Chirac is finally shouting out like he has a pair:
Iran would be committing a serious mistake if it ignored the international community on its nuclear program

"If Europeans/whites exhibited this sort of horrifying ethnic solidarity -- my race and religion, right or wrong or mass rape and murder -- would people note that maybe there was a problem?"

I think you've got it wrong, Ace. Even American lefties and Europeans tend to complain about the atrocities in Darfur. The problem is that's all they do -- complain. I've noted several Lefties trying to make the hypocrisy argument against Bush, wondering why he invaded Iraq and ignores Sudan, but when I ask them whether they would approve of an invasion of Sudan, they uniformly say no. So, it's not that they don't view the Darfur atrocities as evil, it's that (surprise!) they don't plan on doing anything about it.

This is actually a very old story. I remember reading it last year on LGF. But it should come to as no surprise, every Muslim Arab I have ever met has hated blacks and they were actually quite open about their racism. The word for "black" in Arabic is 'abd, and it also means "slave". When Malcom X visited Algeria he was actually quite shocked at the blatant racism Arabs displayed towards blacks and I think when he went to Mecca --you know the place where he had his anti-racist "awakening"--he actually saw black people being sold in the souk, needless to say he remained mum on the subject when he returned to America.

This isn't about tribalism, this is the inherent racism that can be found in the Koran and Hadith. Muhammad once remarked that a black man looked like a "raisin head". The ironic thing is that this "Arab" woman is probably an Afro-Arab, lighter skinned than the black Sudanese but still black. I am actually quite shocked that black people even convert to Islam. They are obviously unaware of the inherent racism in this barmy creed but some seem to think that it is somehow more authentically black than Christianity. Yeah, as if Tertullian and Augustine were nobodies.

While African women in Darfur were being raped by the Janjaweed militiamen, Arab women stood nearby and sang for joy, according to an Amnesty International report published yesterday.

Now I would call this an example of what the Marxist feminists call 'false consciousness'. But, then again, I'm no Marxist feminist, so what do I know?

Perhaps cheering on the brutal rape of other women, like female circumcision and the forced wearing of the hijab, is another of those infinitely subtle expressions of non-western feminist activism that I've been hearing about.

It's old.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1264865,00.html

Wow. Excellent job, Dave at OR. Sorry for the stale link, Ace.

Eh, it's still an important news item and merits posting.

Ace,

The ethnic solidarity among Arabs only happens during war time. The same thing can be said about Muslims in general. All of them generally do not get along during peacetime. Arab society alone is so fragmented that it divides itself by class, town, dialect, and sect. It is impossible for Arabs to get along, historically they needed a strongman to make them work together from Muhammad to Nasser.

"The word for 'black' in Arabic is 'abd, and it also means 'slave'."

Not true. The root letters for black is "swd." That kind of mistake makes me wonder about the reliability of the rest of your information.

There's some evidence that racism permeates some Islamic thought.
"Tabari II:11 “Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.”
Tabari II:21 “Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.”

You got to wonder if Ham has issues with his dad.

Arabs have historically profited in the slave trade, black and otherwise. As far as Arabs cooperating in wartime: only for so long as the pillaging is good. When it isn't, they turn on each other.

"You got to wonder if Ham has issues with his dad."

Same thing in the Hebrew Old Testament.

Gen. 9:24-27 - "And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son [Ham] had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan [Ham's son]; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant."

Note that "servant" here is the same word for "slave."

So...it's okay to massacre Christians but not Muslims, eh?

The last time I checked, the US went in with Christian/Jewish soldiers to attack Christian militants (Serbs) to protect Muslims (Bosnians) who were being ethnically cleansed by the Serbs. (Let us put aside, for a moment, that Bosnian militants were also attacking Christians. This fact is quite inconvenient.) Oh, and using Christian/Jewish soldiers (for the most part) to free Muslims in Kuwait, free the Muslim state of Iraq, protect the Muslim state of Saudi Arabia, help Muslims in Somalia, assist Muslims in earthquake-ravaged Pakistan. Let's see, we're also helping protect Muslims in Indonesia with training Indonesian forces. The list goes one.

As an aside, anyone who says America is out to get Muslims is a total idiot. The American military does more for Muslims than all Muslims states combined.

What's the good of having a Crusade if we keep helping the Muslims while abandoning the Christians?

I think we should arm Ethiopia and ask them to annex southern Sudan. Enough with the janjaweed (which word, frankly, always makes me giggle) and the Arabs. Let the Christians live with the Christians. Or, put substantial pressure on Egypt and Sudanese authorities to stop the militants. Or else. I'm sure a missle here or there could be enough to scare the Sudanese government into action. Although the problem won't go away. There's no way the current Sudanese government will be nice enough to permit the southern portion what resources and policies it deserves.

As a Christian, I am getting very fed up with the lack of action in this regard. We have done enough for others: we should care about our own too.

I might have to write to my Rep about this. He's Christian. And a Republican.

How many sat around singing GIVE PEACE A CHANCE while the twin towers fell?

Sobek,

swd is the root for the colour black.

'abd does mean a black African or slave. It is commonly used word in the Gulf States.

Surprising candor from a Muslim site on the subject:

"The African Slave Trade in the Muslim World

To further understand how racist philosophy made its way into the thinking of Muslims right up to today, we need to examine the African slave trade as it took place in the Muslim world. It is important to note that in classic Sunni thought, kufr was, according to the doctrine of jihad as it was codified and crystallized under the expanding empire of Islam, synonymous with servitude. After all the traditional Muslim ideology of slavery is closely linked to the doctrine of military jihad. The creation or resurgence of the mythology of Ham also made dark-skinned people synonymous with servitude in light-skinned Muslim thinking. This went so far that eventually the term abd (slave) went through a semantic development and came to specifically refer to “black slave” while light-skinned slaves were referred to as mamluks. And further on in later usage, the Arabic word abd came to mean ‘black man’ of whatever status.

The African slave trade in the Muslim world may be compared with that of the West only to the extent that Muslims gave it scriptural legitimacy. The comparison fades when measured against the brutality of Western, particularly American, slavery."

http://www.muslimwakeup.com/main/archives/2003/12/blasphemy_befor.php

I forgot to add that the Muslim site forgets to mention that Arab slave traders would castrate black African males on the spot so they could work in the harems and they would march them across the desert. There was a 90% mortality rate. Many slaves were also stolen (both black and white) by Muslim pirates along the European and African coasts. The Muslim version of slavery was far worse than the Western one and there was no abolition movement within Islam, ever.

In Australia, there are many news reports of male Lebanese gangs raping Australian school girls. IIRC, I read that, at one trial, the victim testified that she hid in a public womens restroom. A Lebanese girl refused her cries for help and turned her back over to the gang.

Do you know what would happen if an Arab or Muslim gang went around trying to rape girls?

If they weren't locked up by the police, they'd be shot dead within a matter of days. Because in America we don't put up with this type of dreck.

Australia needs to stiffen their laws. Go after these animals, and shoot them if they resist. Arrest anyone who opposes these actions. Demand that Muslims and Arabs do more within their communities to police their own, else Australian authorities should consider wholescale action against trouble-some demographics. By which I mean forcible expulsion.

A state that cannot provide security to its own citizens has utterly failed them.

Wow. I just stumbled upon this site searching for something totally different, but after reading, I must comment. I am a UNITED STATES soldier, and only that. I defend the United States. How dare you computer glued conservative thinkers chat about where Bush should send me and my fellow soldiers to go police up. There's rapes HERE in america. There's murders HERE. There's starving peole HERE. There's racism HERE. Try and say there isn't. Half of you assholes posting on this site are the causes for the problems. If we continue to blame this race for these problems and that race for those problems, were going to have nothing but more problems. Look at the state our country is in. Look at the depths we have sunk to. All of it over a religious crusade that has brought us nothing. Nothing but 2000+ dead soldiers and counting.
Don't get me wrong. Don't automatically label me as some kind of hippie. I have a conservative way of viewing economics and such, but all this christian crap running our government has got to stop. Our country is getting left behind because we do nothing but argue and try to solve pointless problems in order to support a more christian way of life for the future. While we're waisting our time doing that, other countries are passing us up on the world economy. We're even letting China make us look bad.
We're de-evolving folks. We need to take a good hard look at what we spend so much arguing about.

oh yeah, and "black" in arabic is pronouced "aswad." Do some research.
btw, what's all this finger pointing at arabs over slavery? do we forget our own country's history?

Thanks for your service and your comments. Forgive us, however, if we find your arguments unconvincing. Particularly since they don't seem to reflect the facts of the domestic or international situation. Feel free to come back and discuss these issues, although focusing on specific items would be more productive than trying to address the breadth of your position.