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December 30, 2005

I Erred

This has been endlessly hashed out by now, but a confession is in order: I was sloppy and careless in titling the NSA poll post to include the word "warrantless." That wasn't acutally in the question posed, as a number of liberal critics pointed out (and a number of conservative readers here agreed).

I didn't try to sneak anything past anyone; it was just sloppiness. I didn't actually read the full question -- mistake number one -- and I just tried to come up with a title to alert people to what the poll was about. It wasn't a poll about eavesdropping, generally; it was about the specific eavesdropping conducted by Bush (although, in fairness, the question posed is open to criticism for not fully explaining the situation). I came up, in three seconds, with "Warrantless Eavesdropping" as a way to describe it. Warrantless was a mischaracterization, and, in fact, so was "Eavesdropping," as we're talking about wireless intercepts, by and large.

But, pressed for a title, I should have relied upon the actual question more, and the actual title Rasmussen gave the article (which of course did not include the word "warrantless.") Instead, I tried to quickly come up with my own digest of the article, a digest which it turned out was misleading or just plain false.

I did change the headline about fifteen minutes after I became aware of the complaint at all. That post simply got buried; I never revisited it, nor did I notice all the argumentation going on in the thread. I saw some arguments going on in the "Most Recent Comments" section, but I didn't pay them much mind, assuming all the fuss was about Rasmussen's question itself, not about my headline in particular.

Incidentally, I think Rasmussen's question was perfectly fair, for reasons I won't bother getting into, as this is about my error.

I shouldn't have written "Warrantless" in the title. Sloppy. Loose shit. Incorrect. Misleading. I did change it once I realized there was a genuine complaint about the headline (my defenders on the site were defending my integrity while also conceding I was wrong in this particular case, which is a pretty good tip-off you're on shaky ground at the very least). Incidentally, the post title is still the same on RSS feeds, I'm told, but if you actually click on the link, you'll see it was changed.

But one point: At some point in one of the threads, someone posted as me, claiming to be making a statement based on advice from my legal counsel, and concluded "this thread is locked." I was going to pitch a bitch about that, but, let's face it, posting under another's name for humorous effect is something that gets done around here a lot, so I didn't say anything. I didn't see the humor in it, but I decided not to make a big case about it. I had myself posted as "Woody Guthrie" and "Dorothy Guthrie" and "Brick Tamerland" in the same thread, so I really couldn't get all outraged someone had swiped my name for this pot.

But I didn't write it. DB tells me that some liberals are making an issue of this post, apparently over the "thread is locked" part, suggesting I attempted to stop discussion in a thread about my error. Well, I didn't write that, and the thread is not locked, and you may all continue discussing my error.

I don't think I've ever "locked" a thread in my history, nor ruled some discussions out of bounds (except for Downtown Lad challenging me to a fight, and then threatening to call the cops when I agreed that I would kick his ass).

Just to clarify: I was wrong, but I didn't mean to be deceptive; I was sloppy, which is itself blameworthy. Just not as blameworthy as deliberate deceit. But I did correct fifteen minutes after finding out about the complaint (my first words on it were something like "yeah, you've got a decent point about wording," though I did go on to defend the wording). And I never, ever said "the thread is locked," and I'd appreciate if people didn't steal my monicker any more, except in cases where the humor -- and the falsity -- of the post is clear.

I actually assume that the person who wrote that is a regular, and was trying to be funny. Well, it wasn't really funny, and it wasn't over-the-top enough to alert people to the fact that it was a false-attribution post. And it included something that now has people thinking I don't allow free discussion: "this thread is locked."

Please don't do that again. If you want to post by "ace" saying "I'm a big retard and like the smell of poop," go ahead, that's obviously parody. But don't write a post that can easily be mistaken for a real post by me. If you're not sure it's clear that it's a parody, say it's by "Ace Junior" or "Ace's Left Nut" or something.

Multiple Layers Of Painstaking Editorial Fact-checking Update: I had an idea to ad that I don't have the "multiple layers of etc." that the MSM does, but in fact I do-- I have readers who point out my errors, some helpfully, some just to hurt (like JeffB.), and of course liberal critics as well. The main reason this one took so long to correct is I just didn't even realize I'd made an error.

I don't read every thread. I read some, skim others, and don't read others at all.

If you do see some glaring error that needs correction, and a notification to that effect in a thread doesn't seem to be attracting my attention, please, if it's not too much trouble, alert me by email. I usually don't allow errors to go uncorrected out of stubborness or laziness; it's usually just because I don't know about them. So if there's a big error, one you have to concede to a liberal critic is an error, and yet I'm not correcting it, please drop me a line to make sure I know I've goofed.

I allow a lot of typos to go by -- like "auf widersehen" yesterday, with the missing "e" after the "i" -- out of laziness, and a fundamental belief that a slapdash, sloppy approach to things is, in some retarded way, charming. But not big things.

BTW: How hard was this confession to make? Not hard in the least. The good thing about making so many errors is that you kind of get used to making corrections.

Clarification: I only posted as Woodie Guthrie once. Allah had quoted Anchorman about taking out Woodie Guthrie's mom, Dorothy Guthrie, out for a nice seafood dinner and then never calling her again, and I posted as "Woodie Guthrie" to do the follow-up line: "Dorothy Guthrie is a saint!" In context, I thought it would be clear that this wasn't Woodie Guthrie, since he wasn't in on the Anchorman joke, and certainly wouldn't play along. Not when he had such good put-downs to offer, like "PUSSY" ever five seconds.

Steve_from_hb just asked if I had been posting as "Woodie Guthrie" to stir controversy or something, so I thought I'd clarify. No, he was real. Real, and dumb. I didn't post as him, except that one time, just to complete the Anchorman exchange. I don't do fake-troll postings to create arguments or whatever (and, by the way, Hoke Malokey continues to be real). I just did that one little line to complete the joke.

Related: Cop Attacked By Angry Chihuahuas.

Thanks to both Steve and CG.


posted by Ace at 02:06 PM
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I love you Ace.

Posted by: pcox on December 30, 2005 02:12 PM

A troll pretends to be you in a comment thread, offering concessions and apologies.

You're good. I don't think a troll ever pretended to be me apologizing.

Although there was that one guy who said he was me and wanted to suck your dick, but now I know it was really him that wanted to suck your dick.

Which is a relief!

Posted by: Dave in Texas on December 30, 2005 02:20 PM

You owe ME an apology too. Ouch, that STILL smarts.

Posted by: Ace's left nut on December 30, 2005 02:22 PM

I challenge you to a fight with my Junior Cougar cock.
I promise not to call the cops.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on December 30, 2005 02:22 PM

Stop apologizing. Something inadvertently slipped by. So what. The left is just waiting to play gotcha! They deliberately spin and distort, so don't sweat it. Nobody's perfect and even books read by half dozen or so professional proof readers slip into print with misspellings, mis-punctuation, wrong attributions, etc.

Chill out. You're right 99.99 % of the time. That's plenty good enough for a mere human being.

Posted by: tefta on December 30, 2005 02:24 PM

Hey, it's fake but accurate, or factitious. And really, isn't that all that matters?

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic on December 30, 2005 02:27 PM

I'm a big retard and like the smell of poop.

I also certify that lefty blogs are completely sane.

Posted by: ace on December 30, 2005 02:28 PM

Ace, didn't you lock the Cedarford thread?

I knew it was a hoax. I read that post three times and concluded it wasn't your style.

I'm like Sherlock fecking Holmes when it comes to style and patterns.

Posted by: Bart on December 30, 2005 02:35 PM

Bart, if I catch you fecking Holmes again...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on December 30, 2005 02:42 PM

Oh, mia culpa! mia culpa! Enough already! Just tell everyone to kiss your hairy yellow behind and get a life!

Posted by: Targus on December 30, 2005 02:43 PM

Ace, didn't you lock the Cedarford thread?

I don't think so. I don't really remember. I deleted a post of his about some black thugs, where he basically said that thuggishness was just in their genes or something, and then cautioned people to please not continue down that road... but I don't think I actually said "No one can post in this thread anymore."

I don't think I've ever said that, nor do I think I ever would, unless something extreme is going on, like posters making libelous statements about someone and refusing to stop.

Posted by: ace on December 30, 2005 02:46 PM

your hairy yellow behind...

Ace is an Asian hirsute?

Very interesting.

Posted by: Bart on December 30, 2005 02:46 PM

Posting as Sigmund Freud or Long John Dong is one thing (or is it the same thing?), but I, for one, seriously don't care for the tactic of ID spoofing any regular commenter. Unless the parody is explicit in the email address.

"Obvious" parody in the comment itself just isn't enough: you jackasses are liable to say anything.

Posted by: S. Weasel on December 30, 2005 02:46 PM

I do not agree with the profusity of your apology. Everyone makes mistakes. You're man enough to acknowledge, correct, and apologize for it. However, it should silence anyone who may still have lingering objections. At least those that let reality get in the way. ;-)

You still rock.

Posted by: Muslihoon on December 30, 2005 02:49 PM

It's nice that you've cleared up the record on this but it's not that big of a deal.

Meanwhile, I'll be holding my breath waiting for the sites that had such fun with this to be generous, acknowledge what you've said here and move on.

Yep, holding my breath...starting to feel a little faint...things getting darker...

Posted by: Drew on December 30, 2005 02:51 PM

I thought the guy depicting Ace on Rightalk.com was East Asian. Hmmmmm. Thanks for outing him, Targus.

Posted by: Muslihoon on December 30, 2005 02:52 PM

You know, the opinions of Ace's Left Nut and Ace's Little and Big Heads notwithstanding, I think Intelligent Design is a pretty interesting idea.

Posted by: Ace's Right Nut on December 30, 2005 02:53 PM

Ace,
Please don’t Errr again.
Dick & Carl might withhold your weekly Crazy GOP Blog Money check.
That would be bad.
A. Weasel

Posted by: AssWeasel on December 30, 2005 02:53 PM

Are you Weasel's related?

Posted by: BrewFan on December 30, 2005 03:05 PM

I think it logical to assume that many others including those being asked the question as a part of Poland process made the same assumption as you did.

Ttherefore how changing the question to better satisfy the liberals may be fun subject at parties , but I don't think it's gonna make a substantial change in the numbers presented.

Posted by: Bithead on December 30, 2005 03:11 PM

A thorough, manful apology, but nothing that the libs shouldn't have already known. Little hyperfrenetic bastards. More than half the arrivals didn't even read your post (which had the title corrected) - they just based their comments on what they read at the Hamster's.

Posted by: geoff on December 30, 2005 03:12 PM

BrewFan.
Not that I am aware of, but, I haven’t completed my genetic analysis of the Weasel clan yet (some of the little weasels want to be paid for their DNA). Greedy Bastards are standing in the way of science & truth.
A. Weasel

Posted by: AssWeasel on December 30, 2005 03:20 PM

Everyone makes mistakes, that is why pencils have erasers.

Posted by: on December 30, 2005 03:38 PM

Apologies are for pussies, Ace. You should have regrets, but should be this long. From now on, keep your regrets to two paragraphs, maximum.

Seriously, if anything you're too contrite. A genuine mistake was made, you acknowledge it like a mensch, but you don't need to bring out the scorpion-tailed whips and start flailing yourself.

Posted by: Jeff B. on December 30, 2005 03:46 PM

you don't need to bring out the scorpion-tailed whips and start flailing yourself.

Yeah, it just makes Michael jealous.

Posted by: sandy burger on December 30, 2005 03:52 PM


Misconception unfolds but understanding comes in change.

l'Étoile Brillante, Happy New 2006 Year!

Posted by: Angelique on December 30, 2005 03:56 PM

I didn't intend it to be so long. I had to explain. I also had to address the "this thread is locked" issue.

Crooks & Liars used this error to impugn the whole of the dextrosphere, so I didn't want my error unacknowledged and then used against other conservatives.

Posted by: ace on December 30, 2005 04:08 PM

This thread is locked.

Posted by: sandy burger on December 30, 2005 04:15 PM

This thread is locked.

Onto what? What's the target? Tehran? Isfahan? Details!

Posted by: Muslihoon on December 30, 2005 04:16 PM

"I don't think I've ever said that, nor do I think I ever would, unless something extreme is going on, like posters making libelous statements about someone and refusing to stop."

Of course, you can call Brewfan a dirty little man-whore or otherwise libel him as much as you want. But I assume you all realized that.

Posted by: Ace on December 30, 2005 04:20 PM

Not me again. Although he's quite right.

Posted by: ace on December 30, 2005 04:22 PM

Too much placating, Ace. Should be shorter. Here, I'll even write it for you:

"I apologize, you Dorothy-Guthrie fecking, flying sponge-wang pieces of Cheney chewing gum. I should have headlined my post '100% agree the President should wiretap moonbats. With a ballpeen 'wire' to the knees.'

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream on December 30, 2005 04:30 PM

An apology? I am very displeased.

Posted by: Dick Cheney's Cock on December 30, 2005 04:33 PM

Sh*t, Ace. If the story was fake, who cares if it was accurate?

Posted by: Dan Rather on December 30, 2005 04:35 PM

I got a chuckle out of your email address, Dan.

Posted by: Michael on December 30, 2005 04:57 PM

That you're not in control of your own unconscious bias is a sign you need a vacation. Make it a long and restful one.

Posted by: casual friday on December 30, 2005 08:38 PM
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