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April 27, 2005
Shock: MSM Headlines Deliberately Distort Duelfer's "No Transfer to Syria" ClaimNo evidence of an official transer, he wrote. But... The group also said it had been unable to complete its investigation because of security concerns and couldn't rule out an "unofficial" transfer of material. Funny... I don't remember seeing anything about that in a headline, or even a sub-hed. At least not before a blogger bothered to read the report. Yeahp... bloggers are just a bunch of overcaffeinated, overopinionated morons who can't read official government reports like the geniuses making up our press corps. We're just too glib and too lacking in "nuance." Unlike the MSM, which takes great pains to get the stories "100% accurate" in all their particulars and never deliberately leaves out important qualifications in order to slant a story to their liking. Via Instapundit, who writes on a fifth-grade level. The Ace of Spades Blog You need to be This Tall to enter this blog. With Instapundit, anyone can get on, like that queerbait teacup ride for kids. Adding "Nuance": VonKreedon has difficulty discerning the main story/headine/bulletpoint from something buried in a story and not very loudly trumpted by the MSM, as usual. So I edited to note the headlines and sub-heds all seemed to omit this key fact. posted by Ace at 12:30 PM
CommentsAce - You are laughably grasping at straws that have fallen out of your strawmen. If, instead of linking to other chorus member blogs, you would read the MSM story itself you would read the following: In October, the group said that the 1991 Persian Gulf War likely destroyed Iraq's capabilities of producing weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq had none when the United States invaded. (Full story) After the October report, Vice President Dick Cheney and other U.S. officials said they believed Iraq possessed such material before the war and had moved it across the border into Syria, where the weapons may have been transferred to terrorists. Addenda to the group's final report -- released Monday on the U.S. Government Printing Office's Web site -- threw doubt on that scenario. "ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place," the report said. The group also said it had been unable to complete its investigation because of security concerns and couldn't rule out an "unofficial" transfer of material. So, the Iraq Survey Group that the administration put together to find the WMD that we were so sure were in Iraq that we waged preventative war came back and told the administration that the weapons DID NOT EXIST. Cheney rebuts that maybe the WMD did exist, but got transferred to say Syria before our invasion. Now the ISG comes back and says, with all due respect, that it is unlikely that Saddam's regime transferred WMD to Syria, but they can't rule out that some "unofficial" group transferred the WMD. Ah Ha! There you have it! The vaunted non-Saddamite Illuminati must have transferred the WMD to Syria right out from under the noses of Saddam's regime. Boy it must of just fried Saddam's but when he gave the order to fire the SCUD's at our troops and it turns out they were all disappeared! Haha. And then our MSM media has the unmitigated temerity to ignore this vital sub-text to the ISG's addenda. I expect you'll ratchet up the Ace MSM Outrage-o-Meter up to Shrieking Hysterically over this piece of liberal slander. Posted by: vonKreedon on April 27, 2005 01:22 PM
Whadda ya want from them? There are NO purchase orders for WMD's, no bills of lading, UPS and Fedex tracking doesn't even LIST a WMD category, and VISA and AMExpress won't let you charge one. Posted by: ed in texas on April 27, 2005 01:22 PM
I seem to be deficient in my HTM skills. The following should be the entire italicized quote from the CNN article: In October, the group said that the 1991 Persian Gulf War likely destroyed Iraq's capabilities of producing weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq had none when the United States invaded. (Full story) After the October report, Vice President Dick Cheney and other U.S. officials said they believed Iraq possessed such material before the war and had moved it across the border into Syria, where the weapons may have been transferred to terrorists. Addenda to the group's final report -- released Monday on the U.S. Government Printing Office's Web site -- threw doubt on that scenario. "ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place," the report said. The group also said it had been unable to complete its investigation because of security concerns and couldn't rule out an "unofficial" transfer of material. Posted by: vonKreedon on April 27, 2005 01:30 PM
Nope, it's not me. The commenting software appears to insert the close italic tag at the first paragraph break during the post action. Posted by: vonKreedon on April 27, 2005 01:31 PM
Dude - "Key fact"?!? What that they can't rule out that some group of people might have spirited the non-existent WMD out of Iraq, right out from under the Saddamite security apparatus? No, if you really want to follow this thread were it would lead, if the MSM weren't such pussies, is how it is yet another example of this administration strong arming intel to get results that can be used to justify their pre-conceived faith-based policies. In this case the ISG's report stated, "the 1991 Persian Gulf War likely destroyed Iraq's capabilities of producing weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq had none when the United States invaded." But then Cheney stated that, "believed Iraq possessed such material before the war and had moved it across the border into Syria, where the weapons may have been transferred to terrorists." So the ISG went back to examine that possibility, despite its conclusion that there was no capability to produce WMD since '91, despite its conclusion that there were no WMD at the time of the invasion, and despite UNSCOM's failure to find a single fucking WMD related thing at any of the sites that our intel was so certain would contain such material/weapons. So the ISG comes back and says that they can't find any evidence that Saddam's regime transferred any of the WMDs that they didn't have to Syria, but, to not make Cheney look like a fucking idiot, they can't rule out that there may have been some Illuminati like organization operating in Iraq that managed to evade the Saddamite security and "unofficially" transferred the non-existent WMDs to Syria and then of course on to terrorists who will use them at any moment if we but let our guard down by questioning our Dear Leader's faith based policies. There is no story here that you really want the MSM to grow stones and dig into. Posted by: vonKreedon on April 27, 2005 02:11 PM
From a Washington POst story I noted yesterday: "Although Syria helped Iraq evade U.N.-imposed sanctions by shipping military and other products across its borders, the investigators "found no senior policy, program, or intelligence officials who admitted any direct knowledge of such movement of WMD." Because of the insular nature of Saddam Hussein's government, however, the investigators were "unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials." In other words, the ISG couldn't find a direct government witness or document. Of course, we know that Hussein did everything officially and with plenty of witnesses who could testify to what all was happening. The one thing you could say about the Hussein regime is that they did their paperwork, right? I can imagine that the most important thing to Hussein while he was out there violating UN reolutions, playing chicken with CinC of the world's most advanced military force, and slaughtering a couple hundred thousand innocent civilians was making sure that he documented it all. Sure. Believe that. Posted by: Jimmie on April 27, 2005 02:27 PM
We've been in Iraq for 2 years. Interviewed all the scientists and all but a few Iraqis in military leadership post 1991. No WMDs. All the talk of secret convoys of WMDs to Syria came from Israeli channels outside the Mossad, and neocons within America. It was to encourage the US to attack Syria, and eliminate another of Israel's enemies at no cost to Israel.. Posted by: Cedarford on April 27, 2005 02:34 PM
Umm... does anybody other than Michael Moore give half a shit whether there were WMDs or not? I know I don't -- it's like "Oh, well Germany may be killing millions of its own citizens and threatening to invade its neighbors, but they don't actually have The Bomb, so we're going to go play a game of fucking badminton. Poland can go fuck themselves." I mean, WTF? WWII could have ended a lot faster, and at lower cost to human life on both sides, than it did, if we had stepped in earlier. But, we chose to sit on our hands until we (and our closest allies) felt threatened. I guess we should have just let the Iraqis work it out without our help -- they could have thrown together a revolution under the Republican Guard's noses, right? Give 'em a few molotov cocktails and let 'em fend for themselves? Sometimes, you do what's right because it's right -- you don't wait until it's your ass on the line. Posted by: on April 27, 2005 05:32 PM
good post, april. next time, make sure you don't mention the holocaust, it gives gobbelsford a hard-on for dem good 'ol days when he could kill "zee zionist pigs" at will. As far as this endless argument about whether or not Saddam possessed WMD's, I for one can honestly say I really DO NOT CARE. I have had liberal pansy after liberal pansy get on my case about " aren't you upset with the government for lying to you?" and other ridiculous shit of the like. And my response is always " find me proof that, at the time, Bush had knowledge that there were no WMD's and, knowingly decieved not only his own party, but the most liberal of them all, Kerry, Hillary and Kennedy, but the ENTIRE FUCKING NATION AND OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD. Wouldn't you know it, I NEVER get a response. Son of America OT, does anyone else find it disingineous that all these people that believe in this grand conspiracy are the same that believe Bush is the most ignorant president in our history? Hmmm.....maybe...ITS DEEEE DAMMMNNN JOOOSSS!!!.... fuck, hitler's ghost is mad....gobbelsford, you better post some nazi rhetoric and quick or... (reads another thread) never mind, you already did. Hitler's ghost thanks you. gobbelsford Posted by: Son of America on April 27, 2005 06:37 PM
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