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October 07, 2004

Mainstream Media Raises Expectations on Jobs Reports

To be fair, the Bush Administration has raised expectations itself. Still, I find it curious that the media likes to play up expectations of a good jobs report, and yet doesn't seem eager to report actual good jobs reports. They had a lot to say about the lackluster summer jobs numbers, and yet had little remark about the big numbers posted in late winter and early spring.

Interesting points, with a cute little button:

The precise relationship between pocketbook issues and presidential elections is impossible to pin down, but that does not stop economists from trying. A well-known model developed by Yale economist Ray Fair, based largely on economic growth and inflation figures, projects that Bush will win 59 percent of the two-party vote.

A similar model unveiled this week by Patrick Anderson of Anderson Economic Group added a variable for unemployment and still concluded that Bush would win, but only by 0.2 to 1 percent.

“(Bush) can say the economy is growing, income is growing, the economy is creating jobs, unemployment is falling — all these things are true,” Anderson said. “And with those conditions, the model says the incumbent should be re-elected.”

Of course it is entirely possible that the economy will not be the decisive factor in the first presidential election of the post 9/11 era.

“I think Iraq trumps all of it,” said Diffley. He called Iraq the most important “swing state” of all.


posted by Ace at 10:46 AM
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They'd have to be at least three states. And I think one of them gets to volunteer to host the national radioactive waste disposal center.

Posted by: Al on October 7, 2004 03:50 PM

Presidents and the Economy

It seems that there are only two issues in the present Presidential campaign: Iraq and the economy. This implies that most voters seem to subscribe to the thesis that the president has a significant impact on the economy.

To a large extent this belief has persisted for many years. I believe that it was heightened by the Clinton years in the White House. He made the economy the primary focus of his 1992 campaign and the economy did very well during his two terms so it seems natural to believe that he had something significant to do with it.

First, let's try to go back over some of the administrations of the 20th century to quantify what actually happened.


In 1913, during the Wilson administration, the Federal Reserve was created. Financial panic and depressions had been regular occurrences before this.

Unfortunately, during its first decades, the Federal Reserve did not know what it was doing. In 1923 Coolidge became president and was dedicated to the concept of laissez-faire which is French for "butting out". In 1924 the stock market became popular and started a spectacular rise. It was like the dot-com thing but on a larger scale. People traded up equities with little rational basis. From May 1928 to September 1929, the average prices of stocks rose
40 percent. This was despite the fact that many of what we would now regard as economic indicators were flashing "red".

In August 1929 a recession began. For the next two months GDP fell at an annualized rate of 20%.

The stock market crash started on October 24.
The Fed lowered the Fed funds rate from 6% to 4%
and added to the money supply during the first few months but then did little more until 1932. It essentially stood on the sidelines trusting that the markets were undergoing a normal correction process. The Great Depression got worse until 1933. GNP fell 31%, unemployment was almost 24%, equities lost 82% of their value or about $1.2 trillion in today's dollars, the money supply was reduced by 31%, there were over 10,000 bank failures.

FDR was elected in 1932. He took some drastic
actions: he declared a "banking holiday" to stop the run on banks and he increased taxes dramatically. Roosevelt understood that government spending would spur on the economy but unfortunately refused the Keynesian notion that deficit spending was needed.Another recession occurred in 1937-1938.

Starting in 1939 the U.S. economy boomed as the world went to war. The U.S. came out of World War II as the world's only intact economic super-power. Economic growth in the 1950's was sedate.

Interestingly, the next big event that stimulated the economy was the Vietnam War. But a tax cut during the Johnson administration coupled with war spending led
to inflation which was inherited by Nixon. The Ford and Carter years are regarded as an economic disaster area but the fact is that 10,000,000 new jobs came into being during Carter's term. This had little to do with Carter and everything to do with demographics.
The Ford and Carter administrations had very high inflation. One of the contributory things was the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973.

The tide may have shifted when Carter appointed Volkerto be Fed Chairman but few realized it at the time. Reagan ran on a "misery index" platform and unseated Carter. It was not until Reagan's second term that economic recovery, under Volker's leadership, started to have a dramatic effect. To a significant extent
Reagan rolled-back the high income tax rates adopted during the FDR years.

In 1991 the George H. Bush administration suffered a mild recession and got blamed for it. Clinton expertly emphasized that the issue was the economy and looked great. During the Clinton administration GDP growth averaged 3.5% per year, inflation was tame and unemployment
low. The interesting thing about the Clinton presidency is that the economy was starting to expand as he took office and starting to contract before he left office.

So the question is this: what effect does the president have on the economy?

I believe that the answer is: "almost none".

The economy is affected by businesses, consumers,
bankers and the Federal Reserve. The economy,
unfortunately, seems to have natural "business
cycles". To a significant extent, the President
(along with the rest of us) is a slave to these
cycles.

The federal government does have the ability to
affect these cycles but the President has little
access to that ability. The only truly powerful
individual in the United States, in regard to the economy, is the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. He can control the money supply, regulate rates, create a recession
(by removing dollars), allow inflation, or abate inflation. Greenspan has been an expert at doing this merely by threat. He can say "irrational exuberance" one evening and have the Dow drop 140 points in the first 30 minutes the next morning. The Fed Chairman's actions can be
put into effect almost immediately. He does not have to go through the crap that the President and Congress have to go through to get something done. He answers only to the votes of members of the FOMC regarding rate policy and can do pretty much what he damn well pleases with
regard to the money supply.

In fact, the Fed Chairman may indeed be as powerful as he is because the media and the public perpetrate the myth that the President is responsible for the economy. With attention diverted to the President the Fed Chairman can actually do his job.

Jobs

The President does not create or eliminate jobs
(except for those who work for the Federal government). Bill Clinton did not create 20,000,000 jobs. If you want to credit the folks who created jobs during the Clinton years select some names from this list:
Bill Gates, Steve Case, Andy Grove, Jeff Bezios,
Vint Cerf and Sam Walton.

George W. Bush did not destroy 3,000,000 jobs any
more than he created 1,200,000 jobs in the first
six months of this year. To some extent his tax
cuts may have helped but jobs creation would
likely have been nearly the same without the tax cuts.

To some extent both FDR and Reagan may have helped the economy by adopting positive attitudes at times when the country's spirits and economy were "in the dumps". On the other hand, those recoveries may have been inevitable.

I think that Clinton deserves credit for doing
nothing - and I do not mean that sarcastically.
He let the economy "do its thing" and that worked
out just fine.

There are some things that the President does that affect the economy. He starts the budget process but, in fact, it is Congress that, to a great extent, has the say over the budget. There is a much larger staff in the Congressional Budget Office than the White House has for this task. The President can affect foreign policy, trade, and industry regulations
through agencies controlled by the executive branch.

Congress and the President do have control over fiscal policy which means taxes and spending but very little (less than 10%) is really discretionary. I think that at the time of the George W. Bush tax cuts the nation's economic health and general well-being may have better been served if the government kept taxes
where they were and engaged in numericaly equivalent deficit spending as a stimulus. The problem, I think, is that it is essentially impossible to get the members of Congress to come to consensus as to what is really good for the nation and Bush had no such spending plan
mapped for them.

The only real fiscal policy differences between thepresent two candidates probably consists in their views of what the income tax tables should look like. In reality, it is unlikely that the choice of one of those tables will have any significant effect on the economy.

If you want to be hardcore political and really
believe that Bush lost 3,000,000 jobs please explain how he did this almost immediately (in the first year) and then turned things around in 2004. If you want to blame the job loss in the first year of this Bush administration on Clinton feel free to do so but this is also false. The jobs loss was due to three things: the dot-com bust, the telecom bust and 9/11 which seriously impacted airlines and the hospitality industry. Add in some significant
corporate collapses: WorldCom, Global Crossing, Enron, Kmart.

Looking clearly at the telecom bust one can see how business cycles come into being and play out. Opportunity knocks, business builds, jobs get created, supply exceeds demand, business contracts, jobs are lost. It's that simple.

In addition, consider that the effects of recession are, in general, global rather than national. If heads of state are responsible how is it that they all simultaneously become idiots or geniuses?

Instead we make believe that the President is responsible. I suppose this achieves two things. 1) It sells some media advertising time and 2) it lets Greenspando whatever the heck he wants.

Posted by: Dick Lepre on October 7, 2004 05:35 PM

brit hume of fox news reported @ 6:30 that chris matthews is reporting dick cheney clearly said there was a link between 9/11 and saddam on"meet the press" but fox news said the cheney statement given to "meet the press" was taken out of context..the very next thing cheney said was there was NOT a link between 9/11 and saddam

Posted by: trent on October 7, 2004 06:37 PM

Regime change
I find it interesting that everyone in the media and now even the administration claims no connection between 9/11 and Saddam. OBL announced to the world after 9/11 that he ordered the attack to get back at the US for soiling Saudi Arabia with our troops that were maintaining the no-fly zone and for our support of the then only democracy in the middle east. How can that be no link? No Saddam to baby sit, less provocation of OBL.

We had only two clear options on Iraq. Regime change or allow SH to regain complete control of Iraq. The French and Russians had been pressing for the elimination of sanctions for some time. (We now have the evidence of why.)

The idea that we could allow SH to remain is a non-starter. Could we have done things differently? We could have assassinated Saddam. We maybe could have hired some organized crime types to take Saddam out. Both of these choices would have left Iraq in much worse shape than she is in now.

The US took the right course in dealing with this ruthless thug. With our troops in country we are able to guide the development of a free Iraq that will be a beacon to its neighbors.

Why should we not do the same to the leaders of Korea or Iran? At this point we have ways to pressure them and have not yet reached an end game. We are not at war with either country, as we had been with Iraq from 1991 until just recently when the interim government took over. In addition, a free Iraq shining brightly right next door will give the Iranian people the example they need to create a representative government of their own.

With Korea, as soon as the US elections are over the multilateral talks will get back to full steam. If JK wins, the Koreans will get fuel oil and reactors for a promise not to keep nuclear weapons. (Oh, wait, that was the wrong course Bill Clinton’s administration took. He wouldn’t be that stupid, would he?) No, JK has stated that he would sit down with the leaders of North Korea and hammer out a deal. If GWB win re-election the leaders of North Korea will have to decide if they have four years to string things out. If not, they will have to take the best deal that we offer, give up the weapons and materials, third party inspections and electricity from South Korean reactors on South Korean soil instead of in the North.

Posted by: Art Marquardt on October 7, 2004 09:07 PM
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