But can he swim?

Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.

The problem here is Caroline Bilodeau clearly does not support a Senator's right to choose.

A woman had sex with him? Voluntarily?

Ace, you hit the nail on the head, as usual (jackass).

To many liberals and leftists, the worst of all "sins" will always be hypocrisy.

To me, hypocrisy isn't even in my *top ten* of sins. Seriously, "driving more than a block with the blinker flashing" and "not letting me know it was her 'special time' before I went all face-goofy on her" are much, *much* worse in the pantheon of sins than hypocrisy.

Freakin' liberals. They're never any fun anymore.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

The Rev. Jesse Jackson will be meeting with the Senator for prayer and counseling sessions.

Musta been the scotch. Who would want to lie with that fusty old tick?

Hey Dave at GR.

Has anybody even considered about poor Christopher here? He's the real victim.

Can you imagine if you found out that your real dad was Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Jack & Coke)?

Won't somebody please think of the children?

KevlarChick -

I would bet the drink of choice for Teddy's girls is not scotch. I see him going after the Zima/wine cooler/Smirnoff malt demographic - you know 17 to 24.

But that's absurd. The only people who aren't hypocrites are perfect nihilists, and there aren't even any of those, because even nihilists secretly believe in some values.

So those claiming to be nihilists are in fact hypocrites because they secretly believe in some values? That's hilarious.

If the kid is not a drunk, fat and stupid, he can not be the son of Ted Kennedy.

Slimeball Senator's Supposed Surreptitous Snuggling Surely Substantiates Sap's Sanctimony. Some Surprise.

"They don't like anti-drug laws, for example, so they're delighted when a Senator's son gets caught with coke and the Senator, quite understandably, fights tooth and nail to keep his kid out of prison. (HYPOCRITE!, they shout.)"

Well, isn't it hypocritical? If you spend all your life shouting "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" and "Send 'em up the river" and "Whenever a nonviolent drug offender gets raped in prison, Jesus smiles" then you ought to be practically volunteering your own kid.

How could this happen???

You'd think that Teddy would have personally performed an abortion.

She was "smitten" with the bloated Senator and had dreams about being "the next Mrs. Ted Kennedy?"

If there's an alcohol that can make women think like this, I haven't discovered it. I'm guessing White Lightning, but even that would probably have to be triple strength to get past the 'eewwwwwww" factor.

“He was very angry when she defied him and had the child.”

WTF is that? He needs a trip behind the woodshed with my boys here at AoS and their 2 x 4s and baseball bats.

wiserbud,

show-off.

Oh, right - having a personal connection changes everything. Well, I'll tell you what. During our senior year of high school, my friend Thomas Louviere was expelled for smoking pot and a few weeks later he put a shotgun against his chest and pulled the trigger with his toes. The kid certainly had issues but was generally pretty happy until his life was ruined over a harmless plant.

If you can explain to me why I shouldn't blame at least one government official for his death, be my guest. But the notion you seem to express, that this hypothetical Senator's views are more justified than mine, or anyone else whose life has been affected by draconian drug laws more than actual drugs... well, it's pretty shameful.

Well, isn't it hypocritical? If you spend all your life shouting "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" and "Send 'em up the river" and "Whenever a nonviolent drug offender gets raped in prison, Jesus smiles" then you ought to be practically volunteering your own kid.

CAN YOU FUCKING READ? FUCKING A', YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID.

YES, MORON, IT'S HYPOCRITICAL. THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THE COMMENTARY. WE ARE ALL HYPOCRITES AS REGARDS THE VALUES WE MOST PRIZE, AS WE ALL VIOLATE THEM WHILE CHAMPIONING THEM.

Jesus Christ, I didn't know that blogging required me to take a Berlitz course on Conversational Retard.

Berlitz is expensive. Anyone know a good computer CD I can learn Conversational Retard from?

For the love of everything holy. Jesus, you are as fucking stupid as a bag of stupid retards.

Was I unclear? You know, I thought the virtue of my overly wordy, barely-edited-at-all style was that if I REPEAT FUCKING THINGS SIX OR SEVEN TIMES, retards like this drooling imbecile will be pretty much guaranteed to pick up on the point at least once.

I guess I was wrong, wasn't I?

sorry. :)

I'm at my wit's end with this jackass. I don't know how to fucking write any more plainly.

Tell me, "scar shaped star," would it be easier you to follow allow if I attempted writing the thesis sentence of every post in Rebus? You know, like an eye for the word "I," a screw and a ball to indicate you're a "screwball," a picture of a drooling retard to indicate you're a fucking drooling retarded simp, etc.?

I want to meet you half-way. Please tell me what the fuck I can fucking do to make the eighth-level writing here more comprehensible to that misplaced stretch of intestinal shit-tubing you call a brain.

I'm sorry, was there a (uh) point to this (erah) post?

I'm currently wracking my brain looking for something sufficiently annoying to push Ace over the edge. If anybody has any ideas, let me know.

The best way to learn a language is by conversing with native speakers.

sandy- ixnay on the ushpay.
I think he's looking.

Ted Kennedy is 74? I can't believe he is still alive.

I saw him on Cape Cod last summer. If that's alive, I'm illiterate.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find "scarshapedstar's" use of someone else's name in his story (while he uses an alias) to be a bit, umm, unseemly?

What of his friends "right to privacy"? I'm sure that SSS is all about that "right".

Or of his friend's family? Surely they don't want their son's suicide plastered all over the internet.

But I guess SSS isn't a hypocrite violating a core lefty principle, because he was, after all, using a friends tragic death to make a political point against an evil Rethuglican-enabler like Ace.

And that, I submit, is a core lefty value.

On the other hand, imagine having to be scar's friend. Christ, it's all but pushed ace over the edge just having to read his scary-brilliant crap. I imagine that having to do it in person is astronomically worse.

Ace!

SERENITY NOW!!

Somebody hold him.

As the old TV ad for NATIONAL ENQIURER sain ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW and hoo boy although its been years since a ever bought a NATIONAL ENQIERE i DO WANT TO KNOW about chapaquedic ted

Ace - Should I put a wallet in your mouth?

It could help.

we are ALL hipocrats, like the senators illegitemate son and ACE whe he gets mad

"Posted by scarshapedstar (at TalkLeft in a thread about the drug war)
June 3, 2005 03:51 AM
...

If marijuana were legal, my friend Thomas Louviere would be alive today. Pot didn't make him commit suicide, the hell our corrupt society forced on him for smoking a harmless plant (just like approximately half of the school) did. I will never forgive people who claim that legalizing marijuana will harm more people than the drug war, because it's a lie and I've got the pain to prove it."

Pimp out your friend's memory much?

It wasn't the drugs, or being kicked out of school.

It was an attempt to escape this guy's moronic company.

Scar shaped star, what happened to your friend sucks, but it isn't Ace's fault, and drug laws are a bipartisan effort.

And since some of us are going totally off topic, I will too. Like quite a few right-wingers (i.e. instapundit.com), I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana.

I'm in favor of smoking it, too. Especially before attempting to read or comment on AoS HQ. You know how beer gives you beer goggles which make even Ace's mom look hot? Well, weed gives you weed goggles which make AoS HQ look funny. Highly recommended.

Ace, I'm not following you. Hippo-what?

something-something-crates...and liberal lions? I didn't think lions were political.

Is this annoying? How about....now?
Am I more annoying than I was when you first started reading, or has it kind of peaked?

Oh, and I could sure go for one of those club sandwiches you mentioned.

By the way, Ace, this story is old.

BTW, I notice you put a picture of Leif Garrett up there...he's hot.

Who's the old dude? Is that his dad? Was he in a fight?

I think you screwed up, Ace. The words in "Teddy Kennedy's Secret Love Child" don't all start with the same letter.

I wonder if the particular Christopher Bilodeau of whom we're allegedly speaking really exists and, if he does, I wonder if he's a 6'0", 180-pound, basketball player for Babson College. That Christopher Bilodeau is a sophomore and, thus, approximately the right age. He's also from Hull, Massachusetts where, for what it's worth, he attended Cohassett High School. I've been unable to find a photograph of that Christopher Bilodeau, so far.

I couldn't help noticing Ace alleging Alito about his mysogyny. That's terrible. Ace, you should do a post about that.

I didn't know Alito had a health condition, but that's not the kind of thing Ace usually likes to write about.

I also wonder if the Senator has an unacknowledged son who's very proud of his 1998 1.8-liter turbo GTI. If so, then let the record show that his 1.8T is bright yellow and the first part of his email address is "qtiguy." One is entitled to speculate that the Senator will not be having any unacknowledged grandchildren.

During our senior year of high school, my friend Thomas Louviere was expelled for smoking pot and a few weeks later he put a shotgun against his chest and pulled the trigger with his toes.

Ted Kennedy got tossed out for cheating. If he had killed himself over it (HEY, back there, keep it down!) would you blame academic standards?

Admit it. You're high right now, aren't you? Nasty, nasty little troll.

starshapedstar,

bad form.

You're all a bunch of fucking hypocrits. I do, however, support the legalization of pot but only for Ace. I really think he needs a spleefer.

Yeah, Kralizec is right. I've only been able to find the kid he was talking about, and some professor. If what asswipe was saying was true, there'd be a news story about it somwehere.

Yes, conservatives are hypocrites, as is any person on the face of the earth who professes a belief in an ideal or code of conduct.

Jeez, one would think thatyHenry Hyde, Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr should've cut Clinton some slack.

Oh my God. Oh....my...God. Ok, "Steve J.," I'm going to assume that that was satirical. You couldn't possibly be serious after reading the whole Scar What's-His-Face thread, because that would make you even stupider than he is. And I don't think that's possible.

Point of order:

Not being able to practice what I preach does not necessarily make me a hypocrite - it could just be that I am weak or sinful.

I am definitely a hypocrite if I preach what I don't believe.

Jeez, one would think thatyHenry Hyde, Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr should've cut Clinton some slack.

Why? Clinton was breaking the law by perjuring himself. Those other three guys weren't.

Let's talk about Democrats' hypocrisy. Clarence Thomas? Bob Packwood? (What a great name for a serial harasser: Bob Packwood.)

Hey, if Leif Garrett tells kids not to do drugs, is he a hypocrite?

fidens,
According to what you say, how can we say that anyone is “a hypocrite” since it is impossible to know what any person really believes, with the possible exception of oneself?

Is this scarshapedstar character trying to argue that if mj was legalized, they would allow kids to smoke it at high school and therefore his friend would not have been expelled and if not expelled he would be alive today? Right.

Don't automatically trash a super market tabloid. They have proven more truthful and accurate than the NYT/LAT, CBS, ABC,NBC, and CNN and it wasn't a hard task. If they get one in a hundred stories 10%correct they will be ahead of the former MSM. The tabloids even publish a correction once in a while, which is better than the former MSM's never. Maybe an excuse, but never a real correction, with an apology.

What do you mean, The National Enquirer may be sensationalizing the story. It's not like the Enquirer was some low life rag like say, The New York Times.

Ace, you're onto something when you say we're all hypocrites, in that we all violate the values we cherish and espouse.

However, I disagree that we're actually hypocrites. To my mind, a hypocrite isn't someone who occassionally doesn't live up to his values, because we are all like that. And if we all are, there isn't a term required to distinguish it because these terms are supposed to distinguish something from normalcy in the first place. If everybody is something, then nobody is.

I'd define a hypocrite as somebody who pays lip service to various moral values but doesn't even try to live up to them. If he tries to live up to them but fails, then he's just human.

Mac Chaos,

You seem to be making a thin semantic distinction between "people who occasionally behavave hypocritically" and "real hypocrites."

Yes, some are more hypocritical than others, but anyone who says "The value X is important and should be adhered" to and then violates it is hypocritical.

The only way to avoid hypocrisy is to never engage, even a little, in bad behavior, or to have no values of all.

Given the choice, I say it's better to be a hypocrite who at least praises values and codes than a nihilist.

As the old saying goes, hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.

The problem here is that the left uses the word "hypocrite" in the same erroneous way they use the word "liar".

If a conservative makes a statement based on facts they believe to be true, but which are later shown to be false, they "lied". (Bush LIED!)

The same as if a conservative espouses a moral or ethical code, and then, as humans are wont to do, gives in to weakness and fails in some way to live up to those standards, they are "hypocrites". (Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennett, etc.)

Kennedy killed more with his car then has the avrage joe who belong to the NRA has with their gun