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June 04, 2004
German Report: Taliban Offered to Extradite OBL... to ClintonOffer was made "about a year" before the September 11 attacks: ZDF reported that American and Taliban officials met secretly in Frankfurt in November 2000 to discuss deporting bin Laden long before his al Qaeda terrorist network successfully hijacked airliners and crashed them into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington in 2001. The television documentary, which aired Thursday evening in Germany, said the Afghan-American businessman Kabir Mohabbat tried to broker a deal between the U.S. government and the hard-line Islamic Taliban. Mohabbat quoted the Taliban foreign minister, Mullah Wakil Ahmed Mutawakil, as saying: "You can have him whenever the Americans are ready. Name us a country and we will extradite him." Ever notice that when the media is reporting on something that is potentially damaging to Clinton, they get very vague about the administration the event occurred under? They can never bring themselves to say "Clinton." The best they can do is provide a vague date that allows you to figure out who was the President at the time. I can't help but think they're hoping readers don't bother doing the math themselves. I've seen this dozens of times. Hell, I've even seen them misidentify the President during 1999 or 2000 as George Bush in their rush to pin something on the current administration. Anyone remember that story? Let me know in the comments if you do. I know Instapundit covered it. Ooooh! Here's another recent example! Here's the MSNBC story regarding a walk-in tipping the US to a planned Al Qaeda jet attack, a year before 9-11. The walk-in was disbelieved, and no action was taken on his tip. Now: Go to the top of the article and search for "Clinton." Who was President when this occurred? Who knows? It's a mystery. A stone-cold whodunnit. Maybe it was Clinton. Maybe it was Bush. It's hard to say, and really, why should we get all hung up on "basic facts" anyway? Let's keep our eyes on the bigger picture: George Bush is ruining this country and he caused 9-11. Ace of Spades Readers are Awesome: Golden Boy remembers the story in which Clinton's failure to follow-up on an offer to extradite OBL is blamed on Bush: The report revealed that in a previously undisclosed secret diplomatic mission, Saudi Arabia won a commitment from the Taliban to expel bin Laden in 1998. But a clash between the Taliban’s leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, and Saudi officials scuttled the arrangement, and Bush did not follow up. Bush didn't follow up? From Austin, Texas? What the fuck was he supposed to do? Don his famous cowboy garb and "Yeee-haw!" his way into fucking Kabul and lasso hisself some terrorist? Who knew that the President of the United States had, in 1998, delegated terrorist-lassoin' activities to the governor of Texas? If that were the case, the media really should have made that clear, as it would have disproved the notion that Bush had "no" foreign policy experience. If a guy has been de-pu-tized by the head American Marshall to take his trusty horse Nugget and his keen-nosed smell-hound Arrow, and then gallop off to foreign capitals to russle hisself up some evil-doers, then I gotta say, I count that as foreign policy experience of some sort. By the way, MSNBC apparently has corrected their original error. They deleted the reference to Bush not following up. So, did they say that Clinton did not follow up? Nope. They said the United States did not follow up. Odd, that. When they think it's a Bush failure, they personalize the failure. When it turns out to be a Clinton failure, it's a failure of all Americans. And they once again cagily avoid mention of the man in charge at the time. posted by Ace at 04:15 PM
CommentsWho needs facts when there's an election to be won! Posted by: Da Goddess on June 4, 2004 05:08 PM
Ace, Posted by: Golden Boy on June 4, 2004 05:20 PM
Da Goddess, Precisely. As Howell Raines recently opined, "facts" are not as important as the "truth" that Bush caused 9-11. Golden, Awesome. Awesome, awesome, awesomely awesome. Thanks. Posted by: ace on June 4, 2004 05:41 PM
I find that hard to believe. The saudis came to Afghanistan to ask them to surrender Bin Laden in 1997, they were were denied by Mullah Omar. So the idea the Taliban would offer OBL freely to the US seems rather far-fetched. Unless the Taliban were like, GRATEFUL for the US role in fighting the USSR out of Afghanistan or the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of relief aid to the Afghan people. But they were probably as grateful as OBL was. Posted by: Moonbat_ONe on June 4, 2004 05:48 PM
The United States also declined the handover of Bin Laden while getting a blow job in the Oval Office. Posted by: on June 4, 2004 07:18 PM
Hell, I've even seen them misidentify the President during 1999 or 2000 as George Bush in their rush to pin something on the current administration. Anyone remember that story? NK was just just discussing Enron with GregD re blaming Bush for Enron overcharges that happened in 2000 while Clinton was in office. Read that post et seq. Posted by: rdbrewer on June 4, 2004 07:50 PM
Actually, the discussion starts here, a few posts earlier, with NK's link to a O-Dub and a CBS video associating Bush with Enron overpricing. Posted by: rdbrewer on June 4, 2004 07:59 PM
Hey, CNBC changed their post: "But a clash between the Taliban’s leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, and Saudi officials scuttled the arrangement, and the United States did not follow up." Classy. Posted by: McGurk on June 4, 2004 10:31 PM
I saw the United States promoting a book recently. Posted by: rdbrewer on June 4, 2004 10:41 PM
To get the full effect of the Enron report, you really have to view the CBS video Odub linked. Two highlights: Opens with a forest fire and Enron executives cackling over it: "Burn, baby, burn!" No date is ever given for when this occurred but I'd bet money it was June 2000 because California had horrible forest fires then and the power crisis was going then. I doubt they had horrible forest fires in January, February or March (i.e., after Bush took office and when the crisis was winding down). Bill Clinton is never mentioned in the video, and you know, I really don't blame him for the California power crisis anyway. *But* after playing this footage and then a tape of Enron employees cackling about stealing from grandmothers and how they'll fix prices once Bush is elected, they cut to footage of Bush opposing price regulation. Like all this happened before the crisis. It didn't and it couldn't have (the guys couldn't have been talking about what would happen once Bush was elected, if he had already been in office, right?). Still, CBS tried their best to damn Bush by association. Which is exactly what Odub does as well. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on June 4, 2004 10:44 PM
All this garbage just to get Kerryt elected. How pitiful they are. Posted by: Stix on June 5, 2004 04:36 PM
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What? Skeleton of the most famous Musketeer, D'Artagnan, possibly discovered in Dutch church closet.
Dumas picked four names of real musketeers out of a history book, D'Artagnan, Athos, Aramis, and Porthos. So there was an actual D'Artagnan, though he made most of the story up. (Or, you know, all of it.)* Charles de Batz de Castelmore, known as d'Artagnan, the famous musketeer of Kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV, spent his life in the service of the French crown. A lot of Dumas's stories are based on bits of real history. The plot of the >Three Musketeers, about trying to recover lost diamonds from the queen's necklace, was cribbed from the then-almost-contemporaneous Affair of the Queen's Necklace. And the Man in the Iron Mask is based on real accounts of a prisoner forced to wear a mask (though I think it was a velvet mask). * Oh, I should mention, Dumas says all this, about finding the names in an old book, in the prologue to his novel. But authors lie a lot. They frequently present fictions as based on historic fact. The twist is, he was actually telling the truth here. At least about these four musketeers having actually existed and served under Louis XIV. Fun fact: You know the beginning of A Fistful of Dollars where the local gunslingers make fun of Clint Eastwood's donkey and Eastwood demands they apologize to the donkey? That's lifted from The Three Musketeers. Rochefort mocks D'Artagnan's old, brokedown farm horse and D'Artagnan is incensed.
A commenter asked which should be read first, The Hobbit of LOTR?
Easy, no question -- read The Hobbit first. It's actually the start of the story and comes first chronologically. It sets up some major characters and major pieces in play in LOTR. Also, the Hobbit is Beginner-Friendly, which LOTR isn't. The Hobbit really is a delightful book, and a fast read. It's chatty, it's casual, it's exciting, and it's funny. In that dry cheeky British humor way. I love that the narrator is constantly making little asides and commentary, like he's just sitting next to you telling you this story as it occurs to him. LOTR is a very long story. Fifteen hundred pages or so. The Hobbit is relatively short and very punchy and easy to read. If you don't like The Hobbit, you can skip out on LOTR. If you do like it, you'll be primed to read LOTR. Oh, I should say: The Hobbit is written as if it's for children, but one of those smart children's stories that are also for adults. Don't worry, there's also real fighting and violence and horror in it, too. LOTR is written for adults. (It's said that Tolkien wrote both for his children, but LOTR was written 17 years later, when his children were adults.) Some might not like The Hobbit due to its sometimes frivolous tone. Me, I love it. I find it constantly amusing. Both are really good but there is a starkly different tone to both. LOTR is epic, grand, and serious, about a world war, The Hobbit is light and breezy, and about a heist. Though a heist that culminates in a war for the spoils.
The Hobbit Challenge: Read two more chapters. I didn't have much time. Bilbo got the ring.
I noticed a continuity problem. Maybe. Now, as of the time of The Hobbit, it was unknown that this magic ring was in fact a Ring of Power, and it was doubly unknown that it was the Ring of Power, the Master Ring that controlled the others. But the narrator -- who we will learn in LOTR was none of than Bilbo himself, who wrote the book as "There and Back Again" -- says this about Gollum's ring: "But who knows how Gollum had come by that present [the Ring], ages ago in the old days when such rings were still at large in the world? Perhaps even the Master who ruled them could not have said." In another passage, the ring is identified as a "ring of power." I don't know, I always thought there was a distinction between mere magic rings and the Rings of Power created by Sauron. But this suggests that Bilbo knew this was a ring of power created by Sauron. Now I don't remember when Bilbo wrote the Hobbit. In the movie, he shows Frodo the book in Rivendell, and I guess he wrote it after he left the Shire. I guess he might have added in the part about the ring being a ring of power created by "the Master" after Gandalf appraised him of his research into the ring. I never noticed this before. I know Tolkien re-wrote this chapter while he was writing LOTR to make the ring important from the start. And also to make Gollum more sinister and evil, and also to remove the part where Gollum actually offers Bilbo the ring as a "present" -- Bilbo had already found it on his own, but Gollum was wiling to give it away, which obviously is not something the rewritten Gollum would ever do. But I had no memory of the ring being suggested to be The Ring so early in the tale.
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Oh, I forgot to mention this quote from Pete Hegseth, reported by Roger Kimball: "We are sharing the ocean with the Iranian Navy. We're giving them the bottom half."
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Tomorrow is March 25th, "Tolkien Reading Day," because March 25th is the day when the Ring is destroyed in the book. I think I'm going to start the Hobbit tomorrow and read all four books this time.
The only bad part of the trilogy are the Frodo/Sam chapters in The Two Towers. They're repetitive, slow, and mostly about the weather and terrain. But most everything else is good. Weirdly, the Frodo-Sam chapters in Return of the King are exciting and action-packed and among the best in the trilogy. (Though the chapters with everyone else in Return of the King get pretty slow again. Mostly people talking about marching towards war, and then marching towards war.)
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US decimation of Iran's ICBM forces is due to Space Force's instant detection of launches -- and the launchers' hiding places -- and rapid counter-attack via missiles
AI is doing a lot of the work in analyzing images to find the exact hiding place of the launchers. Counter-strikes are now coming in four hours after a launch, whereas previously it might have taken days for humans to go over the imagery and data.
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“robert mueller just died,” trump wrote in a truth social post on march 21. “good, i’m glad he’s dead. he can no longer hurt innocent people! president donald j. trump.”
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