While I agree that the FBI has it's head up it's ass, simple logic tells us it wasn't Al Qaeda that did the 2001 Anthrax attacks.

Because the envelopes with advanced militarized anthrax had warnings.

Al Qaeda doesn't do warnings. To them, the perfect thing would be the letters was opened with an innocuous grade school message inside, the puff of dust and powder that seemed to disapear before hitting the floor - ignored by Daschle/Leahy Senate staff....then the wait until hundreds of staff and members of Congress began showing up dying and uncurable at various hospitals and the true mass panic started.

The two solutions are a domestic terrorist that never had a goal of killing many Americans, or a "friendly country" with advanced biowar capabilities eager to use an anthrax scare primarily to alert America of the danger and further manipulate America to go after Muslim countries, which would serve their national interests as well.

The FBI says it was likely a domestic terrorist - I don't have high confidence in them, but that does seem the most probable. The so-called "friendly countries" with advanced biowar capability that have shown themselves not adverse to using their covert intelligence operatives doing "wet" operations include Russia, China, N Korea, Israel, and France. And Israel and France both worked with the Ames Strain rather than the Vox strain the countries of the old Soviet Bloc worked with for biowar.

So, maybe one day we will know. The FBI may actually get it right. Domestic terrorist we already found and quietly neutralized rather than put up for trial and embarassment of the US biological defense establishment.....or we find out it was a false flag operation and the country involved has the clout to prevent disclosure to the American public and it remains a top state secret..

Actually, the FBI had reasons to think that the anthrax was a domestic action. My father was in the FBI as an anti-terror/WMD agent at the time, and while not directly involved in this case, did know people who were. They couldn't release why, for the same reason the police will not release facts in some cases, but there was evidence that this was domestic, not international.

"... it was a false flag operation and the country involved has the clout to prevent disclosure to the American public and it remains a top state secret.."

A conspiracy to attack the US with WMD's by a media-controlling ally? Wow, Cedarford, whom could you possibly mean?

Jackass.

Oh, that was me, calling you a jackass, Cedarford. I need to identify myself or AIPAC won't send the check.

I'm not sure why this is presented as a left-right issue. I don't doubt that al Qaeda is actively looking for opportunities to acquire WMDs of any kind; I can't think of a person I respect who doubts this. And I would be happier to find that the 2001(is this right, or was it 2002?) anthrax attacks were by alQaeda than that they were by domestic terrorists. Of course, what I'd most like to find out is that they were the work of a Ted Kazynski lunatic, which might contribute to that seeming the most likely to me.

Ok, to provide argument fodder I will point out that the article cited does nothing in the least to actually connect alQaeda to the attacks. To quote:

Two biological weapons experts who have read the letters said in interviews Friday that the letters suggested that the laboratory construction was at an early stage and that it would have most likely been at least two to three years, if not more, before the Qaeda team would have been able to produce enough anthrax to use as a weapon.

So the timing is all off for this lab building project to have become an anthrax production project that delivered anthrax. Also, were there tests of the anthrax for some sort of production signature? If so, does anyone know the results? I'm seriously asking, I don't know the answers, but the answers would rule somethings in/out wrt to were the anthrax was produced.

Another sort of chilling thing that I noticed in the article was that what they acquired/tried to acquire seemed to my non-Biochemist eye to be the things you'd need once you were about to acquire or perhaps HAD the pathogen.

I know this argues against myself from the last couple of paragraphs. That's just the way I am.

See-Dubya. Tsk, tsk, hypersensitivity. If you look at it objectively, you see 4 possibilities of who was behind the anthrax attacks:

1. The Far Left favors rogue elements of the official US Gov't, possibly going up to Karl Rove himself, purely to spread fear and legitimize the illegal Bush Presidency and take away precious Muslim civil liberties...

2. A domestic terrorist. Most likely.

3. Homicidal Muslims out to destroy us sent the letters with warnings inside to ensure few if any died. After that mercy, the Islamists have refrained from any other attacks on the infidels they wish to kill in mass numbers.

4. A false flag operation involving a foreign power with a sophisticated biowar program, an intelligence service that does overseas killings or other dangerous actions, and who sought to pin the attacks on the Muslims to provoke a US counterattack. Several countries meet that criteria.

***********************

Theories 1, 3 appear to collapse on logic. Theory 2 is the most plausible. But Theory 4 cannot be ruled out.

But See Dubya ignored I said a domestic terrorist was the probable culprit, and noticed of the nations I listed that one was The Country That IS Never to be Criticized. So he complained bitterly about That Country being on the list of nations capable of doing a cautionary anthrax attack.

Why is that, See-Dubya???

Well, mainly because I dislike you, Cedarford.

2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive, by the way. Last I heard they were looking at a Middle Eastern fellow as a possible suspect instead of Stephen Hatfill.

Seedy wrote:
The Country That IS Never to be Criticized.

No, the country that should not exist, according to people like yourself.

If Israel didn't exist, you'd be one of the asshats comparing us Jews to filthy parasitic rats who are culturally incapable of having our own state, much like your hero did in that book he wrote.

But of course, now that we do have a nation, all of the son-of-bitches like yourself want to push us into the Mediterranean.

Cocksuckers can never be happy. Unless Jews die, that is.

That was me above.

Cedarford's stuff, when he isn't going all Princess Leia on us (Jew!), isn't bad. I rather suspect it was a domestic whackjob myself. I can't really see Al Qaeda wasting the invaluable first shots of an assassination attempt with warnings. Sure, it caused a lot of panic and screwed with the USPS, but they could have gotten all that and piles of dead staffers (if not the senators themselves) by not doing warnings. Smells to me like a lunatic who hoped that Al Qaeda would take the blame.

Incidentally, when Cedarford starts up with his "Zionist" stuff, I just mentally replace certain words, e.g. "Jewery" with "ninjas." Just a suggestion.

What do you think libs would have to say if the "undiclosed" location turned out to be Baghdad?

Whatever happened to Hatfill?

What do you think libs would have to say if the "undiclosed" location turned out to be Baghdad?

I asked earlier why this is being framed as a left-right issue and the quote above sheds light on the answer. It is being framed by the right as a left-right issue in part because the right is still desperately searching for WMDs that would justify the pre-OIF claims. Sorry, the WMDs weren't there and the administration knew it at the very least because the intel we gave to the UNSCOM/IAEA all turned out to be dry holes.

"...or a "friendly country" with advanced biowar capabilities eager to use an anthrax scare primarily to alert America of the danger and further manipulate America to go after Muslim countries, which would serve their national interests as well."

This demands notice.

Admittedly, this is classic Cedarford. However, he waits until the end of the FOURTH PARAGRAPH to spring it on us.

C'mon, C-ford! Don't bury the lede! I'm a busy man, and I don't have time to wade through endless reams of rational discourse before I get to that juicy anti-semitic goodness! Please, give your fans what they want -- whacko groundless speculations about shadowy Zionist conspiracies behind every tragedy -- without the chaff.

Plus, I think you're getting too fancy. Far be it from me to criticize the past master at untermensch -bashing, but subtlety does not become you. No more of these veiled references to "friendly countries!" Don't swaddle your true foe by suggesting that Russia or France might be behind these crimes! Come on out and tell us the real villians.

In fact, the kids watching at home can help us. Say it with me now:

"It was the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!"

Brought to you by the letters N and F, and the number 6,000,000.