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September 28, 2005
Oh, That Media IncompetenceDick Meyer and Jeff Jarvis have been sparring over a statement (dumb, I think) of Jarvis', that it's "easy" to "get the facts." Well, it's not. And the MSM will continue having a huge advantage over the Shadow Media in that regard. But the Anchoress makes a great point. The press has such advantages over, say, bloggers -- like actually being able to get a high-ranking muckety-muck on the phone when trying to confirm a fact -- which makes their performance during Katrian all the more inexcusable. If bloggers reported those sorts of absurd rumors of baby-rapin', we'd be excortiated as irresponsible. But, as a mitigation to our crime, we could say, quite correctly, that we're not professionals, we're not salaried, and we don't have big rolodex and a major media organization behind us to help us confirm such stuff. But we don't need that excuse, as we didn't report these wild rumors as a general rule (and in the few instances we did... we were quoting the MSM). The MSM, on the other hand, reported them with little care as to their accuracy. So yes, the legacy media has a great advantage in this area. So what's their excuse for booting it so very badly? The MSM continues to insist upon its pre-eminence in the field of gathering and disseminating information. We're professionals, they say. We're bound by a journalistic code which guarantees accuracy and truthfulness, at least to a high degree. "We get 90% of these things right," they always tell us after they make another big mistake. Did they get 90% of this stuff right during Katrina? I think more like 40%, and most of that stuff was simply reporting what officials at NOLA and the like told them. Which, yes, is an easy thing to do. Where they weren't simply being spoon-fed reports from weather organizations -- where they were left to their own journalistic devices -- they irresponsibly reported insane rumors as fact. If you guys are slow, irredeemably biased, arrogant, and out-of-touch, and now, as is apparent, you can't even do the job of basic fact-verification very well -- what the hell use are you? As Kevin Pollack said in A Few Good Men, "Were you absent the day they tought journalism at journalism school?" I'm Only Adding This Because of His Impeccable Use of the Word "Letimotif" Update: Steve From HB suggests... Ace - I've told you before that the following should be the blogger vs MSM leitmotif. I really have no idea what any of that means, although this "Method Man" character seems to be a very potty-mouthed and borderline racist sort of fellow. If you're going to use racial slurs, can't you at least get the spelling correct? Still: leitmotif. I like hearing words I learned in college. It makes those nine grueling years seem somehow worth it. posted by Ace at 12:53 PM
CommentsYou can blame it on instant gratification or whatever but the simple fact of the matter is the public watches the news channel that presents the most information in the shortest period of time. This creates the environment we have today; it's deemed better to report something, even if its unsubstantiated, then to report nothing. If you think about it, up until the advent of the blogosphere, there was little consequence to taking this approach. The blogosphere's real strength, and I believe most important role, then is to provide some institutional memory so there is some consequence to this irresponsible journalism. Posted by: BrewFan on September 28, 2005 01:16 PM
Ace - I've told you before that the following should be the blogger vs MSM leitmotif. "Release Yo' Delf" When I first stepped on the scene, niggaz was petrified Posted by: steve_in_hb on September 28, 2005 01:32 PM
So what's their excuse for booting it so very badly? Because it would make bushitler look bad, they so desperately wanted it to be true. Therefore, to them it became true. Same with Dan and the phony docs. Posted by: on September 28, 2005 01:43 PM
leitmotif? I'm partial to gestalt myself. I think it's a local affinity though. Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 28, 2005 01:47 PM
So who can ever trust these liberal journalists? i mean they are the biggist bunch or liars right up there with bill clinton and his cabnet these are the nasty reptiles who spend it 24/7 lying to the american public Posted by: Spurwing plover on September 28, 2005 01:52 PM
Posted by: Purple Avenger on September 28, 2005 02:13 PM
Did they get 90% of this stuff right during Katrina? I think more like 40%, and most of that stuff was simply reporting what officials at NOLA and the like told them.Except when even those officials got it horribly wrong. See Mayor Nagin, and Chief Compass. When you factor everything together, I think the media comes off even worse. They were in a position to report real news - they had crews there in the Superdome, and yet they peddled stories of hundreds dead while their crews couldn't actually find any of the bodies? Their irresponsibility was compounded by the awful performance of the local officials who did little to quell the rumor mongering. In fact, all they did was expand on it by running off at the mouth on Oprah. And their comments were picked up elsewhere. Posted by: lawhawk on September 28, 2005 02:27 PM
I'm not sure if you consider Boing Boing to be a blog or MSM, Ace, but they were running some stuff that was pretty close to tinfoil hat territory from within the Astrodome in the days after Katrina. Not saying that to defend the MSM, by any means -- their coverage was unconscionable by any standard. But there were a few places in the 'Sphere running conspiracy stuff, too. Posted by: The Colossus on September 28, 2005 03:03 PM
My favorite college-word is weltschmerz. Hmm, these are all German. Posted by: Michael on September 28, 2005 03:21 PM
Not really lovin' anything I see in the MSM lately - even Fox News was over the top and too emotional during the hurricane reporting. I guess I am not at one with the zeitgeist these days. Posted by: Nordicgirl on September 28, 2005 03:59 PM
lietmotif -- German literally means lead theme gestalt -- German literally means the form or shape of something weltschmerz -- German literally means "world pain" zeitgeist -- German literally means the spirit of the times Damn Krauts! We won the war. Stay the f*ck out of our language! [I know, English is mostly a Germanic language, but you get my point.] Posted by: Michael on September 28, 2005 07:20 PM
Hugh Hewitt asks the question: If the MSM with all its resources couldn't get a reporter inside the Superdome or the Convention Center to do some "accurate reporting" -- in the United States -- how can we trust them to report accurately in hostile foreign war zones like Iraq? Posted by: capitano on September 28, 2005 07:37 PM
Gotta love the Release Yo Delf reference. Posted by: chip on September 28, 2005 07:45 PM
Partially, it's tied into that Jonathon Klein model of 'storytellin," which is a reaction to what people want. I think people flip through the dials so much now, they stop at angry faces, emotional expressions. Emotional stories told by emotional people stops people from flipping the remote. And when "Emotion' (aka 'connecting w/ the viewer') approaches paramount status, where are the old restraints? Why they're sitting on the mantle of 'let go' old school newsie, fired by exec's to make room for new journalism's Klein et.al (who extol their anchor/missionaries) Really, emotionalsim ain't any new insight. Just it bleeds, it leads, writ large. It's just the old chase for profits - something I heartily endorse, but something people who talk about being in a profession (journalists) were supposed to keep in proper place. But still, I blame execs as much as journalists here. Posted by: Dr. Reo Symes on September 28, 2005 09:24 PM
I think people flip through the dials so much now, they stop at angry faces, emotional expressions. I think you're basically saying that "The Torture Channel" would be an overnight sensation. 10:30 - Bastinado basics ...well you get the idea. ...Unfortunately, I think I just described Al-Jazeera Posted by: Purple Avenger on September 28, 2005 11:36 PM
more German horse = der fodderburninklippenklopper windsheild wipers = die drizzleflippen constipated = fahrfrumpoopen Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 29, 2005 12:54 PM
I hate to pick nits, but your German appears to be a little rusty. You forgot an umlaut: fahrfrümpoopen Posted by: Michael on September 29, 2005 01:55 PM
Dave in Texas: If you doubt my command of the German language, talk to one of your friends in New Braunfels the next time you go tubing on the Guadelupe River. Posted by: Michael on September 29, 2005 10:43 PM
Dave in Texas: And, if you think I don't actually know the Texas Hill Country, think again. There's nothing better than driving your bike through the Willow City Cutoff, a beautiful stretch of road. If you're coming from the south, you end up at the barbecue joint in Willow City. You enter, and gaze with reverence at the signature of Eric Clapton on the wall. Then you chow down on brisket, and, if you're lucky, fresh peach pie in season. I bet you can't name a Hill Country town I have not been to. Gruene? Been there. Done the dance hall. Camp Wood? Been there. From San Antonio, that's an awesome drive along the upper ridge of the hill country. Best done in the spring, when the wildflowers are spectacular if there's been a little rain. Posted by: Michael on September 29, 2005 11:09 PM
Hey Michael, I hear Mrs. Michael is at Camp Wood right now. With the Pool Boy. Posted by: Lipstick on September 29, 2005 11:16 PM
Forgot to mention Blanco. Blanco County, Texas has produced more champion rodeo cowboys than any other place on earth. Which is fairly impressive, cuz there's almost noone there. My source for this is the paper tablemat at a diner in Blanco where the bikers tend to gather for breakfast on weekends. Posted by: Michael on September 29, 2005 11:16 PM
Lipstick: Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, Of huge damn feet flopping on the ground. Posted by: Michael on September 29, 2005 11:22 PM
Mike once was lost But now he's found His wife's boinking the Pool Boy cause he himself is too dang old and wears a cape and it freaks her out, etc. etc. :) Posted by: Lipstick on September 29, 2005 11:31 PM
OK, this thread is getting weird, so perhaps I should offer an explanation. See, Lipstick's real first name is Grace. So, that's why I did the take on the old Amazing Grace hymn. Now, how do I know Lipstick's real first name? Well, I'm a gentleman. After I bang a girl, I always ask for her name. Lipstick, gasping, told me her name was Grace. The reason I ask this question is because I'm a nice guy who will always follow up with the obligatory Next-Day-Phone-Call where you say what a great time you had and blah blah blah. But, that phone call usually goes much better if you actually know the chick's name. Her real name, not her internet handle. So, that's why I know Lipstick = Grace, and thus the odd play on the Amazing Grace hymn. Posted by: Michael on September 29, 2005 11:47 PM
The thing is, when dorky guys ask for my name, I always give them a fake one. Suckers fall for it every time... Posted by: Lipstick on September 30, 2005 12:03 AM
Lipstick: So, you are suggesting that when Tiffany at the strip club told me that her real name was Iris maybe she was lying (after 7 lap dances at $20 each)? Nah, I just can't believe that. I mean, Iris really liked me. Posted by: Michael on September 30, 2005 01:33 AM
We should all just believe the planted stories from the administration. Bush would never lie. Frist would never dump his stocks for millions thanks to inside information. Tom Delay is just a real nice guy and would never turn a blue state red by trickery. Our great country would never turn anyone away from a public meeting for wearing a dissenting message on their clothing or vehicles. Republicans are just so nice to their gay friends. They give them free press passes and leak stories to them. I really think it would help if the gay prostitute Jeff Gannon would continue to be the unofficial spokesperson of the Republicans. Of course when the culture of corruption is successfull and no longer needs him, he will have to be "removed" to a nice place out of view of the public, like Gitmo. Where are the true Republicans? Maybe I was just wrong in believing that the Nixon criminal cabinet and Reagan's Iran Contra guns for drugs to sell in the US were just anomolies. I really believed George HW Bush when he said that he was, "Out of the loop." I used to be a proud Republican. Now I don't see any Republicans left in my party. I only see right-wing churchian fundamentalists (they don't live like Christ so they really are not Christians - followers of Christ) that have joined forces with the corporations and wannabe rich willing to do what ever it takes to get their house in the 'burbs. The self-righteous bastards have taken over My party on the local level. I am sure that Delay's money laundering is partly resposible. Local people that are good managers and business persons are opposed in local elections by less-competent candidates that were supported by money from the national party machine. I am sick and tired of watching politicians and corporations line their pockets at the public expense. The only way to stop this crap is to take the money from the equation. Conscription of industry during disasters, war and reconstruction would be a very good place to start. Take the monetary benefit gained from war by the rich and there will be very little war. I have come full circle since my steadfast belief in Col North and crew. After learning of the CIA cocaine trafficing ring, I now realize that there is no war but class war. Posted by: Bob on September 30, 2005 02:14 AM
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