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September 17, 2004

Media Tires of Crediting Blogs for Scoops

Updated: Turns out that Captain Ed's scoop was already reported by the MSM (or at least the Conservitive News Service Network, which may or may not count), and no attribution to Captain Ed was provided.

The media was willing to credit Free Republic, Powerline, LGF, and Allah for the early scoops regarding the technical crudity of the forgeries, but now they just seem embarassed, and are reporting "news" without attribution that was actually first disclosed on blogs.

Drudge's screaming headline about Burkett comparing Bush to Hitler was of course first reported by the blogger Fried Man back in February, and re-reported and more widely disseminated in my own piece on Burkett's credibility.

Captain Ed made the jaw-dropping discovery that Burkett claimed to have "reassembled" Bush's files; but this article re-reporting that doesn't mention Captain Ed at all.

With all due respect, MSM: It's a simple rule. If you are re-reporting news discovered by someone else, whether paid or amateur, you credit the original reportage.

Update: Johnny Walker Red tells me that Drudge had the OnLine Journal screed mentioning "reassembling files" the day before Captain Ed did.

Well, okay, but as Johnny concedes, Drudge seems to have missed the significance of the article; he didn't highlight the reassembling language.

And, even if Drudge had it before Captain Ed-- then Drudge should get credit. He's a blogger, of sorts, too.


posted by Ace at 02:59 PM
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You know, I figured this was how they would eventually start handling it. When blogs were a controversial novelty (in their eyes, anyway), they'd attribute material to them. But now that it's dawned on them that blogs are actually way out there ahead of the pack, it's "blog? What's a 'blog'?"

See no reporting, hear no reporting!

Posted by: ilyka on September 17, 2004 04:08 PM

Drudge had the Burkett Online Journal thing on the night the Kinko's deal broke, a day before the Captain had it. I read it that night but was in a hurry to read everything coming in about Kinko's, so I missed the "reassmbled" thing. Captain deserves credit for that, certainly, but the Burkett rant was out there a day before. Granted, I think Drudge missed the signifigance of it too, because he did not give it a headline - it was a sidebar item which I nearly skipped.

Posted by: Johnny Walker Red on September 17, 2004 04:25 PM

I still remember when Bill O'Reilly was listening to somebody spell out the URL for Little Green Footballs. The look on his face was priceless.

Little green what?

The media likes they're reporting sanitized and politically correct, something the blogosphere is not. Reporters may be reading blogs for tips, but they're not going to give many attributions.

Posted by: Rob on September 17, 2004 05:04 PM

Hey thanks for the clarification and the link, Ace. I don't care what they say about you - I think you're a standup dude.

Posted by: Johnny Walker Red on September 17, 2004 05:47 PM

I think you're a standup dude.

He sure is. I'm the one who taught him how to blockquote.

I'm so proud...

;-)

Posted by: Rob on September 17, 2004 06:00 PM

Actually, that's very helpful.

It's just sort of a pain in the ass to write 'blockquote.'

But it is definitely easier to read.

I guess all that italics on my site made me look like a half-a-maniac.

Posted by: ace on September 17, 2004 11:15 PM

Well, it was definetly hard to read anyway. All the text matched up along the margins making it hard to discern where the quoting stopped and the commentary began.

ITs still sort of hard to tell where the post stops and the comments begin, but that Paypal button helps.

I don't know, I'm just picky like that.

Posted by: Rob on September 18, 2004 02:26 PM

Yeah I noticed how quickly they stopped talking about blogs or siting specifics. My jaw dropped as I saw one story about how first it started on the Internet and then how the regular media worked even harder on the story.

Feh. Whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: Dean Esmay on September 19, 2004 06:52 AM
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