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August 08, 2005

Israeli Cabinet OK's First Stage of Pullout

For all the grief that Israel and especially Ariel Sharon gets, doesn't it seem like they'er doing a hell of a lot to defuse the conflict with the Palestinians, at no small risk to themselves?

I have to imagine Bush plays a part here, too.

Israeli security officials on Monday considered far-reaching new arrangements for Gaza's international border crossing, including the deployment of foreign inspectors, after Israel pulls out of the coastal strip in the coming weeks. An Israeli agreement to let foreigners replace Israeli inspectors at the Egypt-Gaza crossing at Rafah would be a major concession and give Gaza's Palestinians relatively unfettered access to the world for the first time in decades.

The deployment of foreign inspectors is supported by U.S. envoy James Wolfensohn, who has been trying to broker an agreement between the two sides on border crossings.

Wolfensohn has urged Israel to make a decision on border arrangements before the withdrawal starts next week. He also has said the withdrawal will only be a success if fenced-in Gazans can move freely — a prerequisite for reviving their battered economy.

The European Union, meanwhile, said it was willing to play a role in providing customs officers and training for the Palestinian Authority as part of bolstering security at the border.

The Security Cabinet, a group of top ministers, began meeting Monday afternoon, but it was not clear when a decision would be made. If the Rafah model is approved, it could be applied to the Palestinian airport and seaport.

Israel already has agreed to allow the Palestinians to rebuild their Gaza seaport, a project that could take years to complete. Gaza's international airport stopped operating after the outbreak of fighting in 2000, when Israel destroyed the runway.

Israel's main concern about the border crossings and ports is that militants could use them to smuggle weapons and infiltrate comrades into Gaza from Egypt after Israel leaves.

Under the current arrangement, Israeli troops patrol a narrow strip between Gaza and Egypt — the so-called Philadelphi road — and Israeli security and customs inspectors are posted at the Rafah crossing.

Europe will provide "customs officers" and "training" for the PA (as if the PA is keely interested in keeping out explosives and forbidden weapons). I don't see anything about actual troops for enforcement.

Benjamin Netanyahu resigned from the cabinet in protest. I can see his point about reducing security, and sure, I like him a lot, but it does strike me that he's playing politics, currying favor with the ultranationalist right.

I think the current formula is smart in its basics. Get the settlers out of undefensible areas, retreat back behind well-defended walls, let the Palestinians police themselves... if they can. If they can't, well, it's either time for those European countries so passionately in favor of the Palestinians to put their own troops on the line to calm things down.


posted by Ace at 01:08 PM
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If they can't, well, it's either time for those European countries so passionately in favor of the Palestinians to put their own troops on the line to calm things down.

Yeah, but we both know they won't. What then?

Posted by: Allah on August 8, 2005 01:11 PM

I noted over on The Belmont Club that his move may be a high-stakes gamble by Ariel Sharon to force the Palis' hand: either they want peace and will respect the border; or they don't and will turn Gaza into exactly the rats' nest of terror ops that Netanyahu fears it will be.

I think it goes without saying that Netanyahu is right and the Palis will turn Gaza into Terrorist Central, and that Israel will once again be under siege. But what response will come from the Israelis? It depends on the cost Israel is made to bear for this action: one big suicide attack in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem could mean fire and sword for Gaza.

Posted by: Monty on August 8, 2005 01:27 PM

Let 'em kill each other.

As for Israeli's security-- the wall seems to be fairly effective.

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the emphasis is being taken away from having Israeli soldiers in the Palestinian areas at checkpoints, looking for weapons and stuff, and having instead a wall and checkpoints only at the crossings into Israel.

It seems to me that's a better plan. For one thing, it reduces friction with the Palestinians because you're only stopping them at the border to Israel. For another, you don't have soldiers all over the place, easy targets for terrorists; they're back at better defended positions on Israel's border.

And it seems more effective to have all of the security back at the actual border.

Having a big wall should help with patrolling that border.

Posted by: ace on August 8, 2005 01:27 PM

The problem is with the fragmented security services ostensibly under Abba's control. I will grant the longevity and, by rock standards, the cohesiveness of this group over the decades past. But to believe this can be extended into a unified police and security force beggars belief. I anticipate an S-O-S.

Add to this the potential for a nest of ugly terror groups each trying to out-recruit each other by sponsoring more and more outrageous terror attacks and you can see why it just doesn't seem like some guys named Ule and Gretel can get the job done.

Sorry to rain on the parade.

Posted by: spongeworthy on August 8, 2005 01:35 PM

ace:

You're forgetting that Gaza has a seaport, and that this provides an avenue for a lot of ugly stuff to come in and go out. Explosives and weapons can go in; terrorists can ship out. Gaza could become the armory for that entire region of the middle east. An operational seaport could allow for the importation of heavy weapons like tanks and howitzers, not to mention surface-to-surface missiles.

The Israelis aren't stupid, though -- they'll have ELINT and HUMINT resources crawling over the seaport like ants on an anthill. Still, there's a limit to what intelligence of this kind can achieve; heavy weapons are almost inevitably going to be smuggled in.

Posted by: Monty on August 8, 2005 01:39 PM

If Israel makes Gaza into a de facto (and maybe even de jure) country, then when the innevitable mortar and rocket attacks occur, Israel will be justufied under international law in going apeshit on their ass - it'll be an armed attack from a foreign country, meriting a response up to and including war. At present Israel has to act with the restraint required of an occupying power.

Sharon may be fat and obnoxious, but he's been beating Arab armies and nations his whole life.

Posted by: holdfast on August 8, 2005 07:08 PM
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