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October 24, 2005
Multicultural Murder-Cult: Honor Killings Come To BritainHere's the thing: if you're dedicated to the principle that all cultures and cultural practices are equally valuable (except if the cultural practice comes from an "oppressed" culture, in which case they're both equally valuable and more valuable at the same time), how the hell do you say that butchering women because they have sex or have been raped is, oh, what's the right phrase?, the skullfucked mayhem of primative retards? In the summer of 2004, Manna Begum was in love with Arash Ghorbani-Zarin, a young Iranian studying in the city of Oxford. Her Bangladeshi parents had arranged for her to be married, but she wanted nothing of it. I'm really having trouble reconciling the left's innumerable "Take Back the Night" vigils and Vagina Day street theatrics with their lack of furious condemnation for vile primativism like this. What is monstrous for a caucasian to even contemplate is apparently not even all that blameworthy for a non-caucasion to practice -- with full moral support from his family and cultural brethren. Thanks to RCL. At Least The British Have Their Priorities Straight: They've been reluctant to investigate lunatic "honor killings" of women, but their banks are phasing out piggy banks as giveaways and advertising images so as not to offend The Religion of Perpetual Outrage (TM). You know what else is offensive? Killing a woman because she doesn't want to marry you. Thanks to utron for that tip. posted by Ace at 05:02 PM
CommentsMeanwhile, the Llama Butchers have linked to a story reporting that British banks are phasing out piggy banks to avoid offending Muslim sensibilities. Apparently the Brits have decided that, rather than facing up to Muslim intimidation, they'll turn the other way and adopt the famous "Goatse position." More painful, but it avoids all that nasty confrontation. Posted by: utron on October 24, 2005 05:13 PM
That 'Take Back the Night' bullshit amazes me. In what country's history has it been perfectly safe for young women to walk around at night by themselves? And in P-Town, its the BOYS that were whisked away by strangers in a van and violated six ways to Sunday. Ladies can't 'take back' something they never had; and something tells me these particular women would be appalled at the actual law and order techniques which would be required to secure their safety. Wishing and marching and alarm buttons on poles doesn't make you safe; do you really want to know what makes you safe?? Guns, and male escorts, and men with guns. Posted by: lauraw on October 24, 2005 05:34 PM
do you really want to know what makes you safe?? Zero tolerance for violent crime would certainly help. Posted by: SJKevin on October 24, 2005 05:40 PM
Yeah, but of course that's not the point of those silly vigils; the point is to increase alienation from and suspicion of men and all things male, in some kind of weird psuedo-religious ceremony. Posted by: lauraw on October 24, 2005 05:42 PM
That's why I think women should take over the world, kill off 98% of the men, and keep the other 2% locked in cells where they only need be fed, watered, watch sports on TV and be taken out to procreate. I volunteer for the latter! Posted by: compos mentis on October 24, 2005 05:59 PM
And by water I mean beer. By sports I mean female jello with whipped cream wrestling. Posted by: compos mentis on October 24, 2005 06:03 PM
Oh, right. Like all you rednecks don't run around honor-killing your sister-wives. DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF HONOR! Posted by: Knemon on October 24, 2005 06:23 PM
Well, I for one don't see what all the outrage is about. I mean, in this case, the girl's male relatives left her alone, choosing instead to slaughter her husband. So, you know, I guess they should get some credit for their progressive and gender-sensitive approach to honor killing. Posted by: Sean M. on October 24, 2005 06:35 PM
More of this kind of sick shit is on the way from Europe. More and more Muslims are immigrating there, and fewer and fewer of them are making any attempt at assimilating. The European governments are far to busy accommodating their increasingly volatile Muslim populations to do anything to stop this trend. Look for a series of nasty civil wars in Europe in the next 50 years if this crap keeps up. Posted by: UGAdawg on October 24, 2005 06:44 PM
Life imitates Qo'noS. Posted by: tachyonshyggy on October 24, 2005 08:03 PM
The Jooos don't like pork either and they haven't asked to have banks stop handing out piggy banks. Of course, the Jooos own all of the banks so you wouldn't think we would have piggy banks to start with. Unless it is all part of the Zionist conspiracy. It makes my head spin. Welcome to Dhimmitude. Posted by: Dale on October 24, 2005 08:05 PM
More and more Muslims are immigrating there, and fewer and fewer of them are making any attempt at assimilating. Aw, c'mon, people said the same thing about the Irish and Italian immigrant waves in America. Posted by: Michael on October 24, 2005 08:06 PM
And when you have an insular immigrant community that perserveres through a couple of generations, like Chinatown in San Francisco, is that really a bad thing? IMHO, hell no. Chinatown is a major tourist attraction. I had one of the best meals of my life there. You can find this anywhere, like the Hindu neighborhood in Singapore is a tourist attraction, or Cuban areas of Miami and Tampa, or The Hill in St. Louis (Italian). Ethnicity by itself is not a bad thing. On the contrary, I think it enriches our lives. Posted by: Michael on October 24, 2005 08:14 PM
One of the best places I have ever lived was San Antonio. Whites are a minority -- it's basically a Mexican city. I loved it. There's nothing in my cultural background that equates to the Day of the Dead. And I developed a keen appreciation for Texas barbecue and tortilla soup. Posted by: Michael on October 24, 2005 08:25 PM
Where is this P-town of which you speak where I may be whisked away and violated six ways till Sunday. Oh wait....you meant.... Carry on. Posted by: on October 24, 2005 08:47 PM
The Irish and Itailian behead infidels? Posted by: Dale on October 24, 2005 08:53 PM
The fundamental difference, Michael, is that today unassimilated Muslims believe killing is an entirely acceptable way to deal with unpleasant acts such as blasphemy (which includes insulting Islam), apostasy, or violating a family's honor. If an Italian man and an Italian woman shacked up without their parents' permission, would they send the Mafia to take them out? Would the Irish appeal to the IRA to blow up an eloped couple? No, and no. The difference is that some Muslims would see nothing wrong in taking away someone's life for such "crimes". Furthermore, it is possible and easy for Italians, Irish, and even Greeks to consciously and willfully assimilate into American society, if they so choose. On the other hand, in some Muslim circles those who assimilate are considered to be traitors to the religion/culture/clan. And I will say unequivocally that "honor killings" and other extrajudicial executions are absolutely and completely barbaric, unacceptable, wrong, and vile. If such executions are mandated/tolerated by cultural norms, those norms are likewise barbaric, unacceptable, wrong, and vile. We should not give in to the dictatorship of relativism: for certain issues we must strongly affirm and proclaim a definite and absolute right/good and wrong/evil. In this case, honor killings are wrong and evil. In tolerating them, some Muslim communities are perpetuating evil and, if they desire to live amongst us in the West, must reform accordingly. Needless to say, they acceptance of such wrong and evil is in itself wrong and evil. For the record, my family is of Muslim and Asian background. We have assimilated, though many in this category have not. Posted by: Muslihoon on October 24, 2005 09:29 PM
PC Politcal Correctness another word for stupid Posted by: spurwing plover on October 24, 2005 09:33 PM
Ace, I would also like for Spurwing Plover to have his own corner on the blog. A place for Spur to express his streaming, fleeting thoughts. We can call it Welcome to Oblivion. Posted by: Bart on October 24, 2005 09:41 PM
Furthermore, it is possible and easy for Italians, Irish, and even Greeks to consciously and willfully assimilate into American society, if they so choose. On the other hand, in some Muslim circles those who assimilate are considered to be traitors to the religion/culture/clan. Well, it's also true of various groups of Orthodox Jews in America that those who assimilate are "traitors to the clan." A little east of where I live is the largest Amish community on earth in Holmes County, Ohio. They consider assimilation to be traitorous as well. But folks like me go to Holmes County for some really great food at those Amish restaurants. It's a beautiful area, and the Amish community is vibrant and growing. Great place to take a day trip with Mrs. Michael on the motorcycle. Of course, the Amish are not into beheading infidels. But neither are 99.999% of the Muslims immigrating to the U.K., which is where this exchange started. Posted by: Michael on October 24, 2005 11:28 PM
And yes, Italians did commit honor killings. Don't you watch any gangster movies? Posted by: Michael on October 24, 2005 11:30 PM
Or The Sopranos? Posted by: Michael on October 24, 2005 11:32 PM
The reason why the left isn't in outrage over any muslim atrocities is that Islam is at war with America and its Christian heritage. As long as christianity is attacked and the generic moral underpinnings damaged, the moral relativism of the left is ascendant. That allows for the left to spread their self-loathing to the rest of the country. It's called malignant narcissism and can be found here. The left is as sick as the muslims. Posted by: William Thrash on October 24, 2005 11:41 PM
Michael: I don't think anybody is opposed to ethnicity on its own merits. It's when it threatens our lifestyle that we become antsy. The Amish aren't insisting on cultural accommodations from the rest of society. Back in the day, neither did the Chinese, Irish, Italians, etc. They celebrated their culture in their enclaves and assimilated Americanism so that could interact with society at large. That's not the way it works today. Now they're insisting that society must adapt to their culture. And they are succeeding in these demands, largely through the power of liberal guilt. I often wonder if there should be a right of intertia or precedence, whereby people who have enjoyed a lifestyle and set of customs for generations should not be forced to change it to accommodate new arrivals. I think the ethnic enclaves are the only communities that currently enjoy that protection. Posted by: geoff on October 24, 2005 11:44 PM
Of course, the Amish are not into beheading infidels. But neither are 99.999% of the Muslims immigrating to the U.K., which is where this exchange started. Michael, be sure to let us know when 0.001% of the Amish start up with the honor killings and beheadings, and when their lawyers subsequently use their culture as an excuse. Because that'll be noteworthy. Posted by: Sean M. on October 25, 2005 12:01 AM
I absolutely take issue with the fantasy that 99.999% of the muslims in the world are peaceful. Try HERE for a recent polling of those who support suicide bombing of westerners. The figure is 31%. That's far more than this politically correct fantasy figure of .0001% Overe HERE the number saying that such killings are never justified only reach as high as 11% - that's a far cry from the dream-on figure of almost 100%. Islam is all about killing. Those who keep denying it are not only ignoring the facts but are seriously deluded as to how the world works. Islam, the Religion of Peace? I THINK NOT. Scroll down to see how much peace and tolerance Islam has spread in just the last year. Posted by: William Thrash on October 25, 2005 12:17 AM
Hmm, I see I offered poll results that were worldwide., but the poster is claiming British muslims. Well, okay. The numbers there are more "peaceful" but still not what was claimed. At THIS site, the poll numbers show 2% of British muslims agreeing with and willing to commit acts of atrocity. If my math is correct, that is 20,000 times higher than the claimed .0001% willing to commit acts of atrocity. Posted by: William Thrash on October 25, 2005 12:24 AM
Michael is just welcoming his new overloads and wants them to know that he is on their side. The trouble is that they don't care. An infidel is an infidel, no matter if he is sucking your cock. Posted by: Dale on October 25, 2005 06:39 AM
Why is it when people talk of the benefits of multiculturalism, it's all about restaurants and holidays? Assimilate or not. I don't care. I like Chinatown as much as the next weasel. But I think every immigrant has an obligation to like his host country and its native culture and wish it well. Surely as a minimum requirement, any other position is suicidal. Posted by: S. Weasel on October 25, 2005 08:28 AM
The Amish aren't insisting on cultural accommodations from the rest of society. Well, when your riding a motorcycle in Holmes County, you sure have to steer around a lot of horse shit. Posted by: Michael on October 25, 2005 11:32 AM
I'll bet the 2% figure is even lower for U.S. Muslims. I'd be curious to know if at least 2% of U.S. white Christians support "acts of atrocity" against homosexuals, blacks, Jews, or some other disfavored group. You probably can't find accurated data, because poll respondent's would be likely to lie in today's environment. That's not the way it works today. Now they're insisting that society must adapt to their culture. And they are succeeding in these demands, largely through the power of liberal guilt. Geoff: What are you talking about? How is our culture in America being compelled to adapt to Islamic culture? Or are you making this sweeping statement on the basis of the piggy bank thing in the U.K.? C'mon. Posted by: Michael on October 25, 2005 11:45 AM
What are you talking about? How is our culture in America being compelled to adapt to Islamic culture? Or are you making this sweeping statement on the basis of the piggy bank thing in the U.K.? I meant it more broadly than just Islamic culture (things like the requirement for multi-lingual schools, courts, signage; radio and TV bandwidth taken for foreign language stations; disputes about holidays and work environments; disputes about school apparel, environments, and curricula; etc.) but have you already forgotten the dispute in the Detroit suburbs about the call for Mecca? Then you've got this (in the UK): NOVELTY pig calendars and toys have been banned from a council office — in case they offend Muslim staff. and this: Only the other day, Burger King withdrew its ice-cream cones from its British restaurants because Mr Rashad Akhtar of High Wycombe, after a trip to the Park Royal branch, complained that the creamy swirl on the lid resembled the word "Allah" in Arabic script. and this: Muslims took offense at plans to restore the statue of the Florentine Boar, which had stood in the Derby Park for over a hundred years before it was decapitated by a German bomb in 1942. Recent plans to rebuild the Boar’s head ran into resistance from local Muslims. Suman Gupta, a local Council member, warned: “If the statue of the boar is put back at the Arboretum I have been told that it will not be there the next day, or at least it won’t be in the same condition the next day at least. We should not have the boar because it is offensive to some of the groups in the immediate area.” However, after more than 2,000 locals signed petitions in favor of the Boar, local authorities decided to bend to public opinion and go ahead with their original plans to restore the statue. and this: Elsewhere in England pigs did not fare so well. In March 2003, Barbara Harris, head teacher at Park Road Junior Infant and Nursery School in Batley, West Yorkshire, banned stories mentioning pigs. “Recently,” Harris explained, “I have been aware of an occasion where young Muslim children in class were read stories about pigs. We try to be sensitive to the fact that for Muslims talk of pigs is offensive.” Then there's the Li'l Kim cover photo, the flap over the '24' plot, and this: Nike (NYSE: NKE) is trying to clear up misunderstandings resulting from a shoe logo it used last year that offended some Arab-American Muslims. The script ``Air'' logo on a line of shoes last summer resembled the word ``Allah,'' which means God in Arabic. I could go on, but it would all be the same. Posted by: geoff on October 25, 2005 12:02 PM
"the skullfucked mayhem of primative retards" I am SO stealing that line! I mean, hell! I got jamokes living on my block I can use it for! Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin on October 25, 2005 12:48 PM
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