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June 18, 2004
Paul Johnson BeheadedJust on the wires. Reuters reporting, based on reporting from Al Arabia TV. Vicious animals. I'm not religious, but I don't suppose it could hurt to pray for his family and friends. This may not be the time or place for sarcasm. But the point has to be made. I have not heard yet if Paul Johnson -- an innocent civilian -- was afforded a beheading which complied with the beheading-requirements of the Geneva Conventions. I'm sure Joe Biden will explain to me that we have to treat these subhumans with kid gloves because otherwise these murder-cultists will begin really abusing civilian prisoners. Let me say what I've been dancing around for a while: Not only do I think it permissible to torture these cocksuckers, not only do I think it well-advised to torture these cocksuckers, but I think it is necessary and right that we torture these cocksuckers. They have forfeited their claims on humanity. They are not human and ought not to be treated as such. They are monsters, by their own voluntary choice. I don't like the idea of medical experimentation on animals. I don't like to know that animals are suffering. But between animal suffering and saving human lives, I support saving human lives. These people are less than animals, for they have become animals by conscious choice. If you support inflicting horrible pain on chimpanzees to save human lives, I do not see how you can object to inflicting horrible pain on these vicious, vile pigs. Chimpanzees are innocent. These monsters are as guilty as Satan himself. posted by Ace at 01:28 PM
CommentsI'm sure they read him his Miranda rights and gave him access to a lawyer and a trial by jury of his peers before summarily executing him. Oh, wait. That's what we do to our enemies (except the summary execution part). Time to start doing some killing of our own. Posted by: Sharkman on June 18, 2004 01:44 PM
I concur, Ace. Posted by: Senator PhilABuster on June 18, 2004 01:47 PM
Damn right, Ace. It's exactly right to recognize the distinction between these things and human beings. Hell, even uber-Leftist Dershowitz agrees with torturing these sacks of shit. And preemptively ignore the "nuke mecca" fools. There's a difference, however slight, between the ones who carry this out and the ones who dance in the streets at hearing the news. Posted by: hobgoblin on June 18, 2004 01:53 PM
It's time to break these animals.. In my perfect world, Dark opperations would begin today against Al Jazeer, Al Arabia, Those sucka ass Mullas in Iran, Bashar al Assad, Dan Rather, the PLO, Hezbella, and any islamopunk here in the States or Canada who has the nuts to publicly celebrate this be-heading. They all would die exactly the same way Paul did. And I would enjoy that. Posted by: Arvin on June 18, 2004 02:21 PM
I'm equally outraged and not opposed to whatever means are necessary to get the info out of terrorists, but when you say "these sunsabitches" who do you mean? I mean, part of the problem is the fact that we can't easily determine who the enemy is. Just sayin. Posted by: Bill from INDC Journal on June 18, 2004 02:24 PM
I mean, part of the problem is the fact that we can't easily determine who the enemy is. Yes, but we often do know who the enemy is. Posted by: ace on June 18, 2004 02:28 PM
There's a difference, however slight, between the ones who carry this out and the ones who dance in the streets at hearing the news. Those that dance may elect to receive a 1/4 oz. of KY Jelly prior to the, er, interrogation. I couldn't agree more Ace, the longer we fuck around the bolder these fucking savages become. And the ninnys and sissys in the press with their dresses up over their heads offering a tit for the beasts to suckle upon should be tossed in a fucking dark cell for a while to ponder just what they enable. Posted by: keggin on June 18, 2004 02:29 PM
Just one thing to say here, though I agree with you on 99% of it, Ace. They're still human. They're horrible, evil men who don't deserve one more moment of wasting precious oxygen, but they're still human. I'm a religous man, and in that view, they're not the ones who granted themselves humanity, and therefore no actions of theirs can take it away. Posted by: Dirge on June 18, 2004 02:40 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, Ace. I also believe that the comparisons between this sort of brutality and the "torture" of prisoners in our custody is a prime example of political correctness run amok. Not the same thing. At all. Dirge? You're a better man that I am. That's all I'm saying. Posted by: Emma on June 18, 2004 02:43 PM
"I mean, part of the problem is the fact that we can't easily determine who the enemy is." In this case that is true. And so on FoxNews, they're talking about the best way to respond to this, and I got an idea. We don't know who the killers were, but we actually do know who their friends are. These guys held Paul Johnson in the hopes (?) that Saudi Arabia would release some terrorists from prison. I say it's high time to comply with that demand, one body part at a time. Posted by: Aaron on June 18, 2004 03:45 PM
Unfortunately these fuckers are all too human. Other animals generally don't engage in this kind of behavior, it is uniquely and ubiquitously human. That being said, there needs to be a pronouncement putting those who engage in this behavior outside the bounds of any protection. The sticking point really is what Hobgoblin said, that we need to ensure that we do not behead, torture, disembowel, impale, burn at the stake any who have not engaged in this behavior, and so we are again emeshed in due process. Oh well, such is the price of being the good guys. Posted by: Dave Pasquino on June 18, 2004 04:01 PM
I am proud to see that the actions of these scumbags has not fallen on blind eyes as it so often does in our goverment. We look like FOOLS in the eyes of the world !!!! America, the strongest nation in the world has ( in the past 4 years alone ) Been taken to its knees by little piss-ant countries time and time again. and even the ones we saved from that other asshole Sadam are now killing our men in uniform and spitting on our flag, I say it's time we bring our guys home and show these jawas how a real war is won, Just ask the Japs..... Trust me.. They still remember. Then we can start taking care of the muslims here at home. Goodbye to bad TRASH Posted by: Shysta on June 19, 2004 02:05 AM
I don't much want to "take care of the muslims here at home," and I hope you don't either. I want to take care of terrorists and terrorist-enablers. There's a difference. Posted by: ace on June 19, 2004 02:14 AM
The time for action is now! We need a president who is not afraid to stand up for us. If Reagon was in office, this wouldn't be an issue. It's time to fight back. Innocent people are being brutelly executed, soliders are being killed by people we are supposed to be saving. It's disgusting. It's time to stand tall, and go in swinging and show them we aren't playing around. I'm tired of being terrorized by some 3rd world groups. Their savages, and they need to be dealt with swiftly. Nuff said! Posted by: Thegreatbishop on June 19, 2004 06:35 AM
Westerners in Saudi should be furnished with some kind of explosive device (belts?), worn every day 'just in case.' If you're probably going to die anyway, might as well... Either that, or a small cannister that dispenses a nerve gas which reacts with curried goat in the bloodstream. Posted by: lauraw on June 19, 2004 09:33 AM
The dude went to Iraq on his own free will to make big bucks so that was the chance he took and he lost bigtime. He also lost his head. Posted by: Den0029 on June 19, 2004 11:37 AM
Thank You Ace. I should have said that better. I do understand that here in America the TRUE muslims are feeling the pain with us. Posted by: Shysta on June 19, 2004 11:49 AM
Den0029 (asshole), People go to work each day of their own free will to make bucks, big or otherwise. If they're killed on the way to work by gangsters, do you say "They knew the risks"? You vicious fucking animal. You and your kind are actually cheering the deaths of your fellow Americans. Posted by: ace on June 19, 2004 12:22 PM
Aw, Ace, you shouldn't come off 'vacation' just for a troll. Seriously. Self-detonating hostages. Think about it. Something tells me Al-Jazeera won't be broadcasting THAT video. Posted by: lauraw on June 19, 2004 12:57 PM
(...ongoing story about a terrorist attack in Riyadh) "...they take the hostages and shoot their way out again, hijacking a car to escape. As they race through the streets with the hostages in the back seat, their car explodes. No terrorist organization has claimed responsibility for the attack. No demands were made to the Saudi Government. The End. Posted by: lauraw on June 19, 2004 01:06 PM
Laura, funny stuff. I like the curried goat nerve gas. Posted by: rdbrewer on June 19, 2004 01:08 PM
"They have forfeited their claims on humanity. They are not human and ought not to be treated as such. They are monsters, by their own voluntary choice." Death to them all! Time for American to get angry. Posted by: Sailor Kenshin on June 19, 2004 09:14 PM
[Joe America's post, which made multiple lucid points about "niggers" and "killing all these animals," has been deleted because it was so well-reasoned and intelligent it is was just frankly embarassing to my own meager efforts. I don't want to delete comments, but I also don't want to get on anyone's White Power Hate Site list, unless I put myself there.] Posted by: joe america on June 23, 2004 12:59 PM
Jerkoff, Don't post in the comments of my site any more. Thank you. Posted by: ace on June 23, 2004 01:09 PM
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