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November 18, 2005

New Documents Link Saddam To Al Qaeda?

Steven Hayes is working on what would be, were our media not so hoplessly partisan, a major story:

Recently discovered Iraqi documents now being translated by U.S. intelligence analysts indicate that Saddam Hussein's government made extensive plans to hide Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 - and had deep ties to al Qaida before the 9/11 attacks.

The explosive evidence was discovered among "millions of pages of documents" unearthed by the Iraq Survey Group weapons search team, reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes.

In the magazine's Nov. 21 issue, Hayes reveals that the document cache now being examined contains "a thick stew of reports and findings from a variety of [Iraqi] intelligence agencies and military units."

Though the Pentagon has so far declined to make the bombshell papers public, Hayes managed to obtain a list of titles on the reports.

...

Still other reports suggest that Iraq's ties to al Qaida were far deeper than previously known, featuring headlines like:

• Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government (Nov. 2000)

...

• Possible al Qaeda Terror Members in Iraq

...

• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] report on Taliban-Iraq Connections Claims

• Money Transfers from Iraq to Afghanistan

While the document titles sound stunning enough to turn the Iraq war debate on its head, Hayes cautions that it's hard to know for certain until the full text is available.

...

Hayes also notes that an additional treasure trove of evidence on Saddam Hussein's support for al Qaida may be lost forever.

"When David Kay ran the Iraq Survey Group searching for weapons of mass destruction, he instructed his team to ignore anything not directly related to the regime's WMD efforts," he reports.

"As a consequence, documents describing the regime's training and financing of terrorists were labeled 'No Intelligence Value' and often discarded, according to two sources."

Thanks to Mark.


posted by Ace at 09:26 AM
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Too bad Hayes got 'em from Lucy Al Ramirez

Posted by: sentinel on November 18, 2005 09:32 AM

"The Connection" (Hayes' book) is well worth a look if anyone was thinking of checking it out. It's largely a "where there's smoke, there must be fire" kind of exercise, but makes some solid points.

I look forward to seeing this under-reported in the media.

Posted by: RDub on November 18, 2005 09:33 AM

Wha?

Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda may have had connections?

Well, that must be new information.

Posted by: Rocketeer on November 18, 2005 09:44 AM

Alas, Hayes could tell the world that water is wet and no one would listen anymore. Remember, he and his rag are just Neocon tools searching for any evidence at all to support something WE ALL KNOW isn't true.

Give it up, the meme won. Saddam was closer to Carrot Top than to Al Qaeda.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

P.S. Sigh. . .

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 18, 2005 09:46 AM

Remember that we finally found proof of the Wanasee Conference (final solution planning) in a drawer at the labor department seval years after the end of WWII.

There are millions of untranslated documents that may contain information like this. (Bureaucracies run on paper). The democratic "Bush lied" push has always gambled that any evidence would be found after the election.

I just hope they are wrong.

Posted by: monkeyboy on November 18, 2005 09:48 AM
Posted by: ron "the second" reagan on November 18, 2005 09:49 AM

I also heard there was no way Al Qaeda and Saddam would have worked together, several reports say that Saddam has chronic onion breath, and translated Taliban cafeteria documents repeatedly indicate that Bin Laden "totally hates onions".

Posted by: Tom on November 18, 2005 10:31 AM

In order for Saddam to have been in bed with Al Qaeda, he'd have be some sort of self-serving prick. Anyone in their right mind knows he's all about the people. The guy's practically a saint.

We right wingers need to quit trying to create fact out of feces in order to justify our own self-serving beliefs.

Grenade suppository anyone?

Posted by: compos mentis on November 18, 2005 11:00 AM

Speaking of Al Qaeda: Zarqawi: Jordan Bombings 'Oops, Our bad.'

Al Qaeda in Iraq's leader Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi said in an Internet audiotape on Friday that the group did not intend to target Muslim wedding parties in deadly bomb attacks in Jordan last week.

"We ask God to have mercy on the Muslims, who we did not intend to target, even if they were in hotels which are centers of immorality," the voice on the tape said.

Posted by: V the K on November 18, 2005 12:13 PM

group did not intend to target Muslim wedding parties in deadly bomb attacks in Jordan last week.

Thus bolstering my contention that it was in fact a hit on the PA general. If they wanted to attack immorality, all they needed to do was go to hollywood.

Posted by: Purple Avenger on November 18, 2005 12:21 PM

Coming soon to a moonbat website near you ...

Hayes LIED! Ace sighed!

Posted by: Kirk on November 18, 2005 06:27 PM

addam Hussein's government made extensive plans to hide Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion in March 2003

riiight. I don't want to cause you any pain or embarassment ace. Really.

But Iraq didn't have any fickung weapons of mass destruction to hide before the US invasion in March 2003, you fickung raterd.

Posted by: alistair on November 18, 2005 07:32 PM

Grasp.... Grasp...

Grasp Grasp...

Nothing there but straws!

GRASP GRASP...

Damn more straws...

Come on Ace I thought you were intelligent. Everyone knows there was no connections to Al Qaeda or WMD.

I'm sorry even if there were *documents* found they were probably forged.... kinda like... *hint hint* the Niger document?

Posted by: AlanB on November 19, 2005 12:48 AM

I know, I know. It was kinda silly to use only one document to base a whole war upon. If only there was more than one piece of evidence besides a forged receipt to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Posted by: joeindc44 on November 19, 2005 12:58 AM

Like the 50+ billion barrels of oil in Iraq?

The profits this administration and their Masters, big corporations, are making from this war?

The ideological mentality of the Right?

Posted by: AlanB on November 19, 2005 11:16 AM

These dumb fucking leftist sheep will never get it through their indoctrinated brainwashed skulls that there were WMD in Iraq after the first Gulf War.

Reasoned discourse doesn't work.

Long listings of links doesn't work.

Showing them past reports of the very people who now contradict themselves by denying what they avowed earlier doesn't work.

Trimming it down to catchy slogans like their Commie masters have done doesn't work.

It has officially become a religion, and Dubya is the Satan in their New-Age pantheon. There is no logic, only faith and belief, damned be any evidence to the contrary because it is heresy and blasphemy.

Posted by: Sue Dohnim on November 19, 2005 12:00 PM

Not exactly, Sue...

Obviously, there were WMD left in Iraq after the first GW. They were all gone by 1995 at the very latest. Ritter was right.

What the wingnut straw-graspers don't get, is that the absence of WMD in 2002 is the question. And their existence in 1992 doesn't get them off the hook.

Posted by: on November 23, 2005 04:01 AM

Not exactly, Sue...

Obviously, there were WMD left in Iraq after the first GW. They were all gone by 1995 at the very latest. Ritter was right.

What the wingnut straw-graspers don't get, is that the absence of WMD in 2002 is the question. And their existence in 1992 doesn't get them off the hook.

Posted by: alistair on November 23, 2005 04:01 AM

i>They were all gone by 1995 at the very latest.

And we know this how? As Sue said, the Clinton administration in 1998 and 1999 certainly didn't believe this.

Posted by: geoff on November 23, 2005 04:08 AM
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