That is not covered under the Constitution any more than walking into a crowded theater and shouting "Fire! Fire!"

The left is definitely inciting violence; all our reaction has to be is to report and use every means to prevent it. Treat every threat seriously. Enough said. There is no room for argument. It may be an overabundance of caution, but tough. That's the way things have to be. Conservatives did not start this, but we certainly have the law who can put a stop to it.

Screw "Seduction of the Innocent" - The Real Batman is only interested in the cat-like limbs of Selina Kyle (and maybe an occasional rash from Poison Ivy)

More of the same...
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/47785163.html

I don't know about "Seduction of the Innocent", but what's the point of dressing up in tights and such if you don't really have any special super-human powers. Unless of course you happen to like dressing up in tights and such. I'm just saying...

Brian:

It'd be hilarious if someone showed up and did the "Ok, you win" move from the bar scene in Rob Roy.

> I don't want to go down that road. Why do so
> many of these lunatics long for just that?

You only can take away so much from a man before he strikes back. Most people don't have the courage or honesty to really look within themselves for mistakes and weaknesses. The human instinct is to lash out at what causes you pain, or at least, what you think is the source of the pain.

The "Ownership Society" is the antithesis of World Socialims. Bush's Social Security reform and School Choice vouchers, plus what the Internet is doing to the Left's control of Media and Acadamia, is the next stage of capitalism and will destroy the last redoubts of their faith.

Religion is just a set of rules people use to order their lives and make daily decisions. The Torah, Shari'a, English Common Law, Marxism - all the same thing in that respect; just a nexus of Law & Economics. To some extent they can co-exist as long only their edges overlapped, and as along as the "true believers" could form communities where they could live their comfortable day-to-day existences.

As you said, this is about values. How people will live, educate their children, plan for retirement, procreate, have sex. Social Security Privatization will create wealth and opportunity for many, but it will also destroy a way of life. Don't you know what people are capable of when their way of life is at stake? Whole tribes have committed mass suicide, or if they had the power, genocide of the threating civilization. Even democracies are capable of it. Just look at what the Union did to the Confederacy, or Rome to Carthage.

I am confident that America's political system is flexible enough to handle this without descending into Civil War II (the first was horrible enough). We will not descend into chaos, too many people have too much to lose.

That being said, some nutjob WILL cross the line. It's inevitable. It will be a young, male, probably university educated, with an intended future in acadamia. He'll either be a scholar of or believer in Islam or Marxism. He won't be able to handle the stress of full-on capitalism that modern America (personified by Bush) is threatening him with, and will snap. An FBI psych-profiler will probably be able to give you a more specific description. You and I should just keep our eyes open.

PS, Ace - I tried to spell "World Socialims" correctly, but your contet filter didn't like "cial...is" (without the elipses).

From Thomas Barnett's weblog:

It's hard for some to admit but not me: the solution set on Iraq will likely be accepting successes where we can find them and letting those success stories become attractors in the same way that violence today in Iraq seems to attract more of those people willing to engage in it at all cost. The Kurds in the north can succeed, as they've proven in the past, and the Shiites in the south appear to see the opportunity their numbers provide them, so expect them to accommodate themselves to the possibilities of life beyond Saddam. But don't expect anything similar from the Iraqi Sunnis any time soon. Their downward spiral of diminished expectations is common for any ruling elite that's suffered an absolute loss of power, and it won't end until they exhaust themselves in violence to the point where they accept the notion that their only redemption will come through reinvention.

http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/archives2/001115.html

Thanks to the Supreme Court the Left was able to pretend it was still in the Majority during the Reagan years. Clinton also continued the illusion, despite it actual centrism. Now the veil is swept from their eyes, and they don't like what they see.

My hope is that the Left will have a much lower violence threshold than the Sunni Arabs.

Ah, a Seduction of the Innocent reference...flashbacks of 7th grade English Social Studies papers.

Hey, speaking of The Yellow Kid, can we start referring to MSM as Yellow Journalists again. In fact, from now on, I am replacing MSM with YJ.

I agree with ACE - in that if you make talk of political or religious killing socially acceptable within a community, you increase the probabilities of killing or attempted killings happening. It's not the issue of the vast majority within that community being harmless and simply blowing off steam - it's the issue of their creating acceptance for someone else who is willing to act with violence - since they see their actions will have support.

1. Once anti-abortionists started calling for "murdering the murderers of wee cute babies", it was only a matter of time before abortion clinics were bombed and doctors shot.

2. Once mullahs started saying it was cool to kill infidels, and the Islamic crowds were allowed to chant that without societal reproach, killing infidels was bound to happen - even though "most followers of the Religion of Peace were just venting their frustrations."

Responsible Americans should never tolerate others expressing wishes or outsight threats against other Americans. Saying "I hope some assassin kills Hillary" is as bad as saying "I hope Bush is shot" and even if it isn't a direct threat, you should talk to the police, that person's employer, or the ISP. Direct threats are worse, and your civic responsibility is to notify authorities, even if it is a threat directed at someone you dislike, like MIchael Moore.

One more for Cedarford's list: DJ Alan Berg got a lot of threats from Klansmen. One day in 1984 three Nazi nuts blew him away in his driveway in Denver.

Oh, and let's not forget Theo van Gogh.

Serious threats should be taken seriously.

Hmm, I explain why I'm not really all that concerned about the Left rising in arms here and batman, excuse me, The Batman, says I'm inciting some kind of Jihad.
Violence requires more than simply the will to use it, it requires skill with the tools of violence. Without such skills engaging in violence is simply an elaborate form of suicide.

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