Married women, on the other hand, are considered "up for grabs" until they demonstrate otherwise, at which point, many female soldiers bitterly say, they are considered to be "bitches."

It's like my Daddy used to tell me the difference between a whore and a bitch was: A whore will fuck anybody, and a bitch will fuck anybody but you.

On second thought, that might not've been my Dad. That could've been one of my fraternity brothers who said that.

Only serious pogues (or REMFs, if you will) have the time to do this s**t. Some of us didn't, don't, and won't have the luxury of sexing up SPC Mary Jane Tightpants from the chow hall. The trigger pullers get stuck in god-awful camps on the edge of crap-hell, while the clerk-typists get to hang out at BK on Camp Victory and bicycle- cruise for unattached female generator mechanics. Maybe the "B" in 11B stands for "blueballs." It sure did for me! (And will again, most likely)

But also because it is about our young people, at the peak of their physical condition, furtively coupling in the hot sand like angry jackhammers meeting soft, yielding pavement.

This came dangerously close to turning into a bad poem.

I would've sworn that was vintage Ace I was reading, LauraW. Hilarious.

They can try to keep us apart as much as they want, but they miss the point," said one female enlisted soldier, a Utahn.

Utahn?

All these years I've been calling them 'Utahahoans' but they've been too damn polite and Mormon-y to correct me...

In Korea a couple of female soldiers made extra money 'dating' local business men. They were, apparently, in demand. One A1C on my flight said "I plan on leaving Korea with enough money to buy a yellow Mustang".

She left with enough to buy two.

Male soldiers figure anywhere from a quarter to three-quarters of their female comrades are accepting of sex while on deployment. Perhaps surprisingly, many female soldiers say those guesses are probably low. "If you include all the girls who are having sex with girls, it's much closer to every one of us,"

Yow! So help me with my math here; does this report indicate that 25 to 75% of our Iraq deployed women in uniform are currently engaging in hot lesbians in uniform action?

And Colossus is right, I totally assumed, given the topic and writing, that this was an Ace item.

Maybe the "B" in 11B stands for "blueballs." It sure did for me! (And will again, most likely)

Back in the day that B stood for 'bush' but I suppose that's not appropriate for Iraq :)

Soldier on!

As I understand, previous deployments had general orders issued restricting sex, although these orders were only half-heartedly enforced at best. I don't believe a similar order was issued for any of the operations that are part of the Global War on Terror.

It is pretty amazing when you hear the stories from soldiers in Iraq. People want to get some action, but in such a restricted environment, where do you go for privacy? My sister (a marine) talked about people going into dumpsters, and a sergeant (male) with two females in a port-a-john. I imagine that was like a sweaty, stinky game of twister.

I can say as an officer in an Army MP Battalion, I was certainly surprised at the amount of sex between young female officers and male sergeants, and even the occasional lesbian rumor, although those were never confirmed.

Nothing new or surprising here. Take horny young people, often without the greatest moral systems in the world, put them in close quarters for months and put them through a lot of stress (whether it's far from home, combat zone, or both). In my advanced individual training platoon (150 graduated out of about 175 to start), our "gold medalist" girl had a grand total of 14 notches on her bedpost by the time we finished. Keep in mind that this was only a 16 week course, and we didn't get off-post privileges (i.e., the ability to go stay in a hotel for one, maybe two nights over the weekend and thus the opportunity to get some) until at least a month in. And another weekend was spent on FTX. That's 14 guys in about 11 weekends. Yikes.

Army women are horny, people. I've seen this up close since day one. One of my (female) instructors at AIT put it to me like this: "What happens on deployment, STAYS on deployment."

Send some of those Real Dolls over there.

Horny women? Not so much.

Most of the women fall into one of four groups:
1) Looking for marriage through pregnancy
2) Looking for a ticket back home through pregnancy
3) Looking for cold, hard cash (some would come back from deployments with low 5 figures of earnings)
4) "Desert Queens". Girls who are either too chunky or otherwise unattractive in the 'real world' who suddenly find themselves with a rare commodity, and have their heads spun with the sudden popularity with buff guys who wouldn't give 'em the time of day when girls who are actually attractive are around.

Aside from that, any female officer sleeping with male sergeants should be chaptered out. Fraternization is 100% unacceptable.

As I understand, previous deployments had general orders issued restricting sex, although these orders were only half-heartedly enforced at best.

During Desert Shield/Storm, I was in an artillery brigade headquarters. Of the 19 women in the unit, 18 of them were giving it away regularly. The only one not doing it was the chaplain's assistant. The women realized very quickly that the men would do anything to get at them. They had the men doing all their work in the hopes of "reward." One of the TOC night shift's favorite pasttimes was taking the night vision goggles and going outside and watching the makeshift motor pool. You could easily idnetify who was hooked up with whom heading for the back of one of the trucks down there. We did have to send two mowne home because they became pregnant.

There were also blatatn cases of officer/enlisted sex that is a BIG no-no in the military. They were uniformly ignored. I suspect the concern was that if they actually took action, they might lose people just before the war started.

I can't think of a time in my life where I have ever been so desperate that I would even consider dumpster sex in 110 degree heat. 2 chicks in a portable toilet? OK, maybe, but definitely not in a dumpster.

Any woman getting preggers on a deployment should be shipped back to the stockade. It's nothing but a self-inflicted injury to get out of duty, and that is a crime.

Oh right, there's no difference between men and women and having females around won't harm unit cohesion. Uh-huh. My brainwashing almost slipped for a moment.

Damn, Nathan, you're a killjoy.

Any woman getting preggers on a deployment should be shipped back to the stockade. It's nothing but a self-inflicted injury to get out of duty, and that is a crime.

One of the women that we had get pregnant didn't want to leave the AO. She wasn't planning on saying anything (she had only just gotten pregant) but we had to start taking a nerve agent prophylaxis. She was concerned about the effect it would have on the baby, so she had to speak up two days before the shooting started.

So sad to totally miss out on that knock-down, drag-out in the Miers thread.
I wonder how many of those angry people are in the East and affected by the gloomy weather of the last 5 days.
Yesterday my customers were still cheerful.
All long faces at the store today. This 6th grey rainy morning was the tipping point.

lauraw, THAT is an interesting theory.

But it's sunny and mid-80s here, so I have no excuse. I'm just bitchy.

Hey, I said I wanted a knock-down drag out fight over the nomination. But I meant in the Senate Judiciary hearings, not at AoSHQ!

Hope you see some sunshine soon.

This news is sure to help those recruitment numbers.

AN ARMY OF ONCE A DAY.

Yeah, have film of female GI's walking by with boom-chicka-chicka music in the background.

NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF AL GORE WAS PRESIDENT

He would have banned the military

One of the women that we had get pregnant didn't want to leave the AO. She wasn't planning on saying anything (she had only just gotten pregant) but we had to start taking a nerve agent prophylaxis. She was concerned about the effect it would have on the baby, so she had to speak up two days before the shooting started.

Exactly - so I assume that you just went to QM and requested a spare trooper, since the one you had just became unservicable due to faulty maintenance. Oh wait - it doesn't work like that does it - so when the shooting started you were a trooper short, and everyone else had to carry the load. I hope whoever knocked her up had to pull double shifts for the rest of the war.

>>furtively coupling in the hot sand like angry jackhammers meeting soft, yielding pavement

Great. Another shower on a rainy day.

Fifteen years ago I was hearing about female sailors coming home from a year in Diego Garcia with seabags full of cash.

In case any of those soldiers are listening, I have some pictures of dead bodies i'm willing to trade for their homemade pr0n.

I can't believe no one's mentioned the marine who gave birth on an LHD the day after leaving Kuwait.

Oh yeah, the military buried that story. I'll look for it in my defunct blog archives.

(In her favor, she left the US in a preg situation and was married, so it didn't happen while deployed. Was a PITA getting the birth certificate etc worked out though. Kept our JAG and the embassy busy for a couple of days.)

Kevin - so the the fuck what? She was, presumably, notified for a deployment, and, at the very least allowed herself to be renderred unserviceable at a critical time. It's funny how feminists are all about women "controlling their reproductive choices" yet these "ladies" cannot even keep their breeding from interfering with their sworn duties.

The military should require female soldiers to get I.U.D.s prior to deployment.

It won't solve the sex for money problem, but it will prevent pregnancy.

Saltpeter all 'round!

No women on ships or deployed in combat zones, period.

Zip. Zero. Nada.

Except nurses, who are confined to hospitals.

Mmmmm, by God...

Nathan- The problem with categorizing people is there will always be those that don't fit.
I know girls who don't meet any of your stereotypes and yet they were still out and about.
Maybe it's just the adrenaline.

Donnah,
Sure. That's why I said, "Most". I knew a few that didn't fit the stereotype, too.
However: I was horny, too, and managed to keep it in *my* pants the entire time. All 3 deployments. Are you going to insist women are actually *more* horny than men? A glance at biology/hormonology wouldn't support that. So what are the alternative explanations?
Answer: Those 4 above, particularly #4, as supported by Steve L.
The "Desert Queen" is a reality, even if the girls themselves don't realize it.

I didn't see the "most," sorry.
No, I don't think they're more hornier, but I did see quite a few very pretty, very busy girls having wartime flings. It takes two to tango, so there were fellows who weren't keeping it in their pants. "Why starve when there's food in the refrigerator?"

I'm sure I was quite the Desert Queen myself. I had all my underwear stolen, and have never had any stolen since.

"Are you going to insist women are actually *more* horny than men? A glance at biology/hormonology wouldn't support that. "

Um, yes, dude. Yes they are. They're just *usually* better at concealing it and/or restraining it than we are. Surely you have felt the full power of a real woman's sex drive by now?

Well, its not like the males are outnumbered, and being constantly petitioned for sex by good-looking women in the best shape of their lives.

But that is the situation for the girls. All these buff men, constantly with that hungry look. Willing to do anything to get at you.

You can't blame them too much.

Donnah,
LOL!

...actually, in my experience, the prettier ones were often the ones remaining celibate. And there's no reason the women *had* to keep it in their pants, any more than the guys who didn't. Just that I think LauraW's point is where it comes from: The women *can* pick from the best of the men (usually a 10-to-1 ratio), the guys *are* buff, so why not?
But I think it was because the women were moved by the pursuit, not natural 'horniness'. Then again, I'm not a woman, so I should admit I could be absolutely wrong. I just call 'em as I see 'em.
The only thing that actually made me upset was when male officers would flirt and give preferential treatment to young, cute, female enlisted. Again, fraternization is 100% unacceptable. Aside from that, officers get better pay and better treatment...they shouldn't get to have first crack at the cute enlisted females, too! (spoken as an officer).

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