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October 13, 2004

That Racist Danzinger Cartoon Explained (?)

A lot of people don't seem to get the racist Jeff Danziger cartoon. It's not funny whether you get it or not, but here's the attempted joke. I think.

Condi Rice is being parodied as, I think, Butterfly McQueen from Gone With the Wind. This character -- a black maid/slave, I think, but I've never seen the film, so don't hold me to that -- says something like "I knows all about birthin' babies" early in the film. Then, when she's actually called upon to deliver a baby, she famously cries out, "I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies." (Thanks to Phil for clarifying this.)

So, the cartoon is saying that Condi Rice is a black slave, and putting derogatory "black slang" into her mouth which is accepted in GWTW (I guess) but which is obviously considered insulting now.

And they have her, ahem, nursing aluminum tubes, making the "joke," I guess, that while before the war she knew all about about aluminum tubes, now she doesn't, and confesses ignorance.

That's what we call a real knee-slapper round Ace o' Spades parts.

Basically, I think Danziger just hates Condi Rice and wants to find an acceptable way of calling her, well, the n-word.

I don't think he succeeded.

If you want to call someone a "ni***r," Danziger, why not have the guts to just come out and say it?

You effete douchebag.

See? Not this passive aggressive bullshit.

Meanwhile, Hugh McBryde says he recieved the following response to his complaint about the cartoon. I don't know where the cartoon appeared on the NYT, if anywhere; they don't publish Danziger in the paper, at least, though it may be linked on the website somewhere.

Mr. McBryde:
It is of considerable importance to us. I haven't gotten back to you again because I didn't have all the facts. I still don't, but I can see that I should have given you an interim report.

Obviously the cartoon is racist and deeply offensive. Whether that means that Danziger himself is racist I don't know and don't much care. My only real concern is whether and to what extent this cartoon had any relation to The New York Times. (It certainly was not published in the newspaper.) As soon as I can answer that question for you, I will. In the meantime, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Best, Bill Borders

I can't vouch that's a genuine response, and I can't really even vouch for Mr. McBryde, but I guess I provisionally trust that this is real.

Look, the cartoon is offensive. There's no getting around that.

Apologies: I used the c-word -- the bad four-letter c-word, not the fun Norm MacDonald one -- in this post originally. I think this is the second or third time I've resorted to that word on this blog, and the second or third time I've quickly edited it out.

It's one of the harshest curses out there, and it's not even a playful one. I shouldn't have used it, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone by it.

posted by Ace at 04:49 PM

Comments

Just curious: why does 'nigger' get stars but 'cunt' does not?

Posted by: Karol on October 13, 2004 04:58 PM

I'm stunned that Mr. Movie Expert hasn't seen GWTW. I saw it relatively late in life, but I figured you would have seen it before.

You have the anecdote mostly right (although I couldn't tell you the character's name.) One part you missed, is that earlier in the movie she talks about how much she knows about "birthin' babies". Only when the time comes to deliver (so to speak), does she confess her memorable line.

That's why the cartoon references both times, the before and after.

And yes, it is despicable racist demagoguery.

Posted by: Phil on October 13, 2004 04:59 PM

Karol,

Well, okay. First of all, I just changed "cunt" to "douchebag." I meant cunt, and I'd rather call him a cunt, but that's one of the few real cursewords left. You can call someone a motherfucker all day and not get a raised eyebrow.

I decided I shouldn't leave it in there. (Nothing to do with you, necessarily.) Everytime I use that word, I regret it.

Next: Why stars for "N***er" and not "C*nt"? Because some fucking douchebag content-filter already has me banned for "Violence/Racism/Hate." Besides, if you use that word, even clearly to accuse someone else of using it or meaning it, then the fucking left is going to pretend that you're just sitting on your site saying the n-word about black people.

Posted by: ace on October 13, 2004 05:09 PM

Phil,

Thanks. The "joke" doesn't even make sense without understanding that.

It is my plan to go to the grave without ever seeing GWTW or, for that matter, the Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: ace on October 13, 2004 05:32 PM

Ace,

Just to let you know, as a woman, I was not offended by your usage of the c-word. I normally abhor the word and rarely can I countenance its employment. However, in this case, it worked. That being said, I understand your descion to edit the word for the sake of civility. Don't worry, I will continue to be amused by you!

Posted by: Bohemian Conservative on October 13, 2004 05:59 PM

I think dropping random C-bomb's is a pretty fun game. Then again, I don't have may friends...

...

Maybe there's a connection I'm just not seeing.

LOL

Posted by: fat kid on October 13, 2004 06:08 PM

I liked GWTW far more than I expected I would. I'll never see Titanic, though.

Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer on October 13, 2004 06:27 PM

There are so many words in the English language that offer the chance to denounce an opponents beliefs. Though he has been gone from public life for more than forty years, Churchill was able to quickly put someone in their place without the use of the word you cite.

Posted by: JThomas Lowry on October 13, 2004 06:49 PM

How do folk such as Danzinger walk around all day without having their ass handed to them?

As for GWTW, how dare you Joe R...

Using GWTW and Titanic in the same conversation.

Posted by: jmflynny on October 13, 2004 07:23 PM

10/13/04

Dr. Rice is a sophisticated, well educated, intelligent, well informed, professional, confident, assertive, successful, conservative, republican, black, woman. According to the preconceived beliefs of the “Democratic” Party and the liberal left, she can not and does not exist. Some one like Dr. Rice terrifies them because they are afraid she will run for president some day. They feel compelled to continually oppose her, and denigrate her accomplishments. Who do they have at a national level to compare with her? Al Sharpton? Jesse Jackson? Hillary Clinton? Dr. Rice is one person who cannot be intimidated or ignored, but who can be counted on to powerfully support President Bush.

Lonnie Kendall

Posted by: Lonnie Kendall on October 13, 2004 07:31 PM

Mr. Lowry, do you really come to this site to hear Ace talk like Churchill?

Reminds me of something Charles Krauthammer said the other night on Special Report, when they were talking about the Democrats criticizing the "botched" Afghan elections: "It's like getting a dog to sing opera and complaining because the last aria was off-key."

No offense intended Ace - I really do come here for the cool barking sounds.

Posted by: The Black Republican on October 13, 2004 08:54 PM

The cartoon has vanished from the official hosting sites but Ramblings Journal –- a site which says it’s “The politically incorrect ramblings of a black conservative” -- saved a copy and has some comments.

Check it out here.

http://mhking.mu.nu/

BTW, if you haven't already you might want to think about adding his site to your blogrolls.

Posted by: Lastango on October 14, 2004 01:09 AM

This Danziger character has just demonstrated that he's not fit to lick the boots of someone who is fit to lick the boots of Condi Rice. I've never seen GWTW either, so I didn't get the reference (something about it is reminiscent of Porgy and Bess).

As for the dreaded c-word, I'm sure this is more a US English thing. It's still maximally taboo in the UK, but you hear it all the time. I remember a highly amusing interlude when a fellow Englishman and I regaled a guy from San Francisco with all the ways in which you could use the word. He swears like a trooper and even he was shocked. I use it all the time, albeit sotto voce for the most part.

Posted by: on October 14, 2004 02:40 AM

Apology accepted.

Posted by: sonofnixon on October 14, 2004 04:14 PM

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The murder thriller Deathtrap with Michael Caine is free on YouTube
I like it. The guy who wrote Sleuth wrote this. It does have a bit of a gay vibe, but it's good.
BTW Sleuth is also available, illegally, on YouTube, but it's such a terrible low quality (240 p!) that I turned it off.

Funny article by Emily Yoffe:
She points out the media is continuing to gaslight us, and then notes that the White House is calling those who want Biden to step down the "Bed-Wetter Brigade."

But you don't have to be a doctor, or even a Google doctor like most of us, to conclude that these explanations sound like cover-ups. The people around Biden have also decided to turn the tables on the growing number of commentators and others who have concluded, based on recent observation, that Biden is unfit to have a second term. They have diagnosed those calling for Biden to withdraw from the 2024 presidential race as being "bed-wetters." It does seem to be a bad idea to inject the notion of incontinence into this discussion.

"Bed-wetters"... isn't that a political internet insult from like 1998? Isn't that what the left called people worried or offended by Clinton's perjuries and alternative methods of cigar storage?
Even this gang's insults are 25 years past their prime.

Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 Joe Biden can authorize Seal Team Six to assassinate his political opponent but only between 10am and 4pm

I'll be taking off July 4 and most of July 5. I have a lot of open threads prepared. On Friday, I will post news, if it's big news. (I guess if there's really big news on the Fourth, I'll post that too.)
But I won't search for news if it's a slow news day, which is what it probably will be. The hardest work is on slow news days and I'm not going to put the work on Friday for that. I'll just post open threads of posts with thin content (a link and a quote, basically). I need a little time off. It's Biden Time (TM). I'm going to go for a bike-fall.
If any cobs want to post on Friday (or on July 4), then please do. But don't think you have to or anything. I will be around to cover the site.

Larry O'Connor: Weird that Morning Joe was absent from his own show yesterday after his on-air quarrel with his whorewife Mika
Does this mean anything? I sure hope not. I sure want the best for these nice kids. Joe Scarborough rocks! He plays guitar and has a poofy pompadour

Workin 10 to 4
Man, this job is really easy
Eat ice cream and shit my pants
Hey, my wife looks kinda sleazy

Posted by: Joe "Dolly" Biden

"C'mon, man! You just don't...you don't see how much we've done! How more employment for soft-shell monkey sandwich in a giggly-hole...and the little girls who can now smell like banana pudding because of my border mind control..." Posted by: ZOD

The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.

-- Alvin Toffler

Observation: We on the right, and I definitely include myself here, made a tactical error in setting the expectations for Joe Biden so low that only a truly cognitively challenged man could fail to clear them. We set the victory conditions for Biden as just requiring that he form some coherent sentences, some of the time.
We screwed up.
But he still failed to beat the low, low expectations we set. We spotted him thirty points and he still threw six interceptions for touchdowns.

A commenter (sorry, I forget the name) pointed this out: if Biden had "a cold," why did he go to the Waffle House and touch people? Remember a "season of death," Joe? Once again we see the left's highly-contingent rules of "quarantine:" You must quarantine yourselves while they get haircuts, super-luxe French dinners, and chicken and waffles. Not to mention burning down businesses and killing cops.

Greg Gutfeld: They lied, they all lied
Good and necessary mockery and gloating. Liars should be mocked and despised.

Trump: The problem with Biden is not his age, he's the "most incompetent president in the history of our country"
Via John Sexton with more arguing among Democrats about whether to support Joe or flush him

Bari Weiss: "They Knew."

Rarely are so many lies dispelled in a single moment. Rarely are so many people exposed as liars and sycophants. Last night's debate was a watershed on both counts. The debate was not just a catastrophe for President Biden. And boy--oy--was it ever. But it was more than that. It was a catastrophe for an entire class of experts, journalists, and pundits, who have, since 2020, insisted that Biden was sharp as a tack, on top of his game, basically doing handstands while peppering his staff with tough questions about care for migrant children and aid to Ukraine. Anyone who committed the sin of using their own eyes on the 46th president was accused, variously, of being Trumpers; MAGA cult members who don't want American democracy to survive; ageists; or just dummies easily duped by "disinformation," "misinformation," "fake news," and, most recently, "cheapfakes."

Hat tip David Strom at Hot Air. Strom adds:

We need to remind people that they have been lied to. Forty-eight million people watched the debate according to the ratings, and they saw what they saw: that the media lied. We need to focus on that.

Indeed. Do not let them evade responsibility for their own remorseless, conscienceless, unceasing lying by claiming they were mere "dupes" of the White House.

Time's cover: "Panic."

Heritage puts out the call for researchers to help with issues regarding replacing a candidate -- to challenge the Democrats' maneuverings, I assume

The Scrolletter: Who's really running the White House? Because we now know for certain it isn't Turnip Truck Joe.

Never one for modesty, Obama also--as David Samuels observed in Tablet last August --made sure to drop O.J. Simpson If I Did It-style hints about how a "hypothetical" surrogate presidency might work: "That Obama might enjoy serving as a third-term president in all but name, running the government from his iPhone, was a thought expressed in public by Obama himself, both before and after he left office. "I used to say if I can make an arrangement where I had a stand-in or front man or front woman, and they had an earpiece in, and I was just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff, and I could sort of deliver the lines while someone was doing all the talking and ceremony," he told Steven Colbert in 2015, "I'd be fine with that because I found the work fascinating." Even with all these clues, the Washington press corps--fresh off their years of broadcasting fantasies about secret communications links between Trump Tower and the Kremlin--seemed unable to imagine, let alone report on, Obama's role in government."

Thanks to Dave Reaboi again

Unedited: Biden's post-debate interview from the Waffle House
"I had a sore throat." Thanks to former guest blogger @NiceDeb, now at AmGreatness

Sargon: The Cargo Cult Mentality and the Destruction of Formerly Billion-Dollar Intellectual Properties
Thanks to Dave Reaboi

Holy Crap, Ex-CNN Thumb Chris Cillizza attacks the White House for lying: "They knew."

They knew.
The big takeaway from last night is that the Biden White House knew the president was clearly a step (or three) slower.
And they spent months attacking ANYONE who suggested age was an issue and should be discussed openly.
Democrats should be FURIOUS.

So we've got a Blame Game going on. The media, which ALSO knew, is pretending they were totally DUPED by the White House, rather than being knowing co-conspirators in the psyop, which is what they were. But they're not going to admit that, so they're going to claim that Joe Biden is such a remarkable persuader that he just fooled them all.
If you were fooled by something so unbelievable: What is the point of you?
Note he's also pretending the Democrat party didn't know. The only bad actors here, this new psyop goes, were Joe Biden and his inner circle. All other Democrats and their media infiltrators were blameless, faultless, uncorrupted, pure.