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August 09, 2004

Warporn Pic of the Day

RDBrewer explains: The XM307, our new grenade machine gun. Yes, grenade machine gun. It shoots high-explosive airbursting, armor piercing, and training ammunition. The rounds can explode while flying over a target. Accurate up to 2000 meters.

More here, including a Quicktime video of the weapon in use.


posted by Ace at 10:20 PM
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Holy Fuckin' Frijoles....

Posted by: frinklin on August 9, 2004 11:52 PM

shit like this almost makes me want to stay in...even the new individual rifle (forget the name, but it's an x-something) is awesome.

i mean, it's hard to beat the mk19, but i think they've done it.

Posted by: francisthegreat on August 10, 2004 12:49 AM

Al-Sadr could use a few rounds of that upside his head.

Posted by: mbarek on August 10, 2004 08:50 AM

It has a "Dispersion of Less than 1.5 Mils, One Sigma Radius."

I don't even know what the hell that even means, but I guarantee it's fucking amazing!

Posted by: george gaskell on August 10, 2004 09:01 AM

I want one for home defense.

Posted by: rdbrewer on August 10, 2004 09:15 AM

Is there a single red-blooded American man who could see that picture and NOT click on the video link?

Posted by: GE on August 10, 2004 09:37 AM

Is that an XM307 in your pants or are you just glad to see me?

Posted by: Senator PhilABuster on August 10, 2004 10:06 AM

Am I the only one who'd love to see Hussein executed by a firing squad of those bad boys?

Posted by: zetetic on August 10, 2004 10:34 AM

I want one! I want one! Holy f'ing shite that's cool!

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic on August 10, 2004 11:00 AM

Think that will take care of my mom's woodchuck problem?

Posted by: lauraw on August 10, 2004 11:22 AM

Is this the weapon that started life as the OCSW? If so, all I can say is, "Dear Santa,"!!!!

Oh, and francisthegreat, I believe the we4apon YOU are referring to is the OICW. If this thing IS the OCSW, it fires the same grenade as the GL portion of the OICW. Only faster.

Posted by: Brian B on August 10, 2004 11:40 AM

I love the fact that, in the video, the shooter is just sitting there, looking at his little view screen, not bothered at all, not stressed or strained in the least, just pounding away. It's like he could be firing one of those carnival bean-bag guns at a row of milk bottles with clown faces painted on them.

"Ho, hum look at me -- I'm firing armor-piercing grenades with a dispersion pattern of less than 1.5 mils, one sigma radius. All in a day's work. Yawn."

Posted by: george gaskell on August 10, 2004 11:41 AM

This thing was actually developed as part of the OICW program, to fire the same ammunition as the grenade launcher part. The Army was unsatisfied with the lethality of the 20mm ammunition of the OICW, hence the move both here and in the Army's new shoulder fired grenade launcher to 25mm ammunition.

And yes, the XM-8 is going to be bitchin, especially if we get smart, tell NATO to stuff it, and switch to 6.8mm Grendel.

Posted by: Mr. Bowen on August 10, 2004 11:46 AM

Thanks Mr. Bowen, for the clarification. I knew it looked a lot like the OCSW, didn't know they'd upped the caliber of the ammo.

Posted by: Brian B on August 10, 2004 11:58 AM

Not disagreeing at all, just want to figure out whether francisthegreat is talking about the XM29 (OICW) or the XM8 (lightweight assault rifle).

My understanding is the XM8 is almost through pre-production and is going to start getting issued soon (fy05).

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m8-oicw.htm

The XM29 has still not gotten out of the testing phase (too bulky, too many fragile electronics, etc). But that's the rifle with the integrated grenade launcher that has programmable airbursts

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m29-oicw.htm

scroll down for pics in both instances

Posted by: hobgoblin on August 10, 2004 12:05 PM

Speaking of the XM-8, see videos.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?s=1-292925-xm8.php

Posted by: gibs. on August 10, 2004 12:06 PM

I hate fucking quick time!
sound but no movie

Posted by: Greg on August 10, 2004 12:09 PM

In searching for an article about this weapon, I found an email correspondence from some defense-news publication in which it was stated that the OICW was effectively dead as a weapons program.

Too bulky, too many fragile electronics (as stated), plus:

-- the grenades it fired were too small to be effective

-- they could never apparently get the precision airburst feature to work, which is the weapon's big new feature-- you could, in theory, set the precise distance/moment at which the grenade detonated, allowing you to fire past a wall an enemy was hiding behind, but with the grenade blowing up just as it passed the wall, thus injuring or killing the soldier despite his having cover and you not having line-of-sight to the target

-- there was an unconfirmed report of the grenade blowing up inside the barrel of the weapon

Posted by: ace on August 10, 2004 12:11 PM

By the way, the grenades the OICW fired were 20mm. They've experimented with 25mm.

Also apparently the ergonomics of the weapon weren't good. The weapon had the grenade launcher above the carbine barrel, rather than below, which is the customary way to do it.

They say they're trying to work on the grenade-firing part of the weapon as a separate weapon, which seems to make more sense to me.

Posted by: ace on August 10, 2004 12:16 PM

Well, ace, I donated to the site. So I'm not shy about noting that my birthday comes around within three months, and this featured item would be a cherished, well-received gift.

Hint. Hint.

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick on August 10, 2004 12:29 PM

Yep, the OICW is dead in the water at the moment. The 20mm isn't lethal enough, and the 25mm is too damn heavy for a combined weapon. There will be a shoulder fired semi-automatic clip fed 25mm grenade launcher in the XM-8's stable.

Now you will excuse me whilst I go towel off my extremities.

Posted by: Mr. Bowen on August 10, 2004 12:58 PM

Fox News/Fox Magazine had a "block" devoted to all the new weapons systems with infrantry and armor focus. Todd Conner trigger pulled the XM8 full auto, turned, grinning like a jack ass eating barbed wire,and I heard, "Eat your fu*king hearts out shitsticks." Was then distracted by Laurie Dhue.

Posted by: Mr Bad Example on August 10, 2004 03:29 PM

oops missed the conversation...all i know about this is from an old stars and stripes article anyway, most of the folks here know more about this than i. i hadn't realized the precision airburst weapon had been scrapped. but i'm still excited about the xm8 and the variants.
(http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm seems like a good basic description.)
it's a welcome change

Posted by: francisthegreat on August 10, 2004 04:30 PM

I can't WAIT to see one of these on the range.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on August 10, 2004 09:22 PM

Barrett has developed an individual weapon based on the same 25mm (.98 caliber) grenade. I'm in no shape to hump the thing from my car to the range, and the recoil exceeds the Army's procurement limits, but there are situations where it would surely make a difference.

Posted by: triticale on August 11, 2004 03:06 PM

Have they come out with the civilian version yet? You know, for home defense?

Seriously, that is one cool looking machine.

Posted by: RP on August 13, 2004 10:51 AM

Take THAT, you wascally wabbit!!! HEH HEH HEH

Posted by: freddfish on August 14, 2004 09:15 AM

Ah'm from tha South! Ah Lahk ta mastur...mastur... beat off lookin' at guns! Jarge Dubya Bush is mah hero! I divorced mah toothless wife and married an M-16!!! 5.56mm, she's a perfect fit!

Posted by: Nick on February 7, 2005 11:27 PM

Just think of the XM307 attached to a foolproof robot! What next? How bout a "lill nuke shooter"?

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