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June 16, 2005

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From someone calling himself X-Lefty:

The liberal avenger's post just is another confirmation that my actions of voting Right (which means....sigh...republican) in the national elections.
I hope to return to the Left someday since I disagree with the Right on so many social issues (from stem cells to abortion to public displays of religion) it is not even funny and my peer group is mildly displeased (or think I'm mad) with me since they all votes left (or abstain as some can not bring themselves to vote for a Rep but are to disgusted with the current Left to vote for them).

But I actually do love America and it's ideals of Freedom enough to stand with it in this sad time.

I just have to be very quiet about it or else I am called a Nazi.

The Terrorists are the evil ones, those that kill and oppress, it is not the American Military, not Bush, not even Delay.

I really wish the left would get this through their collective (thickish) skull. Our enemies -- our common enemies -- are those who would kill us in order to impose an alien and barbaric system of religion/dhimmitude upon us.

Hillary Clinton and Howard Dean are not my enemies. They are annoyances, hucksters, political rivals. Rivals are not enemies, at least not in a functioning democracy. We "fight" each other by argument, persuasion, some propaganda (hey, we're all guilty), ad hominem attacks (ditto), campaign contributions, and ultimately the ballot box.

Any on the left who cling to the notion that DeLay, Rove, Bush, Cheney, etc. are "enemies" really ought to re-examine their basic beliefs and their understanding of what civil (meaning not politie, but not violent) political culture and democracy are really about.

I think a lot of people on the left are stupid pricks. I'm sure those on the left feel the same way about those on the right. But "stupid pricks" are not enemies. We are, I hope, still all Americans, and still united under one flag, whether you salute that flag or burn it.

I've mentioned this before, but during a particularly hostile argument during the Clinton Impeachment Wars, someone popped in to say, "You guys all know that when the space-aliens come, we're going to be on the same side, right?"

I do think there are those on the left who consciously or unconsciously side with the enemy. But by and large they just have a very different conception of America than we do, and generally want what's best for America. (They just happen to think "what's best for America" is allowing Paris or the UN to rule us.)

I hope that more on the left can make this distinction as regards their "enemies" on the right.

posted by Ace at 03:09 PM

Comments

Uh, Ace? Trust me, when the space-aliens come, we will *NOT* all be on the same side.

I, for one, welcome our new space-alien overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted blog personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on June 16, 2005 03:17 PM

If we are talking of the leftists and not the liberals, then most are our enemies. The libs are merely people with whom we have political disagreements.

Posted by: Conservative Chris on June 16, 2005 03:47 PM

Actually, this raises an interesting question:

When the space-aliens come, will we be on the same side as the terrorists?

I'm serious. I mean, as serious as you can be when ripping off a Harry Turtledove series.

Posted by: Pompous on June 16, 2005 03:47 PM

It's too late; the aliens are already here. And their Overlord is none other than Charles Johnson at LGF.
Bwahahahahaha....

Posted by: odrady on June 16, 2005 04:21 PM

Ace, that was a fantastic post. Man, oh man does it hit home with me.

Chris:

"If we are talking of the leftists and not the liberals, then most are our enemies. The libs are merely people with whom we have political disagreements."

THAT, sir, is EXACTLY right!

I have had it up to HERE with the "leftists". I'm a proud Liberal, all the way; but keep those damned, anti-American bastards the hell away from me. If they are "anti-America", then YES, they ARE my "enemy".

Posted by: Gun-Toting Liberal on June 16, 2005 04:24 PM

I'm with Dave on this one. The advanced troops aka "The Greys" are already here. It's best not to struggle, as that just pisses 'em off. Believe me, they have no problem controlling our puny little monkey-brains.

Posted by: Enas Yorl on June 16, 2005 04:40 PM

I would be happy to team up with any gun toting liberal to rid the U.S. of America haters. Of course in a non violent sort of way. I think.

Posted by: Dman on June 16, 2005 04:50 PM

Dave at Garfield Ridge and Enas Yorl -- big fans of anal probes.

Posted by: on June 16, 2005 05:32 PM

" since I disagree with the Right on so many social issues (from stem cells to abortion to public displays of religion)"

Hey lefty, repeat that line when you go to your next george w gump rally and we'll see how welcomed you feel. Get a fucking clue, numbnuts.

Posted by: yellow dog on June 16, 2005 05:44 PM

You conservatives need to explicitly acknowledge that Iraq is a contrived clusterfuck... That we were deceived... That going in had nothing to do with the genuine terrorists who would harm us.

You have no credibility as long as you congratulate yourselves over what a remarkable success the Iraq campaign has been in the global war on terror.

We'll talk once you start being honest with yourselves.

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger on June 16, 2005 06:30 PM

X-Lefty: "I disagree with the Right on ... public displays of religion"

God help us.

Posted by: Punches Pilot on June 16, 2005 08:21 PM

The Liberal Avenger -- who needs a real life anal probing.

Posted by: on June 16, 2005 08:25 PM

Liberal Averger - Could you please consider chanding your "tag" to "Leftist Avenger". Liberals are currently trying to rebuild their patriotism bona fides..

Posted by: Cedarford on June 16, 2005 08:26 PM

"Liberal Avenger", my ASS. You disgust me. Stop calling yourself a "liberal". You know nothing about "Liberalism", you fucking IDIOT. You need to look up the word "liberal" in the dictionary and learn a little bit more about it's roots, from the word "liber", and what it means.

Go here to learn more about the topic and to learn why you are NOT welcomed by me to call yourself a "Liberal":

http://www.guntotingliberal.com/2005/06/are-you-absolutely-positive-youre.html

Off the top of my head, I'd say a clear derivitave would be "LIBERATE". You dumbass, we've just liberated MILLIONS of women in Afghanistan, which I'm sure you're fine with, but we've also just LIBERATED a bunch of oppressed Iraqis as well. If you don't approve of LIBERATING the oppressed, you give LIBERALISM a HORRIBLE name, you far-left sicko. We outnumber you and we WILL take our party back from you anti-American bastards. COUNT on it.

God DAMN, these fuckers piss me off!

Posted by: Gun-Toting Liberal on June 16, 2005 08:53 PM

> You have no credibility as long as you congratulate yourselves over what a remarkable success the Iraq campaign has been in the global war on terror.

Good thing most of us don't do that, then. We're still waiting for you to offer some better ideas.

Posted by: Guy T. on June 17, 2005 12:43 AM

"I've mentioned this before, but during a particularly hostile argument during the Clinton Impeachment Wars, someone popped in to say, "You guys all know that when the space-aliens come, we're going to be on the same side, right?"

I would have to disagree with you Ace. The best example of what I think might happen if space aliens were to invade can be found in John Ringo's 8th book or his Posleen invasion series "Watch on the Rhine"

The Aliens are without a doubt coming to invade and devour the people of terra and the leftist wankers
1) think it's all a lie by BushHittlerHaliburton to dominate the world.
and 2) Once the Posleen do invade and start to lay waste to huge areas of earth, they blame BushHittler Halibrton for the invasion, claiming that we caused the invasion by helping the other aliens who came to us for help.

I find it difficult at best to see any other reaction fromf people suffering from the mental disease known as "Modern Liberalisim"

Posted by: Mordwyn on June 17, 2005 09:06 AM

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"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source"
Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held.

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🚨ED MILIBAND [a Minister in Starmer's government] SAYS KEIR STARMER WILL RESIGN AS PRIME MINISTER

He has reportedly reassured Labour MP's that Starmer will be resigning following the disastrous results tonight

It's over

"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)

No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.

Only a cult does this.

Now they've lost 84%.

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If this continues Labour loses 2,148 seats tonight.

That is much worse than the worst case predictions I’ve seen.

Cataclysmic

Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.

Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...

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🚨 BREAKING: Labour have lost 80% of all seats contested as of 2:25 AM.<
br> If this continues, Keir Starmer will be out of office next week.

Reform has surged and projected to pick up between 1700-2100 seats.

Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing.
Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult.
Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending.

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Tonight’s results are calamitous for Labour. Not just for Keir Starmer's leadership, but for the very future of the party

STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98.
Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years.
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Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45
Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%.
I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens.
REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.

Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs.
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