Vaya con Gaia. Brilliant.

Thanks for the link. Damn, now the pressure is on to keep posting.

Max

The Times must have missed my New Yorker wife.

Former producer for ABC News in Washington, former press aide to Walter Mondale, friend of David Dinkens, did some work Clinton in his first term, etc

She voted for Bush. Before that she voted for Dole. She's lost all hope in the Democratic party.

I prefer Vaya con Miguel Moore. For Gaia sake, take him with you!

:)

My brother's more conservative than even I. He was living in Manhattan for several years, and just moved to Silicon Valley this summer for a new job.

All of his coworkers at a major internet company (rhymes with "Wahoo") were practically in mourning yesterday. Tears streaming down faces during Kerry's concession speech.

My brother's girlfriend, still in Manhattan, isn't speaking to him. It'll pass, but she's taking this election real personally, as if my brother betrayed her by voting for Bush.

Folks, it's just politics. As important as I think the election was, at the end of the day, sometimes your guy wins, sometimes he loses. You move on. I did, twice, in 1992 and 1996. You get over it, learn what lessons you can, and run again.

I wonder if the reason these people are taking it so hard has to do with the whole "the personal is political" aspect to the Left?

My guy loses, oh well, that sucks-- The O.C. is on tonight.

Their guy loses, and it's like a big chunk of their reason for living is gone. The sky is falling, cats & dogs, living together. That whole thing.

Not all right in the head, these folks.

Cheers,
Dave

I would think the statement about not knowing anyone who voted for Bush is meant to imply that somehow the right managed to conjure up out of thin air 59 million votes. These people are truly paranoid and if anyone was going to conjure votes it would have been the left. Arrogance, stupidity disguised as intellect, and blindness to anything but their view, this is what little Liberals are made of.

You know, I don't know what they're waiting for. There's a beautiful Commie Paradise Island just a few miles off Miami. Blue water, blue sky, sea turtles, and palm trees. Sounds nice, eh?

Vaya con Fidel!

I always get "Vaya con carne" and "Chili con Dios" mixed up.

I know I'm not the first to fisk Thomas Friedman, but it's a privilege to stand at the barricades with Ace against the New York Times.

See

http://paragraphfarmer.blogspot.com/2004/11/straw-men-crossing.html

Thanks Ace,

I havent laughed like that for, well I dont know when. I live in a blue midwestern state but live in a predominantly red portion thereof. Does this free me from being a retarded dumbass who's mind is controlled by Karl Rove or am I still an uneducated hillbilly who can't cut it in the big city. I'm really worried, I thought I lived here because I like it here (having lived in other more urban settings). Turns out I'm just too stupid to live in New York City, fuck man I have to wonder now how I even managed to get a degree in Accounting. And I mean I havent been to church since I was like 15 years old, but I guess if my betters in New York say so I must be a fundamentalist hatemonger bent on destroying New York because of my gung-ho attitude about the feelings of European elites. Man am I glad I read that article, a little self examination never hurt anyone

I work around staunch leftist Democrats, and it's amazing how blind they are to the opposition. Whenever they talk about a specific Republican or conservative they ran into, it's as if they're talking about Bigfoot or a UFO:

"What did he look like? Did you get a picture?"

"He's a hunter and owns guns?! What planet did he come from?"

They've been extremely depressed and/or pissed-off the last few days, but not to the extent that they have any interest in learning about the opposition or why their policies don't fly with a majority of the people. The rest of us are a bunch of evil, dishonest, homophobic morons. I've heard them say things like "How could anyone vote for Bush? He's a liar." and "Well, they'll all regret it when he brings back the draft." And these are otherwise intelligent people, but the astuteness of their political analysis is summed up in "Bush is a liar." It never even occurs to them that perhaps one of the reasons why they keep losing elections is that their side shelters themselves from any alternative opinions. You can't argue against a position that you refuse to believe exists.

I generally keep my political views a secret at work so I don't have to spend all day arguing with these people. But they're so out of touch that they would probably benefit from me speaking up once in awhile, though they might try to find a way to get rid of me instead.

They don't know anyone who voted for Bush because they are out of touch with America. What does that they say about there reporting?

And when we legislate our Evangelical agenda--they'll say "Bible? What's that?"

Dang, now I feel bad about voting for Bush. I never knew that doing so would make these sophisticates who are, let's face it, our betters, cry like a bunch of little girls.

I don't know why the libs hate us so much. I mean, if you took us all away, the only employers in the country would be lawyers, and Hollywood. The lawyers would have no rich companies to sue, and with all the unemployment, no one would be able to afford going to the movies.

Let's hope they stay in the clouds of denial forever. They have hated so much that something in their minds got broke. They will never be right. Many will never vote again (especially if they leave for utopia!).

/pun intended

When I first saw this post I thought it had to be a hoax. Then I went to the Times web site and there it was. Seriously, what is with these people? I was coming down from the post election high and thinking maybe it was time to bridge the divide, we're all one country, etc. Then I read that article. My contempt for East Coast elitism is rekindled.

Those people in the article? They know a Republican. He's me and the other 16% of NYC who voted for Bush. We just keep my mouth shut around them. It's not worth it. They're just miserable, hateful people most of the time.

But there's also some New Yorkers who think they don't know any Republicans, but are Ok with it once they find out. Manhattan isn't miserable all the time.

I'm from New York and yeah, I'm better than everybody else. Let's be honest.

But I'm also better than the dorks in that article.

I'm the best, that's all.

Living and working in the heart of Europe (Switzerland), I have yet to discuss politics w/anyone (numbers in the dozens) who is pro-Bush. No one can believe an American would vote for him.

A Swiss headline read "Can 60 million Americans be so stupid?". Europeans simply have a hard time understanding America's support for Bush and his policies. Happily, they will have four extra years to figure it out.

I understand Europe was similarly mystified and enraged by our fondness for Ronald Reagan...well, just those that we were shielding from Soviet boots.