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September 26, 2005

Cindy Sheehan Subject To Arrest, Light Petting

Drudge calls it a "cunning stunt." Ahem.

Look at the old gal, she's positively glowing. Maybe she'll be less whiny now.


posted by Ace at 02:57 PM
Comments



They should send her to Gitmo where she'll be with her fellow Anti-American Jew haters who support the "insurgency" in Iraq.

I am really tired of this bitch.

Posted by: Mark on September 26, 2005 03:01 PM

"Cunning stunt." That's the pro-war equivalent of those "Buck Fush" t-shirts.

Posted by: Allah on September 26, 2005 03:01 PM

Allah...if Cindy Sheehan has a "Stunning C***" in your opinion, maybe it's a good thing you stopped blogginig. :)

Posted by: Jack M. on September 26, 2005 03:03 PM

So far, every picture I've seen of the event, she's got that giant, loony, shit-eating grin on her face. You have to know Democrat operatives are slapping their foreheads over this one.

Posted by: S. Weasel on September 26, 2005 03:03 PM

Keep your hands where we can see 'em...

WAFJ

Posted by: California Conservative on September 26, 2005 03:04 PM

Krusty to cops: "Burn those gloves."

Posted by: Dr. Reo Symes on September 26, 2005 03:09 PM

Of more importance - Don Adams (Agent 86) has died. He was 82.

Posted by: Enas Yorl on September 26, 2005 03:11 PM

Her right arm must be HUGE! Look how long it must be to wrap arounf the cop on the left side!

Posted by: Grendel on September 26, 2005 03:12 PM

Shoulda flipped her ass, cuffed her from behind and dragged her off like they do everyone else.

Hope she likes bologna sandwiches, maybe if they locked her up for a week or so she'd sober up.

Posted by: Dwilkers on September 26, 2005 03:16 PM

Looks more like a Cupid Stunt.

Posted by: Border Reiver on September 26, 2005 03:25 PM

It'd be kinda funny if she got "lost" in the system.

Posted by: Iblis on September 26, 2005 03:32 PM

Speaking of petting...
"Ms. Sheehan was arrested for trying to impersonate an officer. She almost made it through the White House gates, before an alert White House Police Officer noticed that she really wasn't Officer Freedom, a Quarterhorse and member of the D.C. Mounted Police Unit..."

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on September 26, 2005 03:39 PM

Biggest story on Google right now is this stunt arrest.

Sigh.....

This&That

Posted by: this&that on September 26, 2005 03:44 PM

This really pisses me off. Mother Peace stages these photo ops and the MSM willingly laps them up. They willingly help promolugate the Martyring Of Cindy.

Last week, in NY, Cindy was part of a protest. The protest organizers "forgot" to get a permit to use loudspeakers at the event. Hence, when they put Cindy up there in front of the microphone...the cops, rightly, shut them down. Of course, the MSM willingly creates headlines insinuating that "The Man" doesn't want Cindy's message to get out.

Umm, no...they purposely didn't get the permit for the event. Helps to bolster Cindy's Liberal street cred if she gets harassed by The Man, doncha know.

Posted by: TheShadow on September 26, 2005 03:45 PM

I bet she has an angry vagina.

Wait-- sorry, my bad, I missed "Innuendo Day" at school.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on September 26, 2005 03:51 PM

Ace, your "Ahem." made me laugh outloud. You are getting another donation, my friend.

Please consider one day teaming up with Jonah Goldberg, Jeff from Protein Wisdom and Bill from INDC and forming an anti-Onion website (the Leek, perhaps? The Scallion? The Bulbous Root Vegetable?).

We'll show those liberals who's funny.

Posted by: fasterplease on September 26, 2005 03:52 PM

Ah, the grieving mother.
She always looks like she's at a party.

Hope her ex changed the locks.

Posted by: lauraw on September 26, 2005 03:56 PM

So far, every picture I've seen of the event, she's got that giant, loony, shit-eating grin on her face.

Back in August, every picture I saw of St. Cindy the Grief-Stricken either had her weeping, about to weep, just getting over weeping, or looking like she needed more fiber in her diet. And now it's nothing but grins. Looks like the MSM has issued new marching orders to its photographers.

Posted by: OregonMuse on September 26, 2005 04:02 PM

Well for a greiving mother, they've got her on some bang-up drugs to give her a shit-eating-grin like that.

Posted by: Iblis on September 26, 2005 04:07 PM

Separated at birth.

Cindy Sheehan

This

Posted by: Edward R. Murrow on September 26, 2005 04:18 PM

So far, every picture I've seen of the event, she's got that giant, loony, shit-eating grin on her face.

Back in August, every picture I saw of St. Cindy the Grief-Stricken either had her weeping, about to weep, just getting over weeping, or looking like she needed more fiber in her diet.

I guess the new meds are working.

Posted by: on September 26, 2005 04:24 PM

Jennifer C. Kerr of the AP must be having multiple orgasms over this. She's filed her 6th lead writethru on this story as of 3:30 p.m. She even gets to work in the bogus "over 100,000" attendance figure for Sunday's wide-angle protest.

She's also hiding ANSWER's role in the demonstrations, giving the stage to the "umbrella group" United for Peace and Justice.

Give you some perspective, the AP's only on its 2nd lead of events in Iraq, and 4th in NIreland. To do six rewrites indicates great entheusiasm for this non-story.

Oh, and we're getting a boatload of photos as well. Gotta give the MSM every opportunity to blow this out of proportion. Way to go, AP!

Posted by: Chester Fields on September 26, 2005 04:47 PM

"Please consider one day teaming up with Jonah Goldberg, Jeff from Protein Wisdom and Bill from INDC and forming an anti-Onion website (the Leek, perhaps? The Scallion? The Bulbous Root Vegetable?)."

What's Bill's role? Oh wait, I see. He's going to be the Bulbous Root. Nevermind.

Posted by: BrewFan on September 26, 2005 04:47 PM

I think St. Cindy's been laying off the Lithium too long. Maybe the DC police will see that she gets some much needed psychiatric care. Unless Tom Cruise is in charge, in which case she'll get a massage and a nice yogurt enema.

Posted by: Dacotti on September 26, 2005 04:51 PM

So "a little rain and a little wind"
Couldn't keep Cindy from the headlines again!!

Posted by: WhoDey on September 26, 2005 04:54 PM

Ahem, I thought the grin was due to Officer Magic Fingers.

ps: I loved Agents 86 and 99.

Posted by: on September 26, 2005 04:57 PM

Hope her ex changed the locks.

He has managed to show an exceptional amount of class through this ordeal.

Posted by: on September 26, 2005 05:05 PM

Wasn't there some kind of weathe event this last weekend? I seem to remember something about it, Cindy-mania distracted me.

Posted by: Steve L. on September 26, 2005 05:58 PM
Posted by: DANEgerus on September 26, 2005 06:21 PM
Posted by: DANEgerus on September 26, 2005 06:29 PM

Casualties in Iraq down, Rita didn't cause enough damage - What else to report on?

Posted by: Mahatma Kane Jeeves on September 26, 2005 06:30 PM

So why is Cindy smiling?

Because oppression, in just the right spot, can feel so goooood

Posted by: Christopher Cross on September 26, 2005 07:07 PM

This stupid stunt and the MSM lapping it up had me in a bad mood today until I saw your picture and captions, Ace, then read the comments. Laughed so hard the dark clouds are gone for a while. Until her next insanity.

Posted by: teri on September 26, 2005 09:04 PM

they've got her on some bang-up drugs to give her a shit-eating-grin like that.

Thorazine and scopolamine mix - the thorazine makes everyone happy, the scopolamine cuts down on the nausea it might induce.

I highly recommend it - two thumbs up.

Posted by: Purple Avenger on September 27, 2005 04:00 AM

Arrested and she might enjoy the prison food dose she like bread and water?

Posted by: spurwing plover on September 27, 2005 10:19 AM

Aw man, you beat me to it!
http://www.secondbreakfast.net/archives/002191.html

Posted by: Ken Summers on September 27, 2005 11:54 AM

"Maybe she'll be less whiny now."

... you know no one was actually going to post the 'she really needs to get ****' bit,,, but it might well be true just the same.

Of course, I would never post such a thing, either.

Posted by: semionager on September 27, 2005 12:41 PM

I'm a huge anti-war advocate. The war is illegal and no one can deny that fact.
BUT....

I don't like itwhen things become politically motivated. I also dont' like how she is gloating or laughing. I honestly don't think it was appropriate to have a song of praise to her and wrap her in the flag at the protest in Washington.

This isn't about Cindy Sheehan. It isn't about you or I or what political party someone supports or anyone in particular. Its about an illegal war.

Posted by: AlanB on September 27, 2005 10:46 PM

The war is illegal and no one can deny that fact.

What law was broken?

Posted by: Slublog on September 27, 2005 10:53 PM

I also dont' like how she is gloating or laughing.

She's enjoying being felt up under her skirt. I wouldn't hold that against her.

Posted by: on September 27, 2005 11:00 PM

Slublog,

Claims to WMD. Claims to terrorist connections. Awarding of no-bid contracts, inflated prices that costs more money. THe breaking of numerous U.N. regulations.

At this point everything that was told to us were lies. They have zero evidence to support any of their claims.

And thus they have resorted to the whole, we are making a difference in the name of freedom. Yet they are privating Iraq's oil.

That oil, that land, and their government isn't our own personal property. That is theirs. We got rid of Saddam and we *freed* them from their former government.

It is time for them to stand up for themselves and establish their government for themselves. These terrorists who continue to commit suicide do it because WE ARE THERE.

Let me ask you this: Why are we spending billions upon billions of dollars on a *barbaric* concept known as war when it could be used for the advancement of knowledge and technology which could ultimately eliminate war?

Did you guys know that war is the most profitable mechanism for people of wealth and power? You honestly think that this war is a war on terrorism?

You honestly think that our government is there for the Iraqi people's freedom? You honestly think the fact that each of these countries they label as terrorist harboring countries have 50 billion+ barrels of oil in reserves and it isn't at all about that?

Unfortunately, wars are either about power and control or religious matters. That is history and it will always remain the same.

And even if it wasn't about oil, which is essentially power and control, then it'd still be wrong to remain there. We shouldn't have been in the war in the first place and it isn't our right to dictate to them what kind of government their people should have. That is their right.


Posted by: AlanB on September 28, 2005 12:04 AM

I'm more concerned about the cop copping a feel.

Posted by: on September 28, 2005 12:23 AM

That's a good summation of the anti-war argument, but not what I asked?

But what laws have been broken? Saying the war is unethical is one thing - but illegality requires that specific statutes be violated, and so far, you have not shown that the president or the U.S. engaged in illegal behavior.

Posted by: Slublog on September 28, 2005 09:06 AM

The war is illegal and no one can deny that fact

I deny that.

See? Wrong again.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 28, 2005 09:15 AM

Preview is my friend.

That last post should have looked like this:

That's a good summation of the anti-war argument, but not what I asked.

Again, what laws have been broken? Saying the war is unethical is one thing - but illegality requires that specific statutes be violated, and so far, you have not shown that the president or the U.S. engaged in illegal behavior in the act of declaring or waging war on Iraq.

Posted by: Slublog on September 28, 2005 09:27 AM

The LAW that was NOT broken:

AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY
FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002
PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002
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PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002 116 STAT. 1498
Public Law 107–243
107th Congress
Joint Resolution
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq. Oct. 16, 2002
[H.J. Res. 114]

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq’s war of aggression against
and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a
coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order
to defend the national security of the United States and enforce
United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;
Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into
a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to
which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate
its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the
means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for
international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United
States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery
that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and
a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had
an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was
much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence
reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire,
attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify
and destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and
development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal
of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in Public Law 105–235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded
that Iraq’s continuing weapons of mass destruction programs
threatened vital United States interests and international
peace and security, declared Iraq to be in ‘‘material and unacceptable
breach of its international obligations’’ and urged the President
‘‘to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution
and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into
compliance with its international obligations’’;

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security
of the United States and international peace and security in
the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable
breach of its international obligations by, among other things,
continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and
biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons
capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations
Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression
of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace
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116 STAT. 1499 PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002
and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate,
or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq,
including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property
wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability
and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other
nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing
hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States,
including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President
Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United
States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the
resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility
for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests,
including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are
known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist
organizations, including organizations that threaten the
lives and safety of United States citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001,
underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition
of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist
organizations;

Whereas Iraq’s demonstrated capability and willingness to use
weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi
regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise
attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide
them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme
magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and
its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by
the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990)
authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United
Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent
relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities
that threaten international peace and security, including the
development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or
obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation
of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression
of its civilian population in violation of United Nations
Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors
or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United
Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);

Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against
Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102–1), Congress has authorized
the President ‘‘to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to
United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order
to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660,
661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677’’;

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that
it ‘‘supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals
of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent
with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against
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PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002 116 STAT. 1500
Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102–1),’’ that Iraq’s repression of
its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council
Resolution 688 and ‘‘constitutes a continuing threat to the peace,
security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,’’ and that Congress,
‘‘supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the
goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688’’;
Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105–338)
expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy
of the United States to support efforts to remove from power
the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic
government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the
United States to ‘‘work with the United Nations Security Council
to meet our common challenge’’ posed by Iraq and to ‘‘work
for the necessary resolutions,’’ while also making clear that ‘‘the
Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just
demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be
unavoidable’’;

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war
on terrorism and Iraq’s ongoing support for international terrorist
groups combined with its development of weapons of mass
destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991
cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions
make clear that it is in the national security interests of the
United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that
all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be
enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war
on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding
requested by the President to take the necessary actions against
international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including
those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized,
committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September
11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue
to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists
and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations,
or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided
the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or
harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to
take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international
terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in
the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force
(Public Law 107–40); and

Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States
to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf
region: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the ‘‘Authorization for
Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002’’.
Authorization for
Use of Military
Force Against
Iraq Resolution
of 2002.
50 USC 1541
note.
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116 STAT. 1501 PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002
SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS.
The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by
the President to—
(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security
Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq
and encourages him in those efforts; and
(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security
Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay,
evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies
with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION.—The President is authorized to use the
Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary
and appropriate in order to—
(1) defend the national security of the United States against
the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.
(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.—In connection with the
exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force
the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter
as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising
such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of
Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his
determination that—
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic
or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately
protect the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead
to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent
with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist
organizations, including those nations, organizations, or
persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist
attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.—
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with
section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress
declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory
authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the
War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in
this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War
Powers Resolution.
SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS.
President. (a) REPORTS.—The President shall, at least once every 60 days,
submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint
resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of
authority granted in section 3 and the status of planning for efforts
that are expected to be required after such actions are completed,
including those actions described in section 7 of the Iraq Liberation
Act of 1998 (Public Law 105–338).
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PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002 116 STAT. 1502
(b) SINGLE CONSOLIDATED REPORT.—To the extent that the
submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with
the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this
joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress
pursuant to the reporting requirements of the War Powers Resolution
(Public Law 93–148), all such reports may be submitted as
a single consolidated report to the Congress.
(c) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—To the extent that the information
required by section 3 of the Authorization for Use of Military
Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102–1) is included in
the report required by this section, such report shall be considered
as meeting the requirements of section 3 of such resolution.
Approved October 16, 2002.
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY—H.J. Res. 114 (S.J. Res. 45) (S.J. Res. 46):
HOUSE REPORTS: No. 107–721 (Comm. on International Relations).
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 148 (2002):
Oct. 8, 9, considered in House.
Oct. 10, considered and passed House and Senate.
WEEKLY COMPILATION OF PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS, Vol. 38 (2002):
Oct. 16, Presidential remarks and statement.
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Posted by: Mahatma Kane Jeeves on September 28, 2005 10:39 AM

How about posting a link next time. Sheesh.

Posted by: BrewFan on September 28, 2005 10:44 AM
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Seattle mayor shrugs off millionaire-tax concerns as 44% of business leaders consider leaving
It happens in all the blue states, but WA and Seattle will be different! [CBD]
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