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October 26, 2004

Shock: Andrew Sullivan Endorses Kerry For President

Ahem. That's what's known in the blogging trade as an "ironic drudge siren."

The Shrill Shill actually writes:

The endorsement I once never thought I'd write.

Yeah, buddy, you were the last one to know. "I can't believe Andrew Sullivan just endorsed John Kerry!" screamed no one at all.

Meanwhile, George Bush makes a play for the "independent South Park Republican Schwarzenegger-McCain-Guiliani Eagle vote" by saying he doesn't necessarily oppose civil unions, just gay marriage, and disagrees with his party's platform on that score.

I'm mildly against civil unions, but not strongly against them. What I'm strongly against is the liberal courts overturning democracy in order to force them on a public they don't consider sufficiently enlightened to, you know, vote on major issues of the day.

But it looks like Bush's statement comes too late for Andrew "The FMA is my own personal Abu Ghraib" Sullivan. Wouldn't have appeased him anyway-- he wants full gay marriage imposed by liberal courts and he'll accept no substitute.

I have to say, though, that I find this late-game statement by Bush worrying. It's not necessarily a new position, but it is an announcement of a hitherto undeclared position. And I can't say I think such fourth-quarter adjustments are cause for optimism.

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That's like a headline of "SNOW FOUND TO BE COLD!!!"

Posted by: Sharp as a Marble on October 26, 2004 02:00 PM

Andrew Sullivan is single-handedly responsible for my coining a new catch phrase: "Who the fuck cares what Andrew Sullivan thinks?"

Eg.

Wife: "Honey, did you remember to take out the trash?"

Me: "Who the fuck cares what Andrew Sullivan thinks?"

Wife: "What? I asked if you took out the trash. Who the fuck is Andrew Sullivan?"

Me: "Aha!"

Feel free to try it on for size.

Posted by: Jeff G on October 26, 2004 02:02 PM

Watching Sully is like watching a child's transparent manipulations, & being amazed the tyke really thinks you can't see thru him.

So he sat on the fence during wartime, desperately trying to see which way the wind was blowing before making a move. What an embarrassment. Seriously, I could respect him if he'd come out for Kerry months ago, because that would at least show some integrity & conviction, but this little October stunt finishes him off as a credible thinker. Proceed to delink.

Posted by: jeff on October 26, 2004 02:27 PM

Sully could be imploding like Rosie O'Donnell over "It's all about me and my gayness". People once listened to them, but now you're worried they'll be whipping out a sex toy and wailing on it. I don't give a shit about Andy's HIV trevails and his quest for true love anymore than I did about Rosies right to adopt 'cause she doesn't want nasty spermies in her making kids the old fashion way. Both were listened to in the past because they could express themselves well in other venues - not dwell 24/7 on gay rights.

I personally think gays and singles should have civil union rights. Hard to say it isn't an inequality problem caused by law when a married women and a gay woman doing the same job get wildly dissimilar benefits from their employer. Or that a gay couple living in the same house don't have the right of spousal succession if one dies, or a single person is assigned a lesser value in a wrongful death lawsuit based on them not having the plethora of lifetime benefits the lawyer claims are due to a married person and family - and denied by wrongful death.

And, one "gay" person that made a deserved comeback from the "It's all about my gayness" was Ellen Degeneres. She learned to shut up after it caused her comedy show to be canned, now she is back as a top talk show host. Good for her. She seems to be a nice gal!

Posted by: Cedarford on October 26, 2004 02:35 PM

Personally, I think civil unions are a good idea, and I'm one of the "theocrats" that Sullivan has been trashing for the past few months. What bothers me, apart from his failed attempts to make his anti-Bush sentiments about everything but gay marriage, is his contemptible bigotry against those of faith.

Unless, of course, those people of faith say something bad about Bush (Pat Robertson).

Sullivan, a pioneer of the new media, chose to rely on old media reports of how "terrible" things were in Iraq. There are a number of good Iraq blogs that admit the struggles, but put the problems in context of a larger positive narrative. Sullivan didn't want to hear any of that, as it reflected well on Bush. So he looked entirely to the liberal stalwarts of the major networks and found a voice that preached to his preconceived notions.

I agree with jeff. Sullivan's machinations were so transparent that it's hard to believe he was once thought of as a solid independent voice. Sullivan is an old media thinker with a blog. I predict the blog will last six months after the election and end when Sullivan is welcomed back into the loving arms of the New York Times.

Posted by: Slubgob on October 26, 2004 02:47 PM

This also explains the George Soros ads. His August pledge drive must have tanked so bad, he feels he has nothing to lose.

I've, um, modified his link on my site.

Posted by: jeff on October 26, 2004 02:49 PM

Perfect: I can't believe Andrew Sullivan just endorsed John Kerry!" screamed no one at all.

Amen.

"Self-absorbed" comes to mind. But this election is not about Andrew Sullivan. Which would surprise him.

Posted by: m on October 26, 2004 02:59 PM

I prefer the old adage: "just ignore him, he'll go away" or "don't go away mad, just go away".

Posted by: Ron on October 26, 2004 03:06 PM

It's not a new position if he only said states should be free to have civil unions if they choose. He's always said that. If he personally supports civil unions, that'd be news.

Also, Eugene Volokh demonstrates that his position, stated on the onset of his support, is consistent with the FMA. The FMA, contrary to Sullivan, does allow for civil unions insituted by legislature or the people directly. It just doesn't allow for courts to read civil unions into the Constitution (like in Vermont).

Posted by: Palooka on October 26, 2004 03:06 PM

Add:
The Three Laws of Thermodynamics ruled unconstitutional, perpetual motion machine inventors rejoice.

Posted by: Al on October 26, 2004 03:16 PM

Now faced with his own irrelavence, Sully retreats to P-Town to console himself with a giant bottle of K-Y and...

Posted by: Iblis on October 26, 2004 03:19 PM

Other than Sully himself, exactly how many voters can we expect to decide to vote for Kerry because of this news?


Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: Brian B on October 26, 2004 03:21 PM

Here are some other things I find just as shocking as AS endorsing Kerry:

* Yassar Arafat's hatred for Jews
* Failure of NY Yankee's fans to rally around and support Red Sox in World Series
* NY Times fabricated lies against W
* The French acting like cheese eating surrender monkey's
* Corruption in the UN's oil for food program
* Human rights violations in China, North Korea, Iran
* Osama Bin Laden's continued hatred of the US even after we've announced that we're leaving Saudi Arabia
* NBA players making babies out of wedlock.
* OJ's inability to find Ron and Nicole's real killer even after all these years.
* The temperature getting colder in Chicago the closer we get to Christmas
* the high mortality rate of centegenarians due to natural causes.
* My employer continuing to withdraw money from each of my paychecks to give to the IRS.

Posted by: WindyCity on October 26, 2004 03:24 PM

What a lot of this commentary misses is that Sullivan was actually a very eloquent voice in favor of the Iraq war early on. So why the change? Simple: He became persona non grata in the communities that matter to him in NYC. No more Upper West Side parties; no more hot dates with cute guys. To someone as obviously insecure as Sullivan, this had to be utterly intolerable.

Everything he's written since then has been the direct result of his attempt to once again become accepted in his preferred social circles. Hence the focus on gay marriage, his attempt to find a way to bash Bush on the war without sounding like too huge a hypocrite, and his support for Kerry.

Of course, regardless of the reasons behind his descent into moonbattery, the end result is the same: He's become an insufferable, unreadable twit.

Posted by: Hermit Dave on October 26, 2004 04:08 PM

I'm surprised you even give a shit.

Posted by: gibs on October 26, 2004 04:27 PM

I don't really. It's just something I've been following for a while. I made the call long ago, now we see the full flip-over.

Plus, it's just fun to make fun of him. Some things just feel right.

Posted by: ace on October 26, 2004 05:00 PM

Jeezus, ace. Why do you feel the need to print such shocking news? You trying to give me a heart attack or something?

Posted by: Sean M. on October 26, 2004 07:15 PM

I'm mildly against civil unions, but not strongly against them. What I'm strongly against is the liberal courts overturning democracy in order to force them on a public they don't consider sufficiently enlightened to, you know, vote on major issues of the day.

Absolutely goddamn right. I could give a hoot about gay marriage, you know? Okay, I actually do care, but I recognize my personal attitudes shouldn't influence existing law. NEW laws yet to be made? Sure. EXISTING law? No. We don't have laws at all if we go that road.

Which should give the Dems pause, as all their cute lawyer tricks go out the window when the law of the gun takes over. Who has all the guns?

Posted by: Steve Johnson on October 27, 2004 07:43 PM
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