This is what I mean by the abnormal-ness of homosexuals defining themselves by a sex act.

The gay's universe is centered on a sexual preference. It ain't right. We've got this knucklehead, Andrew Sullivan, using a war to vent his frustration towards conservatives.

Wait a minute. . .Andrew Sullivan is gay?

Using Andrianna Sullington's own words against him? How gobsmackingly vile.

I'll bet Andy would willingly torture George Bush if he could get him to back down on the FMA. And then he'd justify his actions with hand-wringing shrieks about situational morality.

I'm beginning to think perhaps he might be, in fact, the easiest person to offend.

In fairness, the post from a year ago discusses how his views on the war were colored by Bush's endorsement of FMA, not his views on torture.

Scatch that last comment... loose shit on me.

Hey, at least I admit it.

Well, this finally played out just about as everyone expected (with an "I'm oh so offended by this vile suggestion" denial), only I thought he'd address it sooner.

I used to subscribe to The New Republic. Sullivan ruined it over homosexuality. He turned it from a mostly objective mostly centrist forum into a constant Democrat propaganda rag, shrillest about homosexuality, which quite obviously drove the change. The guy is a piece of shit.

Ace: you're not the only one who has brought up the FMA link

Like many, AS was the one who introduced me to the blogosphere (before it was called such). I saw him on a CSPAN program back in 2000-01 talking about his new web site, and it was through him and those he linked that I found many of the blogs I read today. I quit reading his stuff a couple of years ago for many of the same reasons others state.

Pity...

At least he respects himself. He's up to one.

I stopped reading Andrew Sullivan long ago when the gay marriage thing subverted and colored all of his subsequent writing. This accusation has him absolutely pegged.

Mark Shea's blog is quite good, actually, though perhaps of more interest to devout petitioners of the Saints than to devout practitioners of the "Ace of Spades Lifestyle".

...will someone PLEASE tell me why anyone at all should waste a second of their consciousness on some guy named Andrew Sullivan?

Andrew made gay Republicanism relevant, that's why. I used to send Sullivan links to people in online arguments. He was quite an eloquent pundit.

Recently he's been more gay than Republican, which damages his relevancy, IMO. Gay, for a "perfectly normal and natural sexuality", sure does unduly color your politics. Almost as if politics are just as natural as sexuality, hmm....

Mark Shea's blog is quite good, actually, though perhaps of more interest to devout petitioners of the Saints than to devout practitioners of the "Ace of Spades Lifestyle".

Uh oh. I read both blogs regularly. I guess I'm not a sign of of contradiction as much as merely being a contradiction.

I gave up on him when he said that gay marraige was a more important issue in the 2004 elections than terrorism.
Andy has become a self-parody.

I don't mind his views on his sexual orientation until he trys to undermine the war. If the scum we are fighting wins where will sullivan be then. Every bit of freedom he has an openly gay man would disappear. Argue against the FMA shrilly if need be but to undermine the war effort over it?????

This post is worthless without a picture of Andy in a pink "Spitters are Quitters" tee shirt. After all, isn't that what gobsmacking really means?

> Uh oh. I read both blogs regularly.

Me too. Since I started reading Shea's site I find myself much less inclined to chastise my friends for their idolatrous Popery.

There's always a lot of Sullivan-bashing in the Right end of the blogosphere, particularly here at Ace of Spades. But why even read Sullivan? He's a waste of time. I haven't opened up his site in at least a year, and I don't plan on doing so any time soon.

Sullivan supported Kerry whose views on gay marriage were identical to Bush's. How can anyone be taken seriously when he's willing to back a dork for president just to dis Bush.

Bush's and Kerry's views are not the same. Kerry opposes the FMA and would appoint judges who would discover gay "marriage" in the Constitution and impose it. He would then wring his hands and say "Gee, I'm personally opposed, but the courts have spoken." That's precisely why Sullivan backed Kerry.

It is unfair to call Sullivan unprincipled. He has a principle. This is the clean, well-lit prison--albeit tastefully decorated--of One Idea.

If Bush only supported SSM, Sullivan would gladly eat barbecued terrorist off paper plates at a picnic on the White House lawn.

And ask for seconds.

It is probably not entirely fair to pin Sullivan's opposition to the war as it is actually being conducted to Bush's FMA position. If you were a regular reader, as I was, you would see that as soon as anything looked like it was going wrong in either the Afghan campaign or Iraq, Sullivan would start complaining about incompetence at the highest level. Then, something would go well and he would act like he had never faltered.
I can recall his complaining about bad strategy days before Kabul fell and complaining about incompetence back when Peter Arnett was predicting defeat for Allied troops. He was right there pinning blame for looting and the stolen antiquities in the days following the fall of Baghdad.
Years from now, when Iraq is stable and the insurgents are a mere memory, Sullivan will claim to have been solid along. If we withdraw and disaster results, he will claim to have been prescient in his criticism.

At least he didn't say gob-smacking this time. Just "deeply offensive". Is that how they talk at Oxford? Who talks this way? Queen Elizabeth? Can't he just tell them to PISS OFF?

Not a word of this with respect to my motives is true; and all of it is deeply offensive. . . .

Sweet Jeebus, you earning a plug farkin' nickel for your lately tirades is the offensive thing going on here, Sully. Go suck Galloway cock.

"Hi honey, how was your day?"

"Deeply disturbing."

"Oh sorry. Fuck off."

Andrew Sullivan and his darker half darker the then the darker half he is now