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September 07, 2005
Quick, Before She Deletes It: Senator Landrieu's Own Website Puts Onus On Local Authorities For Immediate ResponseFor a limited time only; hurry, because this won't be here tomorrow: DISASTER ASSISTANCE Note that, post-ante, she's changed her tune about who has primary responsibility for disaster preparedness. Changing your betting position past post is usually considered fraud, even in the Big Easy. Unless, of course, you've bought off the corrupt police. Big thanks to Cirby. Correction: I first said that "post-ante" betting was illegal. I think the term is "past-post," making a bet after a contest has been started. I guess in some situations it's legal, and bookmakers will take during-the-contest bets. But I was thinking of the con used to cheat at roulette and craps and blackjack and such, where a player has a stack of low-denomination chips and then slips in a big-denomination chip through sleight-of-hand only after he's seen that he's won-- and of course now gets paid off for a big fat bet he really didn't make, or "bet" after the contest was actually over. I think they call that past-post betting or the past-post con or something like that. Sometimes my analogies are overly complex, ill-informed, and/or half-baked. I don't know what's wrong with me. I don't do this for a living. posted by Ace at 12:51 PM
CommentsGood catch, although, to be honest, the word "onus" disturbs me. Sounds dirty, like bbeck's mouth. Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on September 7, 2005 12:56 PM
Yay! I got one! Posted by: cirby on September 7, 2005 12:58 PM
I saved the page as a PDF if you want a copy. Posted by: Kevin on September 7, 2005 01:09 PM
This one's so good, Cirby, you deserve a second attaboy...or, attagirl..."Cirby" is so non-gender-specific. Sorry. Posted by: Rocketeer on September 7, 2005 01:19 PM
Boy. First initial, last name, been using it online for about fifteen years. Posted by: cirby on September 7, 2005 01:32 PM
Changing your betting position post-ante is a crime, even in the Big Easy. ace, whazzat mean? I am not wise in the ways of online p*ker theory and practice. Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 7, 2005 03:02 PM
post-ante betting (unless I'm screwing up the terminology) isn't just a p*ker deal. It's changing your bet illegally, like when r*ulette cheaters put a fat chip under their stack of lower-denomination chips when they see that they've won. I may be screwing up the term. There's a word for that; I'm just not sure, right now, if it's "post-ante," or if that just means making a legal bet mid-contest or someting Maybe I meant past-post? Actually, I think that is the right term. Posted by: ace on September 7, 2005 03:10 PM
past post sounds like a racing deal, but I am no expert there either. I grok the fat chip example though. it's bad. very bad. like changing your position on FEMA bad. Posted by: Dave in Texas on September 7, 2005 03:38 PM
Uh, "post-ante." Is that sort of like "after the pre-civil war period"? After-before! Another precocious concept from the innocent (almost childlike) mind of Ace? Posted by: Levans on September 7, 2005 03:44 PM
It applies to a lot of betting, including roulette. I think in The Sting, where the cheating was on horse-racing, they specifically refer to it as a past-post con.
Posted by: ace on September 7, 2005 03:45 PM
post-ante it means "after the beginning," doesn't it? As in, you would have a different position on, say, drunk driving laws after being caught drunk driving ("post-ante") than you would have before knowing you'd be nailed for that violation ("ex ante"). Posted by: ace on September 7, 2005 03:50 PM
Dave is correct. Posted by: Uncle Jefe on September 7, 2005 03:51 PM
Sometimes my analogies are overly complex, ill-informed, and/or half-baked. I don't understand what you're trying to say. Posted by: John from WuzzaDem on September 7, 2005 04:06 PM
Ace, you bolded the wrong part in my opinion: Victims whose immediate needs are not met by voluntary relief organizations, such as the Red Cross and the Salvation Army, can register with FEMA.. This is something that many are forgetting in the wake of this tragedy. NO GOVERNMENT, including our own, is expected to be the primary responder to natural disasters; if that was true (or better stated: feasible) we would have done it and there'd be no use for the Salvation Army and the Red Cross (which very well might be a socialist's dream) Government agencies, by definition are bureaucratic. They cannot be subjective in their decisions on aid which is critical in emergencies. Governments aid agencies know how to dispurse money. Posted by: JFH on September 7, 2005 04:39 PM
By "register with FEMA," they mean "call in or come to one of our aid centers and we'll help you get grants and/or loans." After the hurricanes hit Florida last year, I got a big stack of envelopes from FEMA, with lots of options for post-disaster aid. I didn't get any aid, though (wasn't really eligible, since not much happened to me).
Posted by: cirby on September 7, 2005 06:00 PM
Interesting article regarding the mechanism for funding levee improvements locally. Posted by: Hubris on September 7, 2005 06:14 PM
I don't know what's wrong with me. I don't do this for a living. With the going rate for a disaster "plan" being a cool half mil, we all are definately in the wrong line of business. I sense a market opportunity here. In anticipation of overwhelming response and gobbs of CrazyPlanMoney™ flowing our way I've sketched out the AceEvac™ plan. a) Locate buses Posted by: Tony on September 7, 2005 07:50 PM
Tony, You forgot: b1) stop at the liquor store for 'provisions' Posted by: BrewFan on September 7, 2005 08:24 PM
Back when I was young and beautiful, out of town baseball games were distributed by telegraph. They were then "created" in the local radio station, often with the ticker audible in the background. Posted by: Walter E. Wallis on September 7, 2005 11:22 PM
Most roulette tables use non-value chips, that is, since there are so many different bets possible on roulette, the procedure is to give the players an entire stack of chips so they can spread them around AND the dealers will be able to tell just whose corner or street bet won or lost. Let's say you walk up to a roulette table and toss down a hundred-dollar bill. You are given a stack of 20 plain chips, each one worth $5, but your chips will be a different color than everybody else's chips. If you only play with $20, then each chip is only worth a dollar. There is a rack near the wheel that shows the dealers how much each player's chips are worth....your color chip is placed beside a "regular" chip that denotes how much each of youe chips is worth. So the dealer can tell at a glance - "Dark red chips are playing for $5, light greens are only a dollar". I mean, if 7 or 8 or 10 people are playing and several folks make bets on the same number(s), how could you tell who bet $5, and who bet $15 and who bet $50? Hence the different colored plain chips, just for roulette. But you must cash out your chips before you leave the table and get "regular" chips. The point of all this is just to say that past-posting is MUCH more common on blackjack or baccarrat than it is on roulette.... Posted by: tomaig on September 8, 2005 10:12 AM
I think they call that past-post betting or the past-post con or something like that. I believe the technical term for this is "The 'Ol Switcheroo." Posted by: The Warden on September 8, 2005 10:32 AM
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