Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com


Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Jay Guevara 2025
Jim Sunk New Dawn 2025
Jewells45 2025
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021

Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups

TBD





















« Giant Frickin' Apes! | Main | Confidence In European Union Crashes To Historic Lows »
November 08, 2005

General Vallely (Ret'd): Wilson Outed His Wife To Me Three Times In 2002

Sounds like a witness in Libby's trial to me... to prove the non-materiality of the alleged lies:

A retired Army general says the man at the center of the CIA leak controversy, Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, revealed his wife Valerie Plame's employment with the agency in a casual conversation more than a year before she allegedly was "outed" by the White House through a columnist.

Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely told WorldNetDaily that Wilson mentioned Plame's status as a CIA employee over the course of at least three, possibly five, conversations in 2002 in the Fox News Channel's "green room" in Washington, D.C., as they waited to appear on air as analysts.

Strata-Sphere has found at least four occasions when Vallely and Wilson were guests on Fox at about the same time.


posted by Ace at 01:58 PM
Comments



Valerie Plame worked for the CIA?!?

Huh.

BTW, dunno if you caught Drudge. . . sounds like there might be a chance that *somebody* in Congress is unable to differentiate between "good leaks" and "bad leaks," and instead just sees "leaks."

Whaddya know-- classified info might actually be. . . CLASSIFIED!

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 8, 2005 02:08 PM

Ahh.. World Net Daily, great source.

Kinda Like the National Enquirer for bedwetters.

Posted by: X. on November 8, 2005 02:17 PM

Oh, Tubinoooooooo.

Posted by: JackStraw on November 8, 2005 02:17 PM

Vallely was on Hannity's show yesterday too. Said he'd be happy to testify under oath.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 8, 2005 02:42 PM

Nice try - you can't distract from Libby's indictment!

I'l put my hands over my ears and say LALALALALALALALALALA now...

Posted by: The Dying Hopes of an Increasingly Unhinged Left on November 8, 2005 02:52 PM

Hmmm ... a battle royal of trustworthiness and political credibility, huh? Sounds interesting.

"In the black (ops) corner, weighing in with years of actual battlefield and intelligence experience ... General Paul Vallely!

... and in the (Commie-symp) red corner, weighing in with a pink-diaper-baby wife who's employed by a seditionist government agency actively campaigning against a sitting President during wartime ... (Pot) Smokin' Joe Wilson!"

Frankly, I like the General's odds in this one.

Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on November 8, 2005 02:53 PM

I don't want to seem petty towards the General here, but isn't this something he could have maybe mentioned, I don't know, a YEAR AGO!?

Posted by: Tony B on November 8, 2005 02:54 PM

TonyB, are you questioning the timing?

Seriously, though, that's a valid point. Mentioning this earlier would have been really, really helpful.

Posted by: utron on November 8, 2005 02:58 PM

I figure this is a good time to point out that there is a defense contained with the IIPA, "It is contained in Section 422 (of Title 50, U.S. Code), and it provides that an accused leaker is in the clear if, sometime before the leak, "the United States ha[s] publicly acknowledged or revealed" the covert agent's "intelligence relationship to the United States[.]"

It sort of fits in with Wilson's loose lips as well.

However, someone else had earlier pointed out that Josh Marshal had wished it weren't so, so I am countering with this link. I was going to link to my ferret, but its been down in the dumps ever since the Wash Post outed our black ops jails.

Posted by: joeindc44 on November 8, 2005 02:59 PM

but its been down in the dumps ever since the Wash Post outed our black ops jails.

But Drudge says they're going after the leakers.

Posted by: geoff on November 8, 2005 03:04 PM
But Drudge says they're going after the leakers.

Bring it on. Imagine months and months of reminders of govt secrecy, to hide a policy that our president denies even exists.

It won't take long before the GOP realizes they don't really want a debate on torture, or on some right to preserve secret gulags.

Wasn't it just a few months ago that there was OUTRAGE that Amnesty International used the word GULAG about Gitmo?

And now we're supposed to switch from denying the existence, to not only accepting it, but being outraged at this non-news being made official by leaks?

Honestly, who can keep up?

Posted by: tubino on November 9, 2005 11:24 AM
TonyB, are you questioning the timing?

Seriously, though, that's a valid point. Mentioning this earlier would have been really, really helpful.

Gee, ya think? And not just ONE year ago, but two.

Of course, if we're going to play THAT game, then why didn't Bush get the truth from Rove TWO years ago? And from Cheney? Ari Fleischer? Libby?

Have you all forgotten that your president confirmed that his staff had not leaked? Libby, technically, reports to Bush as well as to Cheney, BTW.

Wouldn't it have been helpful if they had told the truth then?

Or maybe they did -- but then Bush has been lying for two years.

Anyway, I think these folks who suddenly found their repressed memories can still testify to the FBI. Who can then have a chat with Victor Davis Hanson.

Anyone ready to place a bet? I'm betting these new slimers will never offer their testimony to the FBI or Fitzgerald. If they were willing, they would have done it TWO YEARS AGO, and Fitz could have subpoenaed Hanson and the rest.

Posted by: tubino on November 9, 2005 11:37 AM

Everyone is a liar EXCEPT for Wilson.
Wilson's story is unraveling like a loose thread on a wool sweater, but that's only the rightwingnut smear machine working with the biased corporate media like the NYT.

Posted by: Toobeano on November 9, 2005 07:58 PM

Vallely is a lying sack of crap.

Posted by: Hesiod on November 10, 2005 09:31 AM

Yes! Media Matters! There’s an unimpeachable source.

I particularly like the part where Joe Wilson calls somebody a liar.


Irony is so, ironic.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 10, 2005 09:42 AM
Post a comment
Name:


Email Address:


URL:


Comments:


Remember info?








Now Available!
The Deplorable Gourmet
A Horde-sourced Cookbook
[All profits go to charity]
Top Headlines
This isn't Christmas Eve fare, and I thought about waiting until the 26th to post it, but supposedly an amateur detective has solved the Zodiac killer mystery. And the horrific Black Dahlia killing. He says it's the same person! I always thought of them as very far apart in time but I think Black Dahlia was mid-fifties (nope, 1947) mid and the Zodiac murders began in 1968 so it's possible it's the same killer.

The killer, if it's the same man, would have been in his 20s when he killed the Black Dahlia and his 40s when he did the Zodiac murders. Possible.

A little caveat: I saw someone snark on Reddit, "The Zodiac case gets solved more often than Wordle." There are a ton of coincidences here, supposedly, like a Zodiac cipher being solved by the name "Elizabeth." Elizabeth Short was the name of the so-called Black Dahlia.

If you don't know about the Black Dahlia, don't look it up. Just accept that it's grisly on the level of Jack the Ripper.

Yes, the named suspect resembles the police sketch of Zodiac.

Here's a podcast with the amateur sleuth who claims he cracked the Zodiac.
Daily Mail article.
Link to get around the LA Times' paywall for their article.
CJN podcast 1400 copy.jpg
Podcast: The great Trump fleet? The economy is solid, Somalia's corrosive effect on America, Merry Christmas, and more!
Former Republican liberal Ben Sasse announces that he has stage IV metastasized pancreatic cancer: "I'm gonna die"
It's not just a "death sentence," as he says, but a rapidly coming one. I hope he can put his affairs in order and make sure his family is in a good as a position as they can be.
Brown killer takes the coward's way out. Naturally.
Still not identified, for some reason.
Per Fox 25 Boston, the killer was a non-citizen permanent legal resident
It continues to be strange that the police are so protective of his identity.
CJN podcast 1400 copy.jpg
Podcast: Will Ukraine be a flashpoint for a Korean conflict, Trump's intemperate Reiner comments, it's the economy stupid! the Monroe/Trump Doctrine, Bondi, Brown, MIT, and more!
Fearful French cancel NYE concert on Champs-Élysées as migrant violence grows
The time is now! France must fight for its culture! [CBD]
Megyn Kelly finally calls out Candace Owens
Whoops, I meant she bravely attacks Sydney Sweeney for "bending the knee." (Sweeney put out a very empty PR statement saying "I'm against hate." Whoop-de-doo.)
Megyn Kelly claims she doesn't want to call people out on the right when asked about Candace Owens but then has no compunctions at all about calling people out on the right.
As long as they're not Candace Owens. Strangely, she seems blind and deaf to anything Candace Owens says. That's why this woman calls her "Megyn Keller."
She's now asking her pay-pigs in Pakistan how they think she should address the Candace Owens situation, and if they think this is really all about Israel and the Jews.
CJN podcast 1400 copy.jpg
Podcast: Pete Hegseth is everything the left hates...and we love! Illinois is the next flashpoint for federal supremacy with regard to our borders, Trump's communication leaves something to be desired, and more!
I have happily forgotten what Milo Yiannopoulos sounds like, but I still enjoyed this impression from from Ami Kozak.
More revelations about the least-sexy broken relationship in media history
I'd wanted to review Parts 2, 3, and 4 of Ryan Lizza's revenge posts about Olivia Nuzzi, but they're all paywalled. I thought about briefly subscribing to get at them, but then I read this in Part 2:
Remember the bamboo from Part 1?

Do I ever! It's all I remember!
Well, bamboo is actually a type of grass, and underground, it's all connected in a sprawling network, just like the parts of this story I never wanted to tell. I wish I hadn't been put in this position, that I didn't have to write about any of this, that I didn't have to subject myself or my loved ones to embarrassment and further loss of privacy.

We're back to the fucking bamboo. Guys, I don't think I can pay for bamboo ruminations.
I think he added that because he was embarrassed about all the bamboo imagery from Part 1. He's justifying his twin obsessions: His ex, and bamboo. Which is not a tree but a kind of grass, he'll have you know.
Olivia Nuzzi's crappy Sex and the City fanfic book isn't selling, says CNN (and CNN seems pretty pleased about that)
On Tuesday, the book arrived in stores. At lunchtime, in the Midtown Manhattan nexus of media and publishing, interest in Nuzzi's story seemed more muted. The Barnes and Noble on Fifth Avenue had seven copies tucked into a "New & Notable" rack next to the escalator, below Malala Yousafzai's "Finding My Way." Not many had sold so far, a store employee said.

A few blocks uptown, at a branch of the local independent chain McNally Jackson Books, a few volumes lay on a table of new and noteworthy nonfiction near the front of the store. No one was lining up to get them, or even browsing. Bookseller Alex Howe told CNN around 3 p.m. that though the store had procured "several dozen" copies, not a single one had yet sold -- a figure he said was surprising, considering how many people in media and publishing work in the area.

"We ordered a lot and so far, people have not been beating down the door," Howe said. "I'm not sure where we're gonna put them because right now, supply is outpacing demand." (A manager at McNally Jackson noted that Howe was speaking only in a personal capacity, not as a representative of the store.)

She trashes Ryan Lizza for his "Revenge Porn" here. Emily Jashinsky says that when the Bulwark's gay grifter Tim Miller asked why she didn't report on the (alleged) use of ketamine by RFKJr., she broke down in tears and asked to end the interview.
Canada Euthanized a Record 16.4K People Last Year
Aktion T4, now with Poutine! [CBD]
Recent Comments
C. Tarlson: "Anyone who opposes the jihadist takeover of the We ..."

rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u]: "maybe he went to prison under a fake name during t ..."

mindful webworker - jingle them bells: "Merry Mindful Christmas, y'all. 🎄Heap o ..."

vmom deport deport deport: "Merry Christmas, dear dread Horde! ..."

ace: "also he used fake names maybe he went to prison ..."

ace: ">>It's very possible it's him. The other thing tha ..."

Tom Servo: "During war, men get into positions a lot earlier t ..."

Case: "@94 Everything Paul McCartney ever touched....... ..."

Opinion fact: "Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at ..."

Puddleglum at work: "[i]116 Favorite serial killer movie was the fictit ..."

rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u]: "right but i'm saying is that all known as document ..."

Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy[/i]: "Checked the IMDB.com and in The Many Loves of Dobi ..."

Bloggers in Arms
Some Humorous Asides
Archives