I've seen bits and pieces of Saget's on- stage material and quite liked it. I think intialy it's the shock of seeing Danny Tanner using the word "fuck" but then the comedy bits were pretty good. Thanks for the link, i'll check it out.

Norm MacDonald did an appearance on the Stern radio show circa 1998 to promote his movie "Dirty Work", which was directed by Saget, and it was agreed that Saget's standup was pretty dirty before he got 'Full House." Hard to picture it, though - he looked so clean cut...

Coincidence - the Anchoress has a thing about Penn & Teller today too. The conclusion of Penn's comments is fine - he's got a good sense of reality about the people in the red states, and how silly it is for people in Hollywood to be calling "stupid" people who can do heart surgery, fix cars, program machines, etc. But he doesn't address the curious point that the people in those red states DON'T particularly like his brand of potty-mouth humor. So if it isn't because they're stupid, why is that?

Dickless dad? I thought he was playing a squkey clean little GAY dad.

I wouldn't say Gilette has potty-mouth humor generally. At least, no more than any other professional comedian. From what I gather, it's a bleak, depressing trade, and jokes like "The Aristocrats" help ease the pain.

Apart from the title, Penn & Teller's "Bullshit!" is quite a red-state-sensibility show; it debunks global warming, for crying out loud.

Maybe it's because I grew up with his authoritative voice boomingly announcing upcoming shows on Comedy Central (even back when it was The Comedy Channel, before the Ha! takeover), but I've always liked Penn. For one thing, he gave great sound bytes for "Michael Moore Hates America."

If there's a celebrity who gets it, it's Penn Gilette.

Penn Jilette's not really a motor mouth; he just got used to carrying Teller's end of the conversation, too.

No, he really is. I saw him on Celebrity Poker Showdown and he would not shut the fuck up. He was boorish and obnoxious and, worse yet, not funny.

I kind of like him. I like his Bullshit! show. I used to like his magic act. But the guy has to learn to give his fucking mouth a fucking rest.

"I used to suck dick for coke. Did you ever suck dick for marijuana?"
"Um, no, I can't say that I have."
"I didn't think so."
"Boo this man! Booooooo..."

The first time I saw Saget was on "Evening at the Improv". The dirtiest joke that made it on the show was a part of a song where he sings "I moved some dog poo aside, another quarter for me!" Other than that, his humor was wry and self-deprecating, like AFHV.

I don't object to hearing obscenities and I use them myself. But a continuous stream of them is just not funny, and it's not a substitute for actual humor and wit. Call me a prude or naive, but I like the fact that TV filters out most of it.