Bad Boys. Sean Penn star. (Viking) got blowed up and (Horowitz) built the bomb. I think

That was me bitches. Cocaine is a hell of a drug!!

But who played Viking?

He also played a large villain in a sci-fi/fantasy movie everyone here has seen at least two or three times.

Not that it was really good. It just had an interesting premise and it was on cable an awful lot.

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The City That Never Sleeps should be home to nothing less than the Towers Than Would Not Die.

Amen

The people of New York and America at large, all wounded to some extent that day deserve, no demand, than a new Twin Towers rise like a pheonix from the ashes of the old;

Why do they "deserve" anything? Why are they in a position to "demand" anything? The nation poured it's heart out, gave them 20 billion in special money, another 3 billion or so in private charity.

NYC frittered it's moment away trying to sue one another for an act of war, and insisting that they were the world's Greatest and Most Special victims ever of warfare. Almost 4 years have passed, the country has moved on, various NYC special interest groups squabbled so much they don't even have a Plan for rebuilding, and the lawsuits are just starting.

If they can get private financing to rebuild structures that were economically not working pre-9//11, more power to them. I don't want to see the taxpayer in Missouri underwriting New York vanity.

23 billion was enough. Whining only works for a while, and only when others are willing to humor the litigious, self-absorbed New Yorkers.

The last thing Manhattan needs is another phallic office block full of real estate barons.

Manhattan needs affordable housing. Manhattan needs public works projects. Manhattan needs space that serves the needs of ALL people, not just the wealthy.

Why do you people want an expensive and ugly boondoogle that will enrich the bosses while screwing the working class?

I'm a Republican. I don't really care about the working class. :)

Manhattan already moved on. Quite a while ago.

Why do you people want an expensive and ugly boondoogle that will enrich the bosses while screwing the working class?

I'm a Republican too and I, for one, do care about the working class.

Ha, ha! Ok, seriously though. No need build for these 'working class' you speak of. My doorman told me they prefer to live underground, anyway - old, unused subway lines, I think. Personally, I couldn't imagine (how do they play polo down there? Do their ponies see in the dark?)... but to each their own.

Unless it consists solely of pens for those of the working classthat we eat as food, there's just no point to so-called "affordable housing"

yeah, put bum villas and murder projects up in the middle of the most expensive real estate on the planet, captain abnormal.

Unless it consists solely of pens for those of the working class that we eat as food

You still eat raised-in-pen? I switched over to free range working class. Raised on a farm upstate. Much more humane (and much less stringy).

I'll have my maid send over my supplier's number (and a few goood recipes). Bon Appetit.

LOL!!
I love this site.
I'd rather spend time with you people, than with the finest people in the world.

Now that's a back-handed compliment if I've ever heard one. :)

lauraW,

Where's that from? I know that line... is it from a Western comedy?

Ha-ha.
Almost put an asterisk next to it and asked 'Where?'

Roxanne. Steve Martin, Darryl Hannah etc

"Why do you people want an expensive and ugly boondoogle that will enrich the bosses while screwing the working class?"

Lets be honest. Just to annoy you, thats why.

Ah... a comedy, and sort of a western. Well, there's townpeople and such.

Anybody here ever been hired by a poor person?

Anybody?
Bueller??

"(how do they play polo down there? Do their ponies see in the dark?)..."

You bastard! You made me pee myself.

Anybody here ever been hired by a poor person?
Anybody?
Bueller??

"Fuck the lower 99%" Conservatives love that line.

The Saudis agree. Not only does everyone have to be hired by a very rich person, they all come from the same family.

Iraqis think they are more progressive than Saudis. There, all hiring was in the hands of not one royal family, but by members of the wealthy and powerful Tikriti clan.

In most advanced nations, while the person doing the hiring may have more money than the hiree, in about half of hires, the hiring is simply done by an agent of the collective owners or the government.

It belies the notion that concentrating wealth in the hands of a few equates to new job creation, as President Dubya painfully is aware of after 4 years of wealth transfers and few private sector jobs outside low-paying service sector jobs and great new Gunnint jobs as Bush exceeds even LBJ in "growing" the Gov, and flat worker wages. The fatcats raking it in under Dubya have made few capital investments....better they just sock it in real estate and T-Bills to fund the debt Dubya created to give them their tax cuts and corporate welfare in the 1st place.

People, STARVE IT.

Just out of curiousity, has anyone EVER seen our favorite fact-challenged moonbat AND Olberman together, in the same place, at the same time?

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Hmmm...

Actually yes. It was on a grainy video with some disco playing in the background. Ernest Borgnine, Saran Wrap, Al Gore, and salad dressing were involved. I'd really rather not talk about it...

And I'll never crash a party at David Brock's again.

ATTN: DON MYERS
you're a little piddling Kossak. You were probably born somewhere else, and saying anything about NYC's "working class" while your own ass can afford Manhattan rental rates marks you as a fraud. unless you murdered a rent-stabilized gannie, which just marks you, period.

Did anybody pick DogStar out of the crowd of Holy-Water waving morons outside T. Schiavo's hospice?

Which one were you, DogStar, the one with chewing tobacco stains splattered on the blue-checked shirt hanging over the beer gut?

BTW, still posting your 4 affidavits from the "highly reliable" RTL nurse experts proving murder attempts, physical abuse, and Terri's "regular conversations"??

You sorry, dumb, rube....

When ever anyone says "rising like a phoenix," I always want to reply by saying "rising like a phoenix, from Arizona." One of my favorite Seinfeld lines, heck, Frank had so many good lines in that show.

The NY Post's real estate columnist Steve Cuozzo today notes that the Freedom Tower is running into problems pre-leasing it's space, but the rebuilt WTC would contain 4 times as much. The only way the original WTC got leased up was by putting state offices in there. Does that make sense, putting state paper pushers in Class A office space?

I ask again, should we rebuild the towers and not be able to lease them, what exactly would we be telling the world? No matter the reality, it would be percieved as cowardice. This is a very real concern--the demand for downtown office space is okay, but hardly indicative of any desire to add that much new space. It's easy for Trump to demagogue this, but until he's at risk, I'd take his grandstanding as noise and little else.

That's right now, but what about the future?

Is it impossible to perceive a time in the future when more capacity will be very badly needed?

Not impossible, but difficult. More and more telecommuting, higher residential RE in the immediate area both point to slackened demand rather than any increase. And what do we do in the meantime? Who's going to make the payments on the place--a huge mortgage, outrageous insurance and unbelievable utility bills just to heat the thing?

But just as important, what does the spectre of an empty Trade Center say about us to those who are more than willing to spin any failure as a sign of American weakness?

I would like to see giant statues of flying monkeys at the top of the new towers.

And to whoever said we should force the UN to occupy the top floors- you are a genius.

Trump is 100% correct.

Muslim extremists took down the towers because they were a powerful symbol. Rebuilding them sends a message to those people: "You can't stop us." Those twin towers will look like the middle digits of both hands.

People wrote personal messages on the plywood wall next to the WTC site after 9/11. Some messages expressed personal loss, and others expressed anger. My personal favorite: "It's still New York."

And, yes, New York needs the office space. The UN has been complaining for years that their headquarters is severely overcrowded. Fine. We move them into the new twin towers. That sends a message, too: "Better figure out what to do about terrorism. The next time terrorist bring down the twin towers, the UN gets crushed."

Yes. You have your finger on the pulse, Dogstar.

Gargoyles. That's what is lacking in so much modern architecture.

Put some scowling granite up there that looks like Kofi Annan and some of our other friends.

Hey, you get the UN to move in there I'll sit over here and STFU. With an anchor like that, your back in business.

How about if they put up a building that looks like a gigantic crusifix? Maybe even slap a gigantic Jesus up on there? Hell, I'm and athiest, and I still think that would piss off all the right people!