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June 26, 2005
Lovin' America By Disparaging It At The Ground Zero MemorialWhat the hell else is there to say? Even upon that sacred ground, as part of a memorial to the dead in the greatest single-day mass-slaughter in recent history, they just can't help themselves from injecting a bit of "sophisticated" anti-Americanism. Karol's hoppin' mad: Surely the memorial wouldn't be used as a hodge-podge of various criticisms on American history. Right? I mean, that would be crazy. What does our sad history of slavery have to do with 19 maniacs killing 3000 of our people in one horrible day? Or, aside from even America-bashing, what would raising the discussion of Ukrainian democracy or on the history of World War II add to our understanding or experience of 9/11? ... For some, there's just never an inappropriate time to castigate America as evil. See, that's how they show their "love" of country and patriotism. It's a higher love, you understand-- one that we couldn't hope to comprehend. The sort of love that expresses itself through constant vitriol. Eh... A lot of guys, I'm told, do say that they show their love through smacking around their wives, just because they burned a casserole. How else they gonna learn? But We Need "Perspective" and "Nuance" Update: Perspective and nuance are nice enough, I guess, but I notice liberals only seem to call for them in some situations. Did any liberals call for "perspective" and "nuance" in response to the racist dragging death of James Byrd, for example? No they did not, and rightly so. It was a horror. There was no "perpsective" necessary to "contextualize" that horror. Liberals did not recoil from calling that act by its proper name-- evil. So spare me the claims that liberals are just such amazing thinkers and so supremely objective that they refuse to call evil by its name as a general matter. They can call evil by its name. In some cases, however, they choose not to, and in fact recoil from attempts to elicit that word from their mouths. Why the distinction? I need it explained to me why the racist murder of one man is "evil" (PS, I agree with that assessment) but the racist/religious-maniacal mass-murder of 2800 calls for "context" and "balance." I need that explained, and I need it explained pretty fucking quickly. I've been asking this question since 9-11 and no one is willing to tell me why it is, precisely, that we should despise James Byrd's killers but "understand the root causes" of Islamofascist rage at the West and its concommitant mass-slaughters. Suppose we put up a memorial to James Byrd. (We probably have.) Now suppose I wanted a so-called "Tolerance Museum" to stand right next to it, in which I would display exhibits meant to explain the racist hatred of some whites against blacks-- the general animosity towards race-based quotas, the (sorry to bring it up, I know it's touchy) much-higher per-capita rates of ciminality among blacks, etc. Liberals would scream. In fact, many conservatives would scream, too, and rightly so, as such an "Tolerance Museum" is either by design or by happenstance an apologia to some extent for the murder. Racial tensions do need to be discussed... but not at a memorial for a man slain due to racist hatred. Why is this such a difficult proposition for some on the left to comprehend? posted by Ace at 04:23 PM
CommentsGovernor Pataki ain't going for it. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on June 26, 2005 04:36 PM
It's as if the 9/11 attack succeeded in its goal of toppling America - the America of the left, that is. In reponse to the attack they have advocated acquiescence to bin Laden's demands, increased sensitivity to the position of Islamic extremists, negotiation with terrorists as if they represent legitimate political entities, re-scultping our foreign policy to reduce our influence in the Middle East, and now, erecting a monument of apology on the site of the attack. Posted by: Geoff on June 26, 2005 04:48 PM
Why is this such a difficult proposition for some on the left to comprehend? Because they hate the United States more than anything else. And what better place to display that hatred than the spot at which 2800 Americans were murdered by some of the few people who hate America as much as they do. Osama could line the leftists up and behead them one by one and as they stood in line, they'd (i) blame the United States not Osama, (ii) try to escape by claiming they hated the United States at least as much as he does and (iii) under no circumstances say Osama was wrong to behead Americans. Their only regret would be that the 'wrong' Americans were being killed. Posted by: max on June 26, 2005 06:11 PM
Ace, only the Sith deal in absolutes. Double-standards are for liberals and the Jedi. Posted by: Moonbat_One on June 26, 2005 06:25 PM
"The sort of love that expresses itself through constant vitriol." Is there any wonder I love Ace so much? Posted by: lauraw on June 26, 2005 08:53 PM
It is important to understand your enemy and his motivations - it helps you strategize better. And it's easy enough now to find translations of what the Islamists are saying and writing, so a conscientious person can get a good idea of what they want and "why they hate us". If something about that was included in a WTC museum, that might not be out of place. What outrages me is that Leftist apologists are not trying to find out what the Islamists really think and want, they just extrapolate from their own criticisms of the US. They are not multi-culturally sensitive, they are wounded cultural narcissists. Posted by: UpNights on June 26, 2005 11:02 PM
James Byrd was he victim of "evil" America - he was a poor black man whose ancestors were dragged into slavery by eeevil Americans - probably before we were an independent nation. And the 9/11 terrorists were'nt really mass murders, they were the noble defenders of an ancent homeland and after all, they killed 3000 Americans. And the liberals wonder why their party of weakness (that the Democratic Party for those who've been living on another planet) can't win elections. Posted by: emmyd on June 27, 2005 05:51 AM
We have already been told what the Islamists need and want. Not having a free press, and living in regimes which ceaselessly disparage the West in order to draw attention away from their shitty governance, and hammered from birth with Islam's 'believe or die' fundamentalism, is it any wonder these people actually believe this tripe. It is hard for us in this part of the world to understand that type of motivation, but there it is. After 9/11 there was some big essay supposedly by Osama that spells it all out. These ain't Jehovahs Witnesses. They won't go away if you buy the Watchtower. Posted by: lauraw on June 27, 2005 10:06 AM
-but you know what? Who gives a rat's ass what they want or their motivation. Posted by: lauraw on June 27, 2005 10:10 AM
max: "(iii) under no circumstances say Osama was wrong to behead Americans. Their only regret would be that the 'wrong' Americans were being killed." Here's a good example of that "If someone did 9/11 to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who DID NOT VOTE for him! Boston, New York, DC, and the planes' destination of California - these were places that voted AGAINST Bush! " Michael Moore Posted by: Master of None on June 27, 2005 10:17 AM
The left would scream bloody murder if Tom Delay perverted the WTC in a similar manner by proposing a special wing to honor the souls of the millions of unborn babies aborted in America. The difference is that I would be there right along with them in protesting such an outrage. Posted by: The Warden on June 27, 2005 12:17 PM
Heck, I thought it was obvious what the liberals' real reason is. Byrd's killers were white, the 9-11 terrorists weren't. White people have gotten away with killing and enslaving non-whites for thousands of years, so it's justice that non-whites get a pass on killing whites, and whites not retaliate agaiinst non-whites. Unless the non-whites are Republicans. Then they're sell-outs, race traitors and Uncle Toms, and they get the same treatment whites get. Or if the whites are Democrats, then they get the same privileges non-whites get. Simple, no? Posted by: on June 27, 2005 11:53 PM
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