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June 02, 2005
How To Drug Friends & Influence PeopleOxytocin -- not Oxycontin, the painkiller known as "Hillbilly Heroin" -- makes rufies look like Diet Shasta:
University students who inhaled the [oxytocin] hormone in a nasal spray were discovered to be far more trusting of one another -- eager, in fact, to hand over money to strangers in investment deals. Somehow I can use this information in my quest for crazy-blog money. Anyone interested in purchasing Ace of Spades HQ potpourri? The results suggest trust can be bottled and used to forge commercial relationships. Oxytocin levels have long been known to spike with sexual climax or influence the production of mothers' milk, but the new study suggests they are also "the biological basis of trust among humans." You had me at "sexual climax." The rest of it was just frosting on the cake.
... Shut up, really? "However our findings may have positive clinical implications for patients with mental disorders." Indeed. Patient with mental disorder + oxytocin = Ace stealing blind from lunatics and retiring to St. Kitts. The study already has some cynical scientists musing about whether political operatives will try to crop-dust crowds with oxytocin at rallies... I wonder what sort of "political operatives" they might mean? ...whereas more hopeful researchers see the hormone as a potential boon in treating people with social phobias, or rare genetic disorders that cause children to trust everyone they meet. Social phobias? Check. I'm on my way to the pharmacist right now. ... Um, isn't "impaired judgment about a mate's character" the glue that holds couples together in the first place? We should be praising the Miracle Hormone Oxytocin, not slandering it. And besides -- if you just jumped into bed with someone you just met, aren't you already exhibiting imparied judgment? If you ever suspected that an awful lot of attraction (both sexual and platonic) was just chemically based, this would seem to be support that theory. Somewhere out there are people who can pheremonically trigger increased oxycotin levels in you, and you'll like them and trust them, for no better reason than they sweat agreeable molecules.
Yes! A Military Application!: Dave offers: Anyway, another use for the "trust hormone" that the story didn't mention, and quite relevant for today: interrogations. Too true. A drug that sort of blisses you out (and gives you kick-ass orgasms, should you get lucky) could be used as an aid in some extremely gentle interrogations. But the civil rights absolutists will flip out, of course. Beth Update: Oxytocin is apparently also being used to control premature ejaculation. The Hubris blog has a non-drug alternative. posted by Ace at 01:31 PM
Comments"In fact, some sex counsellors warn new lovers not to jump into bed with one another, as orgasms increase levels of oxytocin and can thus impair judgment about a mate's character. " This is why I'm an inconsiderate lover. I wouldn't want to impair my partner's judgment. Posted by: Pompous on June 2, 2005 01:38 PM
Heard this on NPR coming in this morning. They had one of the guys who did the study calling in, and he seemed to imply that the "point of saturation" beyond which extra oxytocin has no effect is pretty low -- if your brain has a fair amount already, introducing it artificially has little influence. Still, I'm waiting until they start pumping the shit into the air ducts at the used car dealership... Posted by: on June 2, 2005 01:45 PM
Interesting... Very interesting. I wonder if dogs naturally produce the stuff, because no matter how many times they run away when I let them off the leash, I just can't seem to resist their hypnotic reassurances that THIS TIME it will be different. Posted by: Dogstar on June 2, 2005 01:49 PM
Are you having sex with the dogs? Posted by: on June 2, 2005 01:52 PM
Oxytocin levels have long been known to spike with sexual climax... Wow, you're not supposed to experience waves of a mixture of paranoia, loathing, and guilt? Learn something new every day. Posted by: Hubris on June 2, 2005 01:54 PM
you'll like them and trust them, for no better reason than they sweat agreeable molecules. I've liked and trusted people on less. Posted by: Dave in Texas on June 2, 2005 01:58 PM
Kind of old news. . . but it's been getting press lately, so this is okay. Then there's this story about dapoxetine, which works with oxytocin levels to fight premature ejaculation. . . and, uh, apparently give users real kick-ass 'gasms. I'm sure you're with me on this when I say: sweet. Can you imagine mixing this stuff with Cialis? Four-hour explosion zones, baby! Men would finally stop doing work altogether. As for the quote "orgasms increase levels of oxytocin and can thus impair judgment about a mate's character," let me just say you don't even need a mate. You get hopped up on this stuff, you're liable to self-pleasure yourself to anything-- Montgomery Ward's lingerie catalogs, the Ellen DeGeneres Show, even Animaniacs. Not that I ever did any of that, of course. Anyway, another use for the "trust hormone" that the story didn't mention, and quite relevant for today: interrogations. I can't wait for the bleating from Amnesty International when we start spritzing Gitmo prisoners with trust spray. But hey, more efficient than thumbscrews and Koran-flushings, so whatever works. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on June 2, 2005 02:07 PM
How much do you want to bet someone is seriously arguing that this explains how Chimpy McHitlerburton stole the 2004 election? Posted by: David C on June 2, 2005 02:09 PM
Dave at Garfield Ridge, Posted by: Hubris on June 2, 2005 02:12 PM
Obviously, Karl Rove is up to his old tricks again.... Posted by: brak on June 2, 2005 02:17 PM
Animaniacs? I thought that was just me ... "There are dozens of us! DOZ-ENS!!!" Posted by: Knemon on June 2, 2005 02:20 PM
In the immortal words of Nelson Muntz, SMELL YOU LATER. Posted by: Dman on June 2, 2005 02:21 PM
Right now, dozens of companies are racing to be the first to flood the market with oxytocin-laced cologne, roll-on deodorant... The possibilities are endless. In six months everybody will be walking around in a permanent oxytocin fog, but if everyone's using the stuff we'll be back to a level playing field. In the meantime, thanks to this post I can get a jump on the crowd and enjoy four or five months of moderately successful dating. Impairing the judgment of my prospective partners is pretty much my only hope. Posted by: utron on June 2, 2005 02:22 PM
Utron-- are you kidding me? I'm shocked I have yet to get spam that advertises "VIAGGGRA CIALICE OXYTOOCIN." Should hit tomorrow, methinks. Oh, and Hubris? We want medicine that prevents ejaculation for a little while, not for ever. Seriously, you may have a safe, non-invasive alternative to vasectomy there. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on June 2, 2005 02:29 PM
Utron, how would you discreetly get this stuff up your date's nose? Posted by: lauraw on June 2, 2005 02:37 PM
Lauraw, I'm assuming it will gently waft into her trusting nostrils as one component of my aftershave or whatever. If she has to actually snort the stuff then I'm back to dating coke whores, which sort of defeats the purpose of the maneuver. Posted by: utron on June 2, 2005 02:46 PM
Utron, how would you discreetly get this stuff up your date's nose? Well, you could spray it on your nards, but I guess if she's in a position to get a whiff of that you've already kinda sealed the deal. Then again, maybe you could get her to do dirty stuff or something. Posted by: ace on June 2, 2005 02:48 PM
Hubris, that photo on your site (not Rosie, dammit) had me rolling on the ground! Great pose. Posted by: Dogstar on June 2, 2005 02:50 PM
I read the article and the posts, but I might have missed it. However, there isn't one single mention of what oxytocin is usually used for--to induce labor. It's also called Pitocin. Conspiracy alert: For all those women who had to have labor induced with oxytocin, I wonder how much got into the baby before it was born. Is the medical establishment creating little, trusting sheep? ;-D Posted by: cardeblu on June 2, 2005 02:52 PM
Thanks Dogstar - one of my twin sons was kind enough to provide an author photo. He'll probably sue me later on in life. Posted by: Hubris on June 2, 2005 02:57 PM
Never mind. I'm blind. "For humans, the hormone has been produced synthetically since the 1950s, used by obstetricians to help induce labour." Posted by: cardeblu on June 2, 2005 02:59 PM
Inducing labor was mentioned in the article, Cardeblu. Apparently the stuff is also used to boost milk production in dairy cattle. I'm definitely starting to wonder about the physical side-effects of this miracle drug. Posted by: utron on June 2, 2005 03:00 PM
So, you don't even have to drink the Kool-Aid any more. Posted by: ed in texas on June 2, 2005 03:09 PM
Liquor is still quicker. Prob'ly cheaper, too. Posted by: Joan of Argghh! on June 2, 2005 03:51 PM
Jesus Mary and Joseph, I can't believe you retards didn't see the crop-dusting mention. hehehe crop-dusting.... Posted by: Dave@fat kid's on June 2, 2005 10:09 PM
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