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The Excitable One: Having Gay Partner Listed As "Guest" At Dinner Party Equivalent Of Rosa Parks' Being Told To Give Up Seat For A White ManTruly, it's Selma all over again: The White House officially regards the Poe-Cheney partnership as no more solid or worthy of recognition than Jenna's latest boyfriend. Here's how the guest list appeared for last night's royal state dinner: And from whose perspective would it be a "trivial slight"? Bull Connor's? Rosa Parks' crusade began over a "trivial slight"? News to me. I know a lot of people who think it was kind of a big deal. Andrew Sullivan The Martin Luther King, Jr. of The Digital Age, except with beagles and better-defined glutes. What a silly bitch. I don't mean to be cruel, but I think we have to start to ask: Has Andrew Sullivan actually become brain-damaged from all that Ecstacy?
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Commentsi think you are secretly gay Posted by: GOP = hypocrites on November 3, 2005 02:04 PM
The Martin Luther King, Jr. of The Digital Age You joke, but I bet that's not far from how he sees himself. Not reported: Cheney and Poe had to fight off attack dogs and stagger past water cannons just to get to the White House front door. Posted by: Allah on November 3, 2005 02:07 PM
i think you are secretly gay I take issue with the word "secretly." Homo. Posted by: ace on November 3, 2005 02:10 PM
So instead of celebrating the fact that Cheney and her partner are invited openly to a White House function, Sully is outraged that they aren't treated as a married couple. Like the administration's policy on gay marriage has suddenly been unveiled through this subtle slight. If only he had known this policy earlier, he could have changed his vote to Kerry. Oh wait, he did and he did. Posted by: geoff on November 3, 2005 02:16 PM
Look, if Hollywood has taught me anything, and I like to think it has, its that conservatives and military types-well, really anyone who is not big on the whole gay thing- are really the gay ones. Beavis once said that the whole point of independent films is to make the suburbs look bad. Well, film like American Beauty also to point out that the only non-gay people are the openly gay. Posted by: joeindc44 on November 3, 2005 02:17 PM
dammit, I wish there was a way to edit my half assed comments Posted by: joeindc44 on November 3, 2005 02:18 PM
Look at how pathetic this has gotten: Andy is actually at the point where he's looking up White House seating arrangements to find something new to get (publicly!) offended about. The guy is a "drama queen" in every sense of the word. This is like the blogging equivalent of a stalker going through his target's garbage cans in the middle of the night looking for discarded panties. Posted by: Eric Spratling on November 3, 2005 02:18 PM
Well said, Joe. As for geoff's point about Mary Cheney being invited to the WH in the first place, I'm sure Sully would wave that off as something Bush had to do because of who her father is. But now I'm wondering: has the White House invited any openly gay politicos/celebrities to state dinners in the past who weren't related to someone in the administration? There's probably a list of guests out there somewhere that we could check. Posted by: Allah on November 3, 2005 02:21 PM
Something's definitely up with Sully. The contrast in quality between his blogspews and the stuff he was writing not that long ago for TNR is downright painful. However, I don't think we can blame it on the E. That stuff gives you an upbeat, positive outlook; everyone you meet seems like your friend. Or so I'm told. "Secretly gay"? With that new Larry the Cable Guy beefcake in the sidebar, you might as well put a pink triangle on the Ace O' Spades logo. Posted by: utron on November 3, 2005 02:22 PM
do I make an issue out of your hobbies, dude? Posted by: ace on November 3, 2005 02:23 PM
Not that there's anything wrong with that! Posted by: zetetic on November 3, 2005 02:27 PM
I can't tell that the two women are married but this seems a stretch to get worked up about. They don't have the same last names, and they're both women. So the omission of "guest" would have to most people--i.e., those who don't obsess over who is sleeping with whom--would likely not have assumed any relationship at all. For example, is this couple married? Ms. Elizabeth L. Cheney, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs, Department of State Beats me. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on November 3, 2005 02:28 PM
Hobby? I thought you were only experimenting. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 02:30 PM
What do you expect from the Vice President of torture, the man who approved of Abu Ghraib? Posted by: Gaylord Ravenal on November 3, 2005 02:30 PM
I would expect that if he really was the vice president of torture he would have gotten his kid and her lover better seats. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 02:34 PM
Before reading the comments today, I didnt know or think of the cable guy ad as beefcake. Posted by: Royal Oak on November 3, 2005 02:35 PM
By the way, re: Sullivan's possible brain damage, as of two days ago he's on record that the U.S. has become "a rogue state." Posted by: Allah on November 3, 2005 02:36 PM
Guys who like to stick their weiners inother dude's butts are better than MLK and Jesus Christ combined. It's a fact, you theocons. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 02:36 PM
I need to go on record that I highly approve of beagles. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 02:36 PM
Guys who like to stick their weiners inother dude's butts are better than MLK and Jesus Christ combined. It's a fact, you theocons. Uh, thanks for setting us straight. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 02:38 PM
Married couples need no "(guest)" attached to their spouse's name. It's a trivial slight, of course. But so, from one perspective, is a bus seat.So, does this mean when he dies, he's going to have a 7 HOUR FUNERAL? That thing was so long, it was really unbelievable. I swear, all news has stopped in Detroit since her death. EVen today it's still on the front page. Lordy. Posted by: carin on November 3, 2005 02:38 PM
Let's not get distracted from the real issue, people. Who is this "Henry Hager" fucker? I know absolutely nothing about him except that he's not good enough for Jenna. He'd better think carefully before he gets too comfortable with the idea of being her "guest" in the future... Posted by: Alex on November 3, 2005 02:42 PM
Bush = Bull Connor Sully and any other dude who craves man-love is better than Rosa Parks, Christ and MKL. You theocons make me sick! Posted by: on November 3, 2005 02:55 PM
Who is this "Henry Hager" fucker?The Naked Spiderman guy, I think. Cause you can never have too many Naked Spidermen at a state dinner. Posted by: someone on November 3, 2005 03:06 PM
Cause you can never have too many Naked Spidermen at a state dinner. Best method of discouraging a terrorist attack ever. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 03:08 PM
Great post! Really agree with you! Andrew Sullivan has ecstacy-related dementia! Posted by: Natural Male Enhancement on November 3, 2005 03:14 PM
...as of two days ago he's on record that the U.S. has become "a rogue state."
You're kidding, right? Posted by: The Ugly American on November 3, 2005 03:18 PM
You're kidding, right? Posted by: Allah on November 3, 2005 03:21 PM
Allah = Hitler Posted by: on November 3, 2005 03:34 PM
Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick. I really must laugh when queers like Sullivan try to compare our “struggle” to the civil rights movement. Oh yes...drag queens, diesel dykes and circuit party boys seeking the right to marry whilst riding a Wet Lube "pride" parade float on the taxpayers dime is just the same as little black girls wanting the right to pray in church without getting blown to bits. Silly bitch, is right. I hate him. Posted by: The Ugly American on November 3, 2005 03:48 PM
Mary Cheney and Heather Poe's relationship has been pretty invisible. But if that's perceived as a problem, then the blame falls squarely on the media. Dick Cheney sticks up for his daughter. It's called "family values". Mary chose Heather, and so Heather is part of the family. She's almost always there at the big events where the VP's family is expected to attend. The media just never identifies her. If Andrew Sullivan wants to go on a big crusade about how Mary and Heather's relationship is being seen as second-class, he should blame the media, not the White House. This has been the most tolerant administration we have ever had in this country. Posted by: SJKevin on November 3, 2005 03:50 PM
If he's referring to the White House dinner list, all non-spouses were listed as guests. Watch what you say about Andrew. I suggested his meds were interfering with his thought processes and got a very nasty email. I thought I was being kind and giving him an out instead of saying flat out that's he's gone batty. I'm sure the protocol is correct, but the guest list went like this: I always thought Mrs. Mary Smith meant that John was either room temp. or they were divorced. Posted by: tefta on November 3, 2005 04:12 PM
The Ugly American: very well said. Needs to said more often. Posted by: Muslihoon on November 3, 2005 04:13 PM
Allah = Hitler Yes, you can really see the resemblance when Ace gives Allah a 'dirty Adolph.' Posted by: on November 3, 2005 04:52 PM
Well, people are generally invited by name. Ask Miss Manners (Judith something, I can't remember her real name) about this hideous invention. Married couples can be invited as Mr. and Mrs. John Smith or Ms. Mary Smith Sending an invite as Mr. Single Man and Guest is crass. If the person is attached, you find out the name and give them an invite: Or send invites under separate cover. I'm sure the White House can afford the postage. Widows may use their husbands first names still, if they wish. Divorcees have to use their own first name is they want to use the Mrs. Posted by: meep on November 3, 2005 04:54 PM
Sending an invite as Mr. Single Man and Guest is crass. Does the guest list (referenced here) necessarily reflect the form of address on the invitation? Posted by: geoff on November 3, 2005 05:20 PM
The invitation would go out as Mr. Ace of Spades and guest. When rspv'd., the seating chart, and place settings would have the individuals's name and no mention of guest, etc. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 05:35 PM
What's really ironic is that Sullivan and his ideological allies in the "push gay marriage through the courts" gang did more to set gay rights back than anyone in the Bush administration. San Francisco's mayor and the Massachusetts legislature's activism pissed off a lot of voters who signed petitions that put anti-gay marriage legislation on the ballots last year. His answer? To go even more moonbat crazy on the need for activism lately. Posted by: Slublog on November 3, 2005 05:53 PM
I hate to think what Andrew Sullivan's exes must all have endured--the man simply has no 'lukewarm' valve--he's either scalding hot or freezing cold. There's just no getting out of a relationship with a man like that on a 'lets be friends' level--I suspect Sullivan's not on speaking terms with a single old boyfriend. And whether or not Sullivan ever decides to settle down for good with the current boyfriend (which, by MA law, he can do if he cares to), he's certainly not about to marry any particular idea and settle down with it any time soon, or accept responsibility for any idea after he's fallen out of love with it--the man's an intellectual Casanova. It's one thing to be a genuine iconoclast like Sullivan's hero Orwell--that is, to have consistent, strong personal beliefs which simply don't fit neatly into any one prepackaged ideology. It's one thing to have one major life-changing 'conversion' experience a la Christopher Hitchens. It's another thing entirely to exist with one's beliefs in a constant, unexplained, unrestrained, and uninterrogated state of flux. Sullivan's hardly politically consistent--he reliably self-defines as conservative, but seems to expect the term to bend to his own ever-changing definition--for Sullivan, 'conservative' (like 'Catholic') is defined as 'wherever and whatever Andrew Sullivan now is'. Sullivan isn't even especially consistent on the gay marriage/gay rights issue--another of Sullivan's personal heroes is Reagan, for whose gay-friendly bonafides one searches in vain--and who has even been blamed for the slow initial response to AIDS, a far worse sin on that score than Bush has ever even been accused of. And could Sullivan ever have argued with a straight face that his once-beloved Bush was likely to do any better, or any other than he, in fact, did with regards to the FMA, gay rights, and gay marriage? Hardly--so why the sudden outrage? Or for that matter the initial support? but Sullivan's avowed beliefs 'bloweth where (they) listeth, and no man knoweth whence (they) cometh and whither (they) goeth.' Which could even be a reasonable position for an inveterate skeptic, perhaps--but Sullivan's never skeptical--not about his own beliefs, at least--in the moment, he's always absolutely sure of what he believes at that moment. Not to mention dripping with moralistic disdain and condescension for anyone who dares to disagree with him, even if they're arguing the exact same position Sullivan himself was pushing just months earlier. Posted by: alex on November 3, 2005 06:00 PM
Give the poor guy a break. He's "catching" this month. Posted by: Sharkman on November 3, 2005 06:11 PM
Mary and Heather are Uncle Tom sellouts to Andy. Posted by: Uncle Jefe on November 3, 2005 06:20 PM
Is there anything quite so hysterical as as having a sphincter attack over the wording of a guest list? If this is the best Sully can do, I guess every irrational substantive butch he had is taken care of. Posted by: VRWC Agent on November 4, 2005 01:07 AM
Uhh, I meant "bitch." Of course the butches were taken care of. Geez! Posted by: VRWC Agent on November 4, 2005 01:09 AM
It's clear that Ace needs to flirt more with the women on this blog. Then those ugly rumours would never start. ;-) Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on November 4, 2005 01:16 AM
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