He always did have a little glint in his eye when he watched Kirk leaving a room.... It also explains why his Yeomen were always cute young guys. I mean, Kirk had Yeoman Rand and Picard had Troi and Beverly Crusher always near to hand (so to speak); even Archer had T'pol to feminize the bridge a bit. But Sulu? Man, that dude should have been captain of the N.C.C. Purple-Headed Warrior of Love.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I remember when he was a guest speaker when I was in college. But then, his brother taught there, so that's probably why we got him to come...

I also "came up dry" when I heard this story. Ahemm

Man... if DeForrest Kelly turns out to have been gay too, I predict a slew of "Bones! Oh my!" jokes.

So, I guess this means that out of everybody on the Enterprise, Sulu *really was* the one to "boldly go where no man has gone before."

I hesitate to call this "old," even though it was the worst-kept secret in Hollywood history. I mean, c'mon, OF COURSE Sulu was gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Man, kinda makes all the Howard Stern ribbing that much more funny.

I laughed at this quote: "It's more like a long, long walk through what began as a narrow corridor that starts to widen."

IIRC, that also describes Takei's. . . oh, never mind.

Good on ya, Sulu. I guess gay Star Trek fans finally got their gay crewmember. And it *wasn't* Walter Koenig. Huh.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

I know hindsight is 20/20 but I always thought that he was a bit flamboyant in his mannerisms and speech that had nothing to do with being Japanese.

Sulu? Gay?

I guess Noonan is right after all. The wheels really are coming off the trolley.

Phinn-- which Noonan would that be? Peggy, or KHAAAN!!! Noonan Singh?

Jeesh! All you had to do is look at the guy and know he was gay! Anyway, it's that time of year when some actor has to come out for gay pride somethingortheother.

Dave,

Ahem. That's Noonien Singh. Loose shit, fella. You lose 10 points off your Star Trek Geek Meter for that. And I don't care if you were trying to make a joke; there are proprieties to be observed.

Plus Peggy Noonan could kick Ricardo Montalban's ass.

Does this mean that they are going tohave to rename "The Trouble with Tribbles" to "No Trouble with Tribbing"?

Remember when Stern prank-called Sulu with someone pretending to be Ricardo Montelban?
Funny shit.

Oh, I'm sorry Monty, I didn't know we were collecting points any longer, I thought you had earned them all.

BTW, I haven't found a copy of the faux Montalban/Takei prank call yet (lots of dead links out there, bastards).

But I did find a soundboard with clips of Takei from Stern. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Oh, I'm sorry Monty, I didn't know we were collecting points any longer, I thought you had earned them all.

Was that a shot? By God, that felt like a shot! Were you here before me I would challenge you to fisticuffs! (While wearing Spock ears and a blue crewman's jersey, of course; as I said, there are proprieties to be observed.)

You seem to believe that a vast and comprehensive knowledge of Star Trek arcana just happens by accident rather than as the result of years and years of hard study. Sheesh.

Ha ha ha. . . hey, I like Star Trek. I just don't LIKE Star Trek.

In all seriousness, my roommate during sophomore year of college (not by choice) was a die-hard Trekkie (Trekker? Effer? Whatever). And by die-hard, I mean DIE HARD. Conventions, costumes, Bajoran earrings, you name it.

I still remember the night I came back from seeing Star Trek: Generations and laid out just how many logical holes were in that whole Nexus thing. He started yelling "THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEXUS!!!" like a madman, nearly getting violent as I ignored his ranting and continued to bash the movie.

Thankfully, I had half the women's basketball team with me to protect me from his pudgy Cheeto-stained fingers.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

From helmsman aboard the USS ENTERPRISE to catian of the USS EXELSIOR but captian JAMES TIBERIUS KIRK was helmsman aboard the USS FARIGUT

Now I know why that episode where he is fencing topless on the bridge made me feel sort of funny inside.

Now feel closer than ever to George; read his blog.

Okay, I see where Monty and Dave are steering this thread. I'll bite.

The whole problem with Star Trek and other sci-fi shows is time-travel. Warp speed I can deal with. Traveling back and forth in time is out of the question.

And transporting. Beam me up my ass. The transporter was just too much.

And shields, too. All spaceships have shields. But of course they have shields. How else are they going to defend against all the energy weapons.

That's why the new Battlestar Galactica and the short-lived Firefly is so good. No time travel. No transporters. And they use guns with good old fashioned metallic
projectiles.

No, Bart-- the new Battlestar Galactica is good because it has fantastic hot chicks in it. They could travel back in time faster than you can say "Voyagers! starring Jon-Erik Hexum and Meeno Peluce" and I'd still watch the show just to see Grace Park sopping wet.

Man, I *love* that show. . . best in years.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

I think there's a bunch of celebrities getting threatened with being outed, so their hands are being forced. I'm thinking of Sheryl Swoopes more than Sulu, though.

The best thing about (Boomer) Grace Park...

...they made many copies.

OT: Drudge is running his sirens on the Plame deal.

And so dies the myth of gay men having such fabulous taste. He's starring in Shaffer's ridiculous Equus? Gag me with a dog biscuit, Sulu. Mudd's Women had more literary impact and was far more tastefully written.

That whole thing with beaming. I never really understood that. Why have starships at all if you can just beam everywhere?

And yes, I think the new BSG is the best show on TV these days, and not because it has hot chicks in it (athough that is certainly a big plus). It's kind of like Black Hawk Down, only with FTL starships, cyborgs, fighter-pilot sluts, and Edward James Olmos playing a role that had better by-God win him an Emmy. One of the gripes about sci-fi is that it either goes too far to the "hardware" (ships, laser guns, and make-believe tech), or too far to the "human interest" stuff. BSG is doing pretty well at treading the line between the two, I think.

But I still think Babylon 5 is the gold standard for televised SF. It just doesn't get much better than that.

Monty: "But I still think Babylon 5 is the gold standard for televised SF. It just doesn't get much better than that."

If you pretend that the oh so terribly deep philosophical resolution of Into the Fire never happened, yes.

I signed on this ship to practice medicine, not to have my junk scattered back and forth across space by this gadget

Damnit, Sulu, I'm a doctor, not a homo!

Hey Darwin's Moustache,

I immediately thought of the fencing episode too. I remember watching that and thinking even as a kid that he had his shirt off way too much in that episode.

Beam Me Up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2049048.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3777589.stm

I still think Babylon 5 is the gold standard for televised SF.

Monty, we have nothing further to discuss.

Monty, 100 bonus points if you can tell me (and I know you can) what TV character said that to another when they were talking about the Three Stooges and Shemp.

Had to be Garibaldi.

You guys are a bunch of fags, but in a good way-- one that has absolutely nothing to do with "Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher" homoerotic posturing: "Can I steer the ship now, Captain Picard? Can I? Please?"
"Remember, say 'may I,' Wesley."

(Friggin gaywads, you probably pine for that '70s Buck Rogers disco motiff in your game rooms.).

Fox 2: Much earlier.

Takei's gay? Not a shocker. James Doohan gay? Not a chance.

I was FAR more upset when I learned that William Shatner is only 5'8". Discovering that your childhood hero is a pipsqueak makes a little part of you die inside.

George Takei is gay! W. C. Fields was an alcoholic! O. J. did it! Bring me my fan, Lucinda, I think I'm getting the vapors.

Dave, enjoyed your tale of Star Trek geekery but please tell us more about this intriguing character known as "half the women's basketball team"....

This does explain why Chekov looked so nervous all the time.

Hey, I'm 5'8" :^P I *like* having stars my height (it's one reason for watching WNBA).

As for Sulu, I have to take a different tack than Dogstar. Not so much, why now, but - why not earlier? He could have come out any time during the 80s and no trekkie would have minded. No-one has a vested interest in Sulu being straight; unlike Scotty, McCoy, maybe Spock, and definitely Kirk and Uhura.

Maybe the delay had to do with ST6. People would have wondered why he'd been hurriedly reassigned to another starship. Something to do with Christian Slater's character?

Was that a shot? By God, that felt like a shot! Were you here before me I would challenge you to fisticuffs! (While wearing Spock ears and a blue crewman's jersey, of course; as I said, there are proprieties to be observed.)

Fight me, Jimmy, Fight me!

Hey, I'm 5'8"

Yeah, but you're not my childhood hero so that's okay. Me, I don't like knowing that I'd have to wear flats to look up at Captain Kirk.

eah, but you're not my childhood hero so that's okay. Me, I don't like knowing that I'd have to wear flats to look up at Captain Kirk.

Assuming you have seen him lately, flats should be the least of the worries.

I'm just saying (and still looking youthfull, I might add).

Have you ever wondered why he alway sat so close to CHEKOV?