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November 08, 2005
General Vallely (Ret'd): Wilson Outed His Wife To Me Three Times In 2002Sounds like a witness in Libby's trial to me... to prove the non-materiality of the alleged lies: A retired Army general says the man at the center of the CIA leak controversy, Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, revealed his wife Valerie Plame's employment with the agency in a casual conversation more than a year before she allegedly was "outed" by the White House through a columnist. posted by Ace at 01:58 PM
CommentsValerie Plame worked for the CIA?!? Huh. BTW, dunno if you caught Drudge. . . sounds like there might be a chance that *somebody* in Congress is unable to differentiate between "good leaks" and "bad leaks," and instead just sees "leaks." Whaddya know-- classified info might actually be. . . CLASSIFIED! Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 8, 2005 02:08 PM
Ahh.. World Net Daily, great source. Kinda Like the National Enquirer for bedwetters. Posted by: X. on November 8, 2005 02:17 PM
Oh, Tubinoooooooo. Posted by: JackStraw on November 8, 2005 02:17 PM
Vallely was on Hannity's show yesterday too. Said he'd be happy to testify under oath. Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 8, 2005 02:42 PM
Nice try - you can't distract from Libby's indictment! I'l put my hands over my ears and say LALALALALALALALALALA now... Posted by: The Dying Hopes of an Increasingly Unhinged Left on November 8, 2005 02:52 PM
Hmmm ... a battle royal of trustworthiness and political credibility, huh? Sounds interesting. "In the black (ops) corner, weighing in with years of actual battlefield and intelligence experience ... General Paul Vallely! ... and in the (Commie-symp) red corner, weighing in with a pink-diaper-baby wife who's employed by a seditionist government agency actively campaigning against a sitting President during wartime ... (Pot) Smokin' Joe Wilson!" Frankly, I like the General's odds in this one. Posted by: 12" Saturday Night on November 8, 2005 02:53 PM
I don't want to seem petty towards the General here, but isn't this something he could have maybe mentioned, I don't know, a YEAR AGO!? Posted by: Tony B on November 8, 2005 02:54 PM
TonyB, are you questioning the timing? Seriously, though, that's a valid point. Mentioning this earlier would have been really, really helpful. Posted by: utron on November 8, 2005 02:58 PM
I figure this is a good time to point out that there is a defense contained with the IIPA, "It is contained in Section 422 (of Title 50, U.S. Code), and it provides that an accused leaker is in the clear if, sometime before the leak, "the United States ha[s] publicly acknowledged or revealed" the covert agent's "intelligence relationship to the United States[.]" It sort of fits in with Wilson's loose lips as well. However, someone else had earlier pointed out that Josh Marshal had wished it weren't so, so I am countering with this link. I was going to link to my ferret, but its been down in the dumps ever since the Wash Post outed our black ops jails. Posted by: joeindc44 on November 8, 2005 02:59 PM
but its been down in the dumps ever since the Wash Post outed our black ops jails. But Drudge says they're going after the leakers. Posted by: geoff on November 8, 2005 03:04 PM
But Drudge says they're going after the leakers. Bring it on. Imagine months and months of reminders of govt secrecy, to hide a policy that our president denies even exists. It won't take long before the GOP realizes they don't really want a debate on torture, or on some right to preserve secret gulags. Wasn't it just a few months ago that there was OUTRAGE that Amnesty International used the word GULAG about Gitmo? And now we're supposed to switch from denying the existence, to not only accepting it, but being outraged at this non-news being made official by leaks? Honestly, who can keep up? Posted by: tubino on November 9, 2005 11:24 AM
TonyB, are you questioning the timing? Gee, ya think? And not just ONE year ago, but two. Of course, if we're going to play THAT game, then why didn't Bush get the truth from Rove TWO years ago? And from Cheney? Ari Fleischer? Libby? Have you all forgotten that your president confirmed that his staff had not leaked? Libby, technically, reports to Bush as well as to Cheney, BTW. Wouldn't it have been helpful if they had told the truth then? Or maybe they did -- but then Bush has been lying for two years. Anyway, I think these folks who suddenly found their repressed memories can still testify to the FBI. Who can then have a chat with Victor Davis Hanson. Anyone ready to place a bet? I'm betting these new slimers will never offer their testimony to the FBI or Fitzgerald. If they were willing, they would have done it TWO YEARS AGO, and Fitz could have subpoenaed Hanson and the rest. Posted by: tubino on November 9, 2005 11:37 AM
Everyone is a liar EXCEPT for Wilson. Posted by: Toobeano on November 9, 2005 07:58 PM
Vallely is a lying sack of crap. Posted by: Hesiod on November 10, 2005 09:31 AM
Yes! Media Matters! There’s an unimpeachable source. I particularly like the part where Joe Wilson calls somebody a liar.
Posted by: Dave in Texas on November 10, 2005 09:42 AM
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