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May 13, 2005

What's The Matter With Minnesota?

A while ago James Lilkes noted the new ad campaign by the "Friends of the Minneapolis Library" (sworn opponents, he notes dryly, of the "Enemies of the Minneapolis Library") using Mao -- yes, Chairman Mao, the guy who killed, oh, tens of millions of his people or so (who's counting?) -- in a cute, attention-getting ad campaign.

Check out the ad here. And the ad copy: **A former librarian, who created the 3rd largest economy in the world (and least diverse collection of books).

Well, I guess that bit about the "least diverse collection of books" is a dig, but, as Lilkes notes, he had greater sins, such as creating a failry diverse collection of corpses.

But the Friends of the Minneapolis Library isn't quite done yet. Admitting their campaign is a bit controversial (at least among the troglodytes who presumably don't use books for anything but kindling anyways), they explain:

In the most politically charged ads, MPL, which is predicated on free speech, tolerance and the open exchange of ideas, is contrasted with Mao and [J. Edgar] Hoover, who both worked in libraries early in their lives but pursued policies antithetical to an open society (to put it mildly).

Lileks responds today:

Mao and {J. Edgar] Hoover. Peas in a pod. I’m no Hoover fan, but they’re not exactly in the same league. Besides, Hoover’s big target was the Reds, whose vision was far more antithetical to an open society than anything J. Edgar dreamed up. There, I’ve said it: Mao was worse than Hoover. And these distinctions are important. There are of course many right-thinking people who will agree, but they squirm in their seat as they do so, waiting for a chance to launch a BUT missile into the gap. The effect of communism on some countries was of course horrible, in a sense, BUT you had to admit that the McCarthy witch trials and blacklisting of screenwriters is a dark chapter in American history, no?

They may not like communists, but they really don’t like anti-communists. Communists may be deluded, but they meant well in some abstract sense that surely has to count for something. Whereas God knows what the anti-communists really want.

Lileks suggests his own "controversial" ad campaign. Gotta admit-- it does get attention. And that's all that really matters, right?

Lileks notes that the FML isn't really endorsing Mao. But their subsequent defensive explanation also makes it clear they don't think Mao is any worse than J. Edgar Hoover.

It's a bit tiresome to keep making this point. But sometime in the future lefties have to give up the idea that Mao and Stalin and Lenin and Castro were basically just good folks who were a little seduced by power, but who basically had the "good of the masses" foremost in their mind and just broke a few too many eggs to make their utopian omlette.

Thanks to NickS.


posted by Ace at 11:11 AM
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10 million?

More like 60, 40 of them in 2 years.

Posted by: Russell Wardlow on May 13, 2005 11:14 AM

That would be J. Edgar Hoover, not Herbert- loose shit, man...

Posted by: Kevin J on May 13, 2005 11:18 AM

KevinJ,

I swear, that was just a brainfart. Thanks.

RW,

I've upped the number per your correction. Thanks.

Posted by: ace on May 13, 2005 11:21 AM

Those nutty Lutherans!

Posted by: Dave in Texas on May 13, 2005 11:28 AM

I would like to know what's in YOUR FBI file, ace.

Posted by: on May 13, 2005 11:43 AM

I have always contended that leftists were born without the gene that allows for the ability to make logical comparisons. I will concede though that there are a few conservative mutants out there with the same problem.

Bush = Hitler
Mao = Hoover
Vietnam = any Republican military action
Laura Bush = Wonkette ( malkin mutant)

Posted by: Dman on May 13, 2005 11:45 AM

"Those nutty Lutherans!"

Just to clarify. Those would be Scandinavian Lutherans. Us German Lutherans aren't all that fond of Mao.

Posted by: Master of None on May 13, 2005 11:46 AM

M o N,

good to know, thanks.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on May 13, 2005 11:47 AM

For some reason, high school social studies spent much, much more time on Hitler than Mao. This, I think, is one reason why Mao is much much less maligned in the minds of Americans than Hitler, and why Lileks ad campaign (featuring Adolf) really sends shivers down my spine. If only people knew more about psychopathic Mao there would, I suspect-and hope, be more dissent. But folks just don't know. They think he's a funny looking bald guy in a ridiculous suit. How librarians would wage this campaign-though they do make a dig- is beside me.

Posted by: MyCountry on May 13, 2005 11:47 AM

comparing Mao to Hoover is like comparing Stalin to Charles Manson because "they both killed a few people"

Posted by: mtnbiker on May 13, 2005 12:07 PM

I've never understood why almost all Communist sh!theads turned into fun pop icons, while bad guys on the right were just bad, no fun at all. But it sounds like MyCountry is onto something. Most people only know what they learned in school--i.e., virtually nothing. So Mao is a funny guy, not a monster.

Good thing the neo-Nazis didn't learn this technique. If they'd exploited the Hitler=Charlie Chaplin meme, the guy would be an advertising icon and Congress would be crawling with idiots who thought that Nazism was vaguely "cool." You know, those snazzy uniforms and everything.

Posted by: utron on May 13, 2005 12:09 PM

Utron, could you imagine vegans/vegetarians promoting Hitler as a vegetarian! Nothing against vegetarians. Or the ASPCA championing him as a dog lover (of course there were those occasions where he did whip Blondie). What a bastard.... Now, if Crest were to wage a pro-Democratic anti-cavity campaign they'd make $ and champion anti-communism at the same time. Here's the commercial: Pan-in to Mao brushing his teeth with tea (which he did til' they all fell out). They pan to Dusty brushing teeth with Crest. What sales they'd have! And our viewing public would soon learn to hate Mao as much as Hitler, by way of TV of course!

Posted by: MyCountry on May 13, 2005 12:27 PM

MyCountry, according to one of his biographers, in his later years Mao's teeth were totally coated with slimy, disgusting green-tea gunk. That's an image that could destroy any lingering coolness about the Chairman.

On the downside, it would also make it impossible to take the Chinese as seriously as they deserve. I mean, look what poor dental hygiene did to the Brits. Nobody is going to be afraid of six hundred million screaming, gucky-toothed Chinese.

Posted by: utron on May 13, 2005 12:41 PM

Good intentions my ass. It takes remarkably little reading of Lenin's own works to get the program completely. cf "...purge the nation of all sorts of harmful insects." (1917) Wonder if Mousie Dung learned anything from that.

Posted by: Mr.Kurtz on May 13, 2005 12:48 PM

Old memory, mine- I read that biography and thought that after the slime came the fall out. Funny, Mao brushing his teeth with tea is the one vivid image that sticks with me after having read that book. I do also remember him swimming- constantly swimming- in (the Yellow? river), which counters the idea that baptism by water washes away sin- at least in Mao's case!

Posted by: MyCountry on May 13, 2005 12:49 PM

Actually, Mao swimming in any body of water would be a good reason to avoid drinking it. ;-)

Posted by: utron on May 13, 2005 01:10 PM

Not to mention Mao's fondness for little girls, of course. This guy was a winner all around. Quick, anything else we can put this mass murdering pedophile's mug on? Let's provoke us some thought!

Posted by: Alex_fs on May 13, 2005 01:13 PM

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Posted by: on May 13, 2005 01:28 PM

"Mao is in the hands of the people now, instead of the people being in the hands of Mao" -- ain't that special

Posted by: Master of None on May 13, 2005 01:31 PM

Apologies in advance:

Mao fries in Hades
Shortly FPL joins him;
Ow! that shit is hot.

Posted by: James on May 13, 2005 04:13 PM

UFF DA! As a Scandanavian Lutheran from Minnesota, I can oddly say that (a) I'm a Republican and (b) I think the ad campaign is rather clever. Maybe it's one of those "if you're not a friend to us [the library], you're a friend to them [the communist totalitarian idea-suppressing bastards]. Maybe. That's my best guess."

Also, I don't believe we ever learned anything about Mao in Minneapolis Public Schools. I didn't know who he was until I heard that Beatles song with the "if you go carryin pictures of chairman Mao....." So that could contriubte to our collective insanity here.

Posted by: Kelly on May 13, 2005 08:28 PM

You left out Chavez in your rogue's gallery. Hugo Chavez is bound to make himself a bigger name than Castro, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Khomeini, Bin Laden, and Kim combined. He's got the combination of oil wealth and proximity to the great satan that the other mass murderers could only envy. Not only that, but many leaders of EU countries would gladly and surreptitiously provide Chavez with all the technology he needs to go nuke.

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