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April 25, 2005

But Who Will Speak For the Man-Eating Cougars?

Great read at TCS:

... Monsters are loose, and some people know it, while others pretend not to.

It's a standard theme, from old tales to modern stories like Harry Potter and Buffy. The modern twist is that some people see it as moral to take the side of the people-eaters. One suspects that this isn't so much in spite of the people-eating, but because of it.

...

There's lots of interesting stuff in Baron's book about ecological change, and the folly of seeking "wilderness" without recognizing humanity's role in nature, but to me the most interesting behavior isn't the predatory nature of the cougars -- which are, after all, predators -- but the willful ignorance of human beings. So many were so invested in the notion that by thinking peaceful thoughts they could will into existence a state of peaceful affairs that they ignored the evidence right in front of them, which tended to suggest that cougars were quite happy to eat anything that was juicy, delicious, and unlikely to fight back.

Read the whole thing.

This idiocy is important in its own right, but I think Reynolds is talking not just about cougars here, but about other "monsters" that self-deluding lefties think they can "love" into peaceful coexistance.

An old piece which I still like quite a bit hits some of the same themes. Reynolds' piece is superior, but the amateur leftist webzine Slate took on the "Shark Apologists" a few years back, the sort of people who would, when a little boy's arm had been eaten off by a shark, piously instruct us that the boy was, after all, swimming in the shark's territory.

Call me crazy, but in disputes between human beings and animals, or human beings and space aliens, I sort of like the sort of people who take the side the human beings, and I'm not very happy with those who say crap like "Let the sharks continue in their magnificient murder spree! It's like a nature film come alive!" or "Let's not blow the brain-sucking aliens up; let's see if we can study them and figure out how to become freinds... before they suck out our brains, of course."

And, again, crazy Ace, but in disputes between my fellow Americans and the French or, worse yet, Islamofascists stroking themselves over murderotica porn videos, I'm not really too thrilled at those who leap to defend our adversaries or sworn enemies.

Sometimes true sophistication and enlightenment means taking your own fucking side for a fucking change.

Thanks to NickS for the TCS tip.

On Sharks and Islamofascists... AllahPundit tips to this great old Mark Steyn riff, connecting up all this years before I, or Instapundit for that matter, did:

On the Eastern Seaboard, the weeks leading up to Sept. 11, 2001, were the summer of shark attacks. Jessie Arbogast, an 8-year old lad from Pensacola, Fla., had his arm ripped off, but his quick-witted uncle wrestled the predator back to shore, killed him, and retrieved the chewed-up limb from his jaws. In a thoughtful editorial, the New York Times came down on the side of the shark: ''Many people now understand that an incident like the Arbogast attack is not the result of malevolence or a taste for human blood on the shark's part,'' explained the Times. ''What it should really do is remind us yet again how much we have to learn about them and their waters.''

In other words, we need to work harder to understand ''why they hate us.'' Just blundering into their waters in ever more culturally insensitive bathing suits will only provoke the vast majority of nonviolent members of the shark community to hate us even more.

Two years after ''the day America changed forever,'' the culture is in thrall to the same dopey self-delusion it held on Sept. 10, 2001: There are no enemies, just friends we haven't yet apologized to. The terrorist won't be a problem if, like young Jessie with the shark, we just give him a helping hand. Or, as the novelist Alice Walker proposed for Osama bin Laden, ''I firmly believe the only punishment that works is love.''

The good thing about movies is that the dopey scientist saying "Let's study them!" usually gets his head wrenched off by the end of Act II. Unfortunately, in real life, those propagating hatefully insipid ideas rarely are forced to confront the actual consequences of their antihuman ideology.

Let's just say that it would make a nice object lesson for Alice Walker to try punishing a wild-eyed Islamomaniac, with "love." Just before a squad of SEALs burst in, risking their lives to save her jackass life, demonstrating what real "love" is... and also, of course, what real punishment is too.

Of course, she could also try reading the Islamomaniac some of her insipid, Oprah-approved prose... that would, like the poetry of the Vogons, also constitute "real punishment," I think.

Sometimes Life Does Work Just Like the Marshall MacLuhan Scene in Annie Hall Update: I woudn't actually wish it on anybody, of course, but when "shark experts" get eaten by sharks and "bear experts" get mauled by bears... well, not only is it a human tragedy, but it sort of calls into question those "expert" credentials.

Primer on Expertise Regarding Bears and Sharks, Chapter One, Paragraph One, Sentence One: They're really, really fuckin' dangerous, diphshit.

Sentence Two: They're not called "wild" animals because they party like Spuds MacKenzie.

Sentence Three: We also call them "predators;" if you haven't seen the film Predator, you really should check it out, because it sort of lays out that whole "really really fuckin' dangerous" theme we were just so amiably chatting about.

Who Are the Real Villains Here? The Undead-Murder-Machine Zombies, or Us Human Beings? Update: In case you're not in the mood to try to have a "constructive dialogue" with a zombie or make it clear to them you "tolerate" their cannibalistic flesh-rending faith traditions, you might want to check out this important essay on suviving a zombie attack.

Every Time I Think I'm Out, The Cougars Keep Pulling Me Back In Update: Good Lord A' Mighty, this one post has set off a chain of links that I just can't seem to break.

Okay... one more. And then not another link about bears, sharks, cougars, poisonous snakes, venomous spiders, or socially-maladjusted Gila monsters, okay?

Upset Reidents Mourn Cougar Shot By Police:

Faced with a storm of protest from animal lovers over the "needless murdering" of a mountain lion shot by officers after it strayed into a Palo Alto neighborhood, police stood by their decision that an attempt to tranquilize the 99-pound cat could have endangered the community.

That's it! This is a political/D&D/porn/invective blog! It's not the g-damn Discovery Channel!


posted by Ace at 03:06 PM
Comments



Glenn definitely had a metaphor in mind. But for the ultimate terrorism-as-pest-control-problem analogy, see Mark Steyn.

Posted by: Allah on April 25, 2005 03:26 PM

You're preachin' to the choir, Ace. Amen and hallelujah!

Posted by: compos mentis on April 25, 2005 03:47 PM

Ok Ace, I'll buy the premise, but with one caveat. Those idiots that run the shark dives, where they wave bloody fish around and feed the sharks by hand? As between them and the sharks, I'll take the shark. Some people are just asking to be eaten.

Posted by: SteveL on April 25, 2005 03:48 PM

If you want zombie survival reading, check out the Zombie Survival Guide by Mel Brooks' son Max.

Posted by: on April 25, 2005 04:00 PM

"An old piece which I still like quite a bit hits some of the same themes. Reynolds' piece is superior, but the amateur leftist webzine Slate took on the "Shark Apologists" a few years back, the sort of people who would, when a little boy's arm had been eaten off by a shark, piously instruct us that the boy was, after all, swimming in the shark's territory."

The problem is not the apologists but the fisherman that were throwing fish parts and fish blood in the water 100 yards offshore where Jessie was swimming. Coupled with the poor visibility in the water and Jessie never had a chance. I don't blame the shark, I blame the fisherman.

"Ok Ace, I'll buy the premise, but with one caveat. Those idiots that run the shark dives, where they wave bloody fish around and feed the sharks by hand? As between them and the sharks, I'll take the shark. Some people are just asking to be eaten."

Steve, having been on several shark dives, you are playing into the fearmonger's hands. We don't wave bloody fish around to attract the sharks. The food is kept in containers or mounted on poles and the sharks are not interested in biting people that are fairly still and don't startle them. There is nothing like running your hand down the flank of a shark to teach you what some facts about the environment of the ocean.

So, why don't you come see what we do before you pronounce it bad? Or do you call skydivers crazy as well, or mountain climbers?

Posted by: Jim on April 25, 2005 04:00 PM

If you want zombie survival reading, check out the Zombie Survival Guide by Mel Brooks' son Max.

Posted by: nathan on April 25, 2005 04:00 PM

sorry, double post cause of preview.

Posted by: nathan on April 25, 2005 04:01 PM

Nathan,

You know him or somethin'?

Posted by: ace on April 25, 2005 04:03 PM

I don't want us to wipe predators out from the wild as we did in America in the 19th Century or as our ancestors did with a number of carnivores and herbivores in the great MegaFauna Extinctions of the Paleozoic Era.

Not much you can do about a few bathers or surfers getting chomped by sharks other than do mass killings of the sharks to reduce or destroy populations. I don't like that approach, nor do many others, so risks will remain.

Same with reintroductions of Golden eagles, wolverines, moose, wolfs, expansion of the coyote & cougar ranges. People are bound to be killed in the process - whether a tyke snatched up by a Golden eagle or a car hitting a moose. A small price to pay in restoring wildlife populations to healthy levels and balancing various public benefits.

Posted by: Cedarford on April 25, 2005 04:06 PM

"quick-witted uncle wrestled the predator back to shore, killed him, and retrieved the chewed-up limb from his jaws."



DAMN



Whoever this kid is, remind me never to piss off his uncle.



That headline should have read "Local man teaches shark a fucking lesson"

Posted by: Tom on April 25, 2005 04:07 PM

Cedarford, "a tyke snatched up by a Golden eagle"

Have you seen any stories of this?

I know they can take a lamb, but I've never heard of such with a kiddie.

Posted by: hobgoblin on April 25, 2005 04:27 PM

Down in South America, giant mosquitoes snatch up children and spirit them off.

It's a pathetic sight... these poor peasants waving their crudely-fashioned brooms as enormous mosquitoes carry off their children in their gigantic beaks.

Posted by: ace on April 25, 2005 04:51 PM

Kind of like the badass chimps that ripped the nuts and face off the California dude. Wife sobs, saying "The whole time he was trying to reason with them..."
Call in the SWAT monkeys...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on April 25, 2005 04:54 PM

Indeed. Or is it 'heh' or some such?

Can't remember.

Great post, Ace.

Posted by: Birkel on April 25, 2005 04:58 PM

What's becoming of the human race? Are we devolving? If we don't give them a smoke they bite our balls off. Yet for some reason we want to give them a gun and a badge.

They are clever devils, aren't they?

Posted by: BrewFan on April 25, 2005 05:02 PM

Of course it was. That's what I do here. Just one brilliant post after a-fuckin'-nother.

Posted by: ace on April 25, 2005 05:02 PM

Yes, we leftist sure do LOVE terrorists. Why just look at all the specific instances where the left praised and forgave the 9-11 hijackers. Uh, good luck finding those instances however.. THis is just more self dillusional crap that the right makes up and keeps repeating as if that is going to make it true.

Fuck the terrorist, but give the rockies back to the lynx, cougars, bears and wolves.

Posted by: frank on April 25, 2005 05:04 PM

Crikey, Mate!

All these stories about bloomin' cougars and sharks and the like and ya can't find one decent post about a Croc mauling some poor bugger?

It's enough to make me question my existence. Luckily, the Fosters keeps me grounded. Well that, and my little dog Suey.

Posted by: Jack "Croc. Hunter" M. on April 25, 2005 05:11 PM

Every time I read about how some dimwit got himself mauled by a bear, or a moose, or a badger, or raging bands of chimpanzees, I think to myself: That's nature showing you who's really running the show here, pal.

Animal-lover Lefties crack me up. I'm an animal lover myself, but I have equal respect for all the representatives of the animal kingdom (including our humble selves). But it's funny how Lefties are all for saving the poor baby harp seals or the tigers, but you never hear them bemoaning the murder of millions of cockroaches every year, or of rats, or of wasps, or of any number of other non-cuddly animals who still have just as much right to live as the rest of us.

But respect for animals doesn't mean you take shit from them. I get a wasp in the house, and I declare war on that bastard. I get him or he gets me; there is no quarter asked or given.

Posted by: Monty on April 25, 2005 05:13 PM

The dingos got my baby.

Posted by: on April 25, 2005 05:31 PM

Monty = Modern Day Davy Crockett

Posted by: lauraw on April 25, 2005 05:40 PM

Well Frank,

How about Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.,?
or Michael Moore calling them "minutemen"?
or Ohio Rep. Marcy Kaptur’s comments equating Osama bin Laden’s mass murderers to patriots of the American Revolution?
Brendan O’Leary a political science professor and Clark McCauley an adjunct professor of psychology at UPenn explaining that terrorists were really 'militants' prone to 'political violence'
or Ward Churchill
or ......f*ck, I could go on forever

Posted by: mtnbiker on April 25, 2005 05:45 PM

The most famous example of this, as I recall, is the fact that a fund set up for some orphaned cougar cubs(?) in California raised more money than for the family of the woman the mama cougar killed.

Could have killed two birds with one stone by auctioning off the mother cougar's remains & the cubs to some Asian apothecary for soup or aphrodesiacs and donate the money to the family.

Posted by: Alex_fs on April 25, 2005 06:29 PM

And just who killed off all the Mega-fuana you ask?
That's right boys and girls, those guardians of the ecosystem, Native American Indians.
Because according to them, no white guy set foot on North America before 1492.
So the lesson is that its OK to kill off the cool animals like the saber tooth tiger, as long as you "protect" the dork animals like the spotted owl.

Posted by: Iblis on April 25, 2005 07:07 PM

Mmm.... cougar steak. And my kitty would appreciate a nice present of a cougar-skin rug. "Heh, I may be declawed and de-sexed, and I may be subject to humiliating maneuvers from my human like being picked up, held on my back, and having my stomach rubbed, but at least I'm alive and Mr. He-Man Wild Predator is my hairball barfing pad!"

Speaking of the punishments of love... I think that being loved by Alice Walker would be punshment, for sure.

Posted by: Andrea Harris on April 25, 2005 07:39 PM

It seems to me that this sort of attitude owes something to Christianity's "love your enemies" and Gandhi. From Orwell's Reflections on Gandhi:

"What about the Jews? Are you prepared to see them exterminated? If not, how do you propose to save them without resorting to war?" I must say that I have never heard, from any Western pacifist, an honest answer to this question, though I have heard plenty of evasions, usually of the "you're another" type. But it so happens that Gandhi was asked a somewhat similar question in 1938 and that his answer is on record in Mr. Louis Fischer's Gandhi and Stalin. According to Mr. Fischer, Gandhi's view was that the German Jews ought to commit collective suicide, which "would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence." After the war he justified himself: the Jews had been killed anyway, and might as well have died significantly.

Posted by: Jim C. on April 25, 2005 08:22 PM

I four-wheel and hike in bear and lion country all the time. With my dog Sally.
I don't expect any attack from predators.
I do carry a gun, though.
I am am the "standard" mentally highly evolved and physically degraded "Safeway supermarket" predator specimen who needs "help" against REAL predator aggression.

Posted by: Dan Pursel on April 25, 2005 10:07 PM

Hobgoblin -

No killing of a tyke by a golden eagle yet, but they have nabbed lambs, little pooches, so if their numbers return to healthy levels, it's just a matter of time.

But a reasonable price to pay. A very rare event for one of America's 280 million people to be killed by a predator. People WANT wild animals to exist in nature, not just in zoos, and that includes apex predators.

Posted by: Cedarford on April 25, 2005 10:52 PM

Addendum on Jessie Arbogast

He is alive and off a feeding tube, so he has some cortical activity, but is severely brain damaged. When the shark took off his arm, he bled out and had no working blood pressure, hence to oxygen going to the brain for several minutes. So much of his brain died. His family swears he speaks "words" - but not sentences.

Shame the rescue and his survival didn't pan out as well as many had hoped.

http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/jessie.shtml

Posted by: Cedarford on April 25, 2005 11:01 PM

mtnbiker,
I would be curious to see your examples. What you sited was bullshit. I stated prove the left loves terrorists and you give me a quote by MM saying the Iraqi's trying to remove the US from iraq are minutemen. Your statement is the equivalent of saying the Vietcong were terrorists. By your definition, and granted by the bush administration's definition, anyone who opposes US hegemony is a terrorist. Fuck, why do I bother with you fucking morons?

Posted by: frank on April 26, 2005 03:53 PM
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