"If she doesn't look cute on TV she might as well be dead, right?"

I believe this line of judicial reasoning is known as the "Kirstie Alley/Delta Burke Theory of Statutory Interpretation".

Whatever happens (and it seems fairly clear what the outcome will be at this point), thank you for staying on top of this story, Ace.

Unfortunately, Ace, you're on target in your assessment.

The fact is, however, that so few people find the beauty in her eyes and her smile and that is what's killing her. And anyone who says they can't see that smile is f**king lying.

The ugliness lies with them, not her.

apotheosis,

I haven't stayed on the story much; my email box gets filled with Terri tips that I don't bother with.

I just think it's clear she's going to die, and nothing much said here, or on talk radio, and certainly not in the courts, is going to change that.

It's just depressing and futile.

Where are you getting this "not cute enough to live" stuff.

Did you find her repulsive? I didn't at all. I thought she was a very lovely girl pre-accident, and if anything pictures of her in her present state tended to evoke a protective response in people.

I have a bad taste in my mouth after reading the opinion. Birch could only wait till the third paragraph before making it clear that he's highly offended by the "epithet" of "acivist judges" being directed at the judiciary.

I second what SarahW said.

This whole "not cute" thing smacks of Willisian logic. The divide lies in how many people have the view that she is brain dead vs. those that don't. So while "Save Terri!" folks view this as an issue of "a mentally handicapped person is being put to death by the state," those on the other side of divide have the impression that "Terry Schiavo isn't home in an otherwise autonomically functioning body." And the two sides yell at each other with rhetoric rooted in the fundamental assumptions colored by predispositive worldview and their given information source on this complex case.

PS - That's right Ace, I said "Willisian" logic. Punk.

I'm so sick of hearing that Terri is brain dead and she would have wanted to be put to death. I have one question for those who follow this train of thought. I hear all this stuff that Terri is unable to swallow on her own. That if she were to eat she would aspirate. So, why not let her eat via her mouth and if she inhales particles into her lungs that ultimately kill her, no harm no foul. Right? I mean, you want her to die anyway, right? I think the faster way and more euphoric way would be the whole Jimi Hendrix exit. I think that would be more humane than starving the woman to death. But the fact of the matter is that they just want her to die. If there's a possibility she survives with nutriousment through the mouth, then the husband, doctors, and activitsts would look like the idiots that they are!

Yeah, right. Terri Schiavo got pulled off the feeding tube because the courts figured "Eh, what the hell. No one cares about her anyway. We can kill her with impunity."

That's how the courts make their decisions: the cute factor.

What do you mean she's not cute? To me, she looks like a million bucks.

SarahW:
"pictures of her in her present state tended to evoke a protective response in people."

My wife and I totally agree. Sadly, there were not enough of us.

Bill,

"predispositive worldview" - did you make that up?

If we can get this "ugly on TV=death" law passed can I be one the that gets the honor of throwing the switch on Alan Colmes? That man is horror movie ugly and shows fewer signs on brain activity than Terri Schiavo.

they're really beyond the pale now...dirtbags...

the judges only jerked the family's chain to gloat triumphally and sadistically that they WILL kill Terri...
they just needed 15 more minutes of fame to ''chastise'' Bush and Congress for interfering in their ''judicial process''
and PS: NO! they won't reveal their secret recipe for Soylent Green

Maybe what Ace is saying is that Terri wasn't a pretty enough poster-child. See also 'Rosa Parks'

Parks wasn't the only such person arrested. The Supreme Court's 1954 ruling on school integration that "separate . . . [is] inherently unequal" reversed the 1896 segregation law. Lawyers were hoping for a test case that would desegregate buses. Before her, there was an unwed pregnant teenager, then the daughter of a drunk.

Judge says oops after two people killed. Says he might have done things differently in retrospect. Declined to comment further because he had an early tee time.

..............the time has come for dispassionate discharge of duty.

Remember these final words, folks. These things have a way of coming back to haunt us all.

Both sides all issues...................

I'll be quoting them often I suspect.

Good point SondraK. Reminds me of the trial judge when he wrote that at some point we had to have 'finality' in the case. As if finality were more important than accuracy.

Sorry to clog up your docket with my tired-ass life-or-death lawsuit, judge.

And that judge was a Florida judge too!
What's with the court system down there?

Each day it becomes more gruesome. The left has even shutup on TV.

On the one hand you want it to be over for Terri and her family. But it seems she is determined to "let her wishes be known."

2 weeks. Wow. It's amazing really.

If Terri's really not in any pain, I hope she lasts 20-30 days just to spite 'em. Vampires.

Iblis, if you're referring to the judge who refused the injunction in the Florida killings (story linked above), the nonchalance in his comments is also staggering, essentially, "Yeah, too bad that 5-year old girl's parents were murdered in her presence, but the important thing is that I followed my process." The attitude kind of rings a bell, doesn't it? [which is why I referenced it in the first place]

Here's the evil i see w/ all this litigative undue process.
imho, the trial court erred right off the bat in allowing an unfit ''guardian'' to use inadmissible HEARSAY evidence to OFF his ex-wife.

The Act by Congress and Bush seemingly was designed to stop the circlejerk rubberstamp process judges love to give each other by allowing de novo review of the facts, as in Capital Punishment cases, at the Fed level under Fed Rules of Evidence.
[they should have gone further and used 'beyond a reasonable doubt' as the st. of evidence, imo]

The Court was supposed to toss out the concretized layers of inadmissible hearsay, judicial bias, spousal abuse, campaign contributions,
AND the euthanasia agenda of Felos, and the self proclaimed Dr Death.

these judges know goddamn well about forum shopping and legal manipulations by well-financed extremists.
they know the history of this case:
that Felos has spent years buying judges, getting laws changed, and getting Terri locked up in a dark isolated warehouse, which he and his cronies control.
He and Dr Death have spent years carefully picking their victims--like Nancy Cruzan--helpless people under the control of weak, amoral, foolish, 'useful idiot' family members like Mr Cruzan and Mr Schiavo.
They misused the Cruzan victory as precedent for Sciavo.
They misused oil and gas pricing laws [of all things] as the analysis for establishing that Terri would not suffer irreparable harm w/o her feeding tube.
According to Code Blue Blog, and other doctors, they've misused tests, or failed to perform tests, that would reveal Terri's true prognosis.

They looked--but refused to see--the Law and the Fundamental rights at issue.
They ignored Justice Temperance and Mercy for political gain.

They saw only their own Power and KKKontrol.

This snarky ''all your lives are belong to us'' final ruling by CA 11 just enforces my opinion that they want to kill Terri **Because They Can**

"All your lives are belong to us." -- the judicial branch.

It's a tragic take on the old Lily Tomlin AT&T telephone operator, "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company."

Tremendous power and no meaningful accountability... AT&T was ultimately denied its monopoly status, but the courts have a monopoly born of the Constitution and over 200 years of tradition. I'm not optimistic.

But who gives a fig about their "reasoning."

Ah, an honest appraisal of the position of reasoning in this discussion.

For your reading pleasure, the Oct 2003 Larry King interview with M Schiavo which discussing the near fistfight when R Schindler demanded part of the lawsuit money be given him, not in Terri's trust, but as he and his wife's due for loss of companionship - which M Schiavo said initiated the split and 12 years of Schindler lawsuits against him.

http:// www.libertytothecaptives....w_oct_2003.html

Also, M Schiavo claims Bobby Schindler is a methodical liar about T Schiavo's cognitive awareness and that before the media attention, Bobby Schindler only visited his sister 3-4 times over the span of 10 years.

In another interview, he said in the past - several weeks or months could pass without a visit by either of the Schindler parents. He knew, because he has been with his wife nearly every day for the last 15 years,

I know, I know ...... call him a liar.

The autopsy will soon settle who has been lying all this time and putting the country through moral hoops....Michael or Bobby & Co.

The solution? Make it easier to recall and impeach judges.

Just do it.

I must agree with Ace.

If she looked like some super-babe taking a little nap,
the starve-her crowd would be much... uhh... thinner.

Sad fact of the modern world.

"Terri" - the reason the Court will not let the Schindlers or some deranged religious follower armed with a half gallon jug of holy water and a blessed snickers bar in to "save Terri" is that since she has little brain matter left, she would quickly choke to death, in all her treating doctor's medical opinion.

You say no harm, but in the law's eyes, that would not be allowing her to die naturally but an deed of commission, actively killing her living body. No different than a euthenasia shot or putting a pillow over her face. Which would make your proposal also abhorent to all the Right to Lifers...

Cedarford,

Is it possible for you to TRY to be less of an asshole all the time?

Please. Try.

I read the USA Today article which covered both sides of the story regarding the argument over money which led to the split between the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo. The Schindlers said that Michael became angry and said they would never see their daughter again. It was not long after that incident (and the delivery of the money from the malpractice settlement) that Michael first "remembered" that Terri would "not have wanted to live that way." Fortunately for Michael, "that way" in Florida includes feeding and hydration, not just artificial respirators. He is about to make good on his threat. Of course, this is much to the dismay of prominent right-to-lifers like Jesse Jackson, Ralph Nader, and Lanny Davis.

ace,
asking cedarford not to be an asshole is like asking shit not to stink. it's not only impossible, the mere request is asking him to betray his nature. unless of course, he were dipped in mucilage and then rolled in kitty litter.

> The autopsy will soon settle who has been lying all this time

Sure it will. "The Coroner's office concludes that Terri Schiavo's corpse is brain-dead." That'll be one hell of a vindication.

To be fair to the other judge:

A guy who sets out to murder 2 people and then turns the gun on himself might not have been all that impressed with a restraining order. (I have heard that a man who commits murder might even degenerate to playing cards on the sabbath, too.) All the judge could have done to prevent the murders would be to have denied bail and locked the SOB up - which ain't gonna happen without a whole lot of evidence apparently nobody had.

The couple feared for their lives but how did they protect themselves? At the end of the day, your best protection is still you.

Unless you end up seriously impaired and there's money in your death for the spouse you were about to divorce. Then you're just plain screwed.

I just wanted to inform this board that your traitorous comments about our beloved country and it's constitution have been dutifully reported to the authorities.

TruePatriot,

at least be a little creative and be MrWhipple@TP.com

I hope all these judges, Michael Schiavo and George Felos all rot in hell.

Michael is such a great guy. Just read what he says and see how stainless and saintly he is:

During the malpractice trial when Michael stood to win over one million dollars (Nov 1992):

Q. Where do you want to take care of your wife?
MS. I want to bring her home.

Q. If you had the resources available to you, if you had the equipment and the people, would you do that?
MS. Yes, I would, in a heartbeat.

Q. How do you feel about being married to Terri now.
MS. I feel wonderful. She's my life and I wouldn't trade her for the world. I believe in my marriage vows.

Q. You believe in your wedding vows, what do you mean by that?
MS. I believe in the vows I took with my wife, through sickness, in health, for richer or poor. I married my wife because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'm going to do that.

During a hearing on Terri's guardianship (one year later, Nov 1993):

Q. What was her bladder condition?
MS. She had a UTI.

Q. What is that?
MS. Urinary tract infection.

Q. What did the doctor tell you treatment for that would be?
MS. Antibiotic usually.

Q. And did he tell you what would occur if you failed to treat that infection? What did he tell you?
MS. That sometimes urinary tract infection will turn to sepsis.

Q. And sepsis is what?
MS. An infection throughout the body.

Q. And what would the result of untreated sepsis be to the patient?
MS. The patient would pass on.

Q. So when you made the decision not to treat Terri's bladder infection you, in effect, were making a decision to allow her to pass on?
MS. I was making a decision on what Terri would want.

Q. Had the bladder condition been treated?
MS. Yes.

Q. And was...what was the reason that the bladder condition was treated?
MS. Sable Palms Nursing Home said they could not do that by some Florida law which wasn't stated.

Q. But you didn't change your opinion or your decision to not treat the bladder condition?
MS. We did change it.

Q. Correct?
MS. Repeat the question.

Q. You did not change your decision not to treat the bladder condition, correct?
MS. I had to change my decision.

Q. Sable Palms changed it for you?
[Attorney Nillson Objection]

Q. Okay. Is there any reason that you would not make the same decision that you previously made if the problem came up again?
MS. Repeat your question. You're losing me here.

Q. Let me be more specific. If your wife developed another condition that could result in her death, is there any reason that you would not take the position that you're not going to treat that condition and you're going to instruct the doctor not to treat that condition?
MS. I wouldn't instruct anybody, no.

Q. You instructed the doctor not to treat the condition, correct?
[Attorney Nillson Objection]

Q. You did instruct the doctor not to treat her bladder condition, correct?
MS. Uh-huh. Yes.

Q. If a similar...would you do the same?
MS. I'm thinking.

Q. Take your time.
MS. I probably wouldn't instruct the doctor to do it.

Q. So you've changed your opinion?
MS. Sort of, yeah.

Q. Why have you changed your opinion?
MS. Because evidently there is a law out there that says I can't do it.

Q. Is that the only reason?
MS. Basically, maybe.

Q. What you're telling me is, is that there is nothing in your belief or feelings that have changed. The only thing that has changed is the fact that you perceive the law prevents you to do what you intended to do?
MS. Correct.

Q. What did you do with your wife's jewelry?
MS. My wife's jewelry?

Q. Yeah.
MS. Um, I think I took her engagement ring and her...what do they call it...diamond wedding band and made a ring for myself.

Q. What did you do with her cats?
MS. Her cats were put to sleep n the advice of my mother-in-law.

(Note: The veterinarian who performed the euthanasia of Terri's pets came forward to say there was never any suggestion from Terri's mother that this be done and only Mr. Schiavo's insistence.)

[...]

Q. Alright. After the altercation on February 14, 1993 [The big money brouhaha - Sue], the Schindlers were not allowed any information concerning their daughter's immediate condition, is that correct?
MS. The order was given not to give out any information to anybody but myself or the doctor.

Q. Okay. And what was...why was that order given?
MS. Because I figured that the nursing home was having problems, first off, with the certified nurses aids giving wrong information out over the phone, information to the family. And second of all, since my in-laws showed no care about showing up or calling me when Terri was in the hospital, I figured they didn't care.

Fax sent from Bob Schindler to Michael Schiavo on July 16, 1993 proving Michael to be full of shit.

No wonder you empathize so much with Michael, Seedy. You guys are like peas in a pod.

Other great material here. Some of it's questionably edited, but still has some marvelous info that very few people have read.

Excuse me ACE, but WTF in either of those posts I made is less than 100% factual???

1. You have extreme Catholic priests blessing water, communion wafers, candy - and handing it off to children and other volunteers to try and get to Terri. 47 have been arrested as of yesterday.

2. The link and the info from the Larry King interview is what happened to be what M Schiavo said. He alleges both the Schindler parents and particular Bobby Schindler have been infrequent visitors.

3. The doctors have said that if police hadn't stopped the religious volunteers on their "holy water and sustenance for Terri" missions and they actually had poured the holy water or the food down her throat she would have choked to death.

4. It should be quite clear to you that one side or the other has been lying out it's teeth. It should also be clear to you that the autopsy and examination of her brain will remove all doubts of who has been lying. It will be the final piece of evidence that will join all the other evidence the Courts weighed. The autopsy will discern if it was medically possible or impossible for T Schiavo to be cognitive and regularly speaking words.

5. On the lying, we have either M Schiavo/the Courts/the bulk of the medical community in a conspiracy. Or, we have the Schindler family, the Right to Life doctors, nurses, and lawyers who have seen her - and sorry, despite your saying this isn't about religion, it drips religion involved in a conspiracy of lies. And this isn't a minor thing. We have besides T Schiavo's fate - death threats on judges, bomb threats, and other ongoing crimes of slander, defamation of character, millions in taxpayer costs for due process & police protection of threatened parties, the question of doctors and lawyers engaging in perjury and unprofessional conduct..................Future consequences???

All predicated on who is lying, and who is telling the truth.

*******************

I honestly don't know what your beef with the truth is, ACE. I laid out the troubling facts and charges, serious issues, and did so in a honest manner. If that makes my point of view "the asshole side" of the Terri Schiavo debate - then enjoy your time with the Right to Lifers.

I think you can glean who I think the liars are.
I think you can glean who the threats have come from.
I think you can glean where the evidence is headed.

Excuse me ACE, but WTF in either of those posts I made is less than 100% factual???

Jackass, a woman is dying, which you may not seem to give a shit about, but you cannot be so fucking dense as to not notice that almost everyone else here does care about it.

You can make your points without mocking religion and the death of an innocent woman.

It's called "tact." Fucking look it up.

Look, Cedarford, you didn't address Sue's post. Is it at all possible that there's a huge muddle of fact and fiction on BOTH sides? What Schiavo is saying now doesn't quite jibe with what he was saying in 1993 and thereafter. Maybe he believes what he's saying now, maybe he doesn't; you can persuade yourself of anything over time. Furthermore, you're still waving the red herrings around; personally, I think she's beyond rehabilitation at this point, but *that doesn't make her starvation any better*. She's brain-damaged, not dying. (Wasn't dying before, I should say).

And if not wanting the badly brain-damaged to be starved "drips religion" - well, count me in with the religion-drippers. I bet they'd be surprised. Why on earth does it matter so much to you that some of her support is religiously-based? Are you a vampire, flinching at the sight of a crucifix? Sure, some of her supporters are assholes - and may I point out, a lot of her husband's supporters are also being assholes. The relative assholery of the two sides DOES NOT MEAN SHIT when it comes to her right not to die a death that carries shades of Dr. Mengele.

On the issue of the autopsy:

This

From Jerri Ward, a practicing attorney and blogger.

I'm new here, honest. I have a serious question, honest. Can Cedarford possibly be real or is Ace pulling a Phil Hendrie on us?

Who was Phil Hendrie again?

Jeff B: Impossible to properly describe Phil Hendrie. He's been on the radio for years. It's kind of like talk radio except Phil does all the voices (male and female) in such a seamless fashion, most can't tell it's not real guests or callers. His standard stock of characters are, to say the least, bizarre. Most everything off-color, edgy. If you like Ace, you'll like Hendrie...or I'll refund your money. Here's his website:

http://www.philhendrieshow.com/

Cedarford's anti-religious sentiments offer evidence only as to his biases, not as to the facts of the case.
the case against Terri's life is built upon the same sludge as Cedarford's post..., personal prejudices, the secularist religion, and its political agendae.

the court case remains nothing more than inadmissible, insufficient, dubious evidence.
without legally sufficient evidence, the whole case falls.
the appeals are rubberstamp folly from arrogant jurists whose own religious belief is that they are infallible.
no one should die for insufficient evidence.
no one should die b/c judges can't be bothered...or b/c they believe in their own powers to pronounce life and death.

this case is a travesty of justice.
bigoted bluster does not change this.

Wrong ACE, the time for tact was back before the Schindlers and Randall Terry turned what should have been a private family matter into a media spectacle and egged on religious extremists with their lies. When they plastered misleading video of their PVS daughter all over despite the husband and court's wishes for her medical privacy and started a massive sliming campaign.

Since the Schindlers have "lost their tact" and started throwing out all sorts of BS - loose shit in your terms - we are now reading about murder contracts put out on M Schiavo and Greer by members of the Religious Right, of bomb threats to the Hospice, death threats on Jeb Bush, members of the appeals courts, the Pinellas PD officers, Schiavos lawyer, Dennis Hastert. Bodyguards have been assigned to several parties.

Reports are of the FBI tracking down a few dozen death or bomb threats they consider serious. The Sheriffs have now set up a cordon a few blocks wide around the Hospice to check cars for weapons and explosives. A report of one demonstrator arrested with a handgun last Monday came out.

Threats directed against the "sancity of life" crowd by others? Zero, to my knowledge.

And you talk about fucking "tact".

As for the autopsy, it has emerged into a public conversation in the past 2 days and gotten into the media as the media finally examines "who has been lying??" Fox had pathologists on both O'Reilly and Hannity & Colmes tonight explaining what the autopsy would resolve.

Because they anticipate major consequences for the parties that have been lying. Especially if the Religious Right fringe kills or injures someone.

You want a jackass? You may wish to start with the people making the threats or worse.

Cedarford,

Welcome to my bar. Here's a nice tall cool glass of Shut the Fuck Up and Get Out of My Fuckin' Face.

You want lemon with that, sugar?

Ace, I think it's time to pull the IP feeding tube on Cedarford. He seems to exist solely for the nutrition of your comments section. Unlike Terri Schiavo, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and cyberstarving him would indeed be a boon to the world.

the carry on of death threats is all too predictable.
in any case like this, the nuts come out to take advantage of the confusion and press attention.
the news has been full in recent years of death threat tales that turn out to be manufactured by the ''victims''
what's next--Terri supporters accused of blowing up the TX refinery?

Felos and MS are notorious manipulators of the truth, as is the press.
they've been working overtime for sympathy.
this is just one over-used tactic to cover up for the REAL death threat....the one issued by MS and carried out by the corrupt elements of our legal system

I can't. He gets together with me and my girlfriend Betsy for some hot three-ways.

I just wanna go crazy on him.

I don't know why I'm behaving this way.

Sonnetka - asks if it is possible both sides are lying to the public.

Yes.

But not all parties on both sides - just key parties.

It is also possible that hallucination and psychosis factors in, and things have been said that in certain people's minds are not deliberate lies.

But the odds now favor one side being truthful or mostly truthful and the other side, given the disparity of presented "facts" - lying, hallucinating, or being psychotic.

We do know that the Schindler parents and some of their witnesses have been found to have been lying by the Court, but not M Schiavo. Carla Iyer, in particular, lied so spectacularly that the Court contemplated prosecuting her for perjury.

I imagine some investigative journalists & authors will be looking to see if M Schiavo lied about key moments - like the Schindler father demanding lawsuit money for his loss of companionship from Michael being the cause of the split.

We do know that while some of the parties may indeed be hallucinating or psychotic - it is impossible to not conclude that there have been grave lies committed by some parties that have put lives at risk. Depending on where the truth lays - Terri Schiavo improperly let die by lies - or the parties that were involved in the decision to let her die endangered by the lies of "Save Terri" supporters.

We understand strong motive to lie exists. At one point for lots of money. To damage the other side. To even lie, kill do anything, anything to save the life of the Lamb of God. To lie to get the freedom to move on.

And the autopsy will help find who has been truthful.

So he is for real? OK.

>TruePatriot, at least be a little creative and be MrWhipple@TP.com

They will be calling you Mr. Whipple in prison where all traitors and haters of America, and it's constitution, a document dictated by God, recieve the justice they richly deserve.

So the autopsy will help determine whether twenty years ago she actually did tell her husband and in-laws that she'd like to be dehydrated in the event of her becoming permanently incapacitated? The miracle of science.

Frankly, I'm mostly with Cederford.

I don't see anyone protesting the many other cases of feeding tube removal that go on daily, and in those cases there are probably plenty of spouses who are after the cash, not to mention cases where the parents are at odds with the spouse.

Sue, everyday people make vows to spend the rest of their lives together (in marriage), and many of them end up in divorce. Do you assume that they are also lying? Those statements were made 12 years ago, if I were him, I don't doubt that I would say enough at some point down the line. The rumours and BS have cast Michael Schiavo as a villian, which is being bought by many.

As for putting the cats down, I've never taken a pet to be put down but I doubt the vets usually ask questions about who's idea it was, but hey, if we can brand Michael Schiavo a cat-killer to boot, why not raise the issue. As for the ring issue, if his wife had died instantly and he had done that, no doubt it would be regarded as a romantic gesture to always keep his wife with him.

Terri had 3 years of treatment after the initial incident. She can't have an MRI done because she has metal in her head, it is questionable whether it can be removed without damaging the brain. In addition, two schindler appointed physicians examined Terri in 2002. If they had thought an MRI applicable, they could have requested one.

Regarding the treating of the UTI , Jay Wolfsons report claims :

'Michael's decision not to treat was based on discussions and consultation with Theresa's doctor, and was predicated on his reasoned believe that there was no longer any hope for Theresa's recovery"

Jay Wolfson is one of the GAL's that found no problem with Michaels caring for Terri, as evidenced by the fact that she hadn't received a bed sore in that time.

While I am more than open to a review based on some mistakes in the case, or new evidence, over the past few years, due process has been completed, and in light of the evidence, the court has ruled that it was Terri's wish to die, and they are carrying out that wish. If any of you have any information which contradicts those basic elements, I am sure the schindlers would love to hear from you.

While starvation may seem a cruel way to go, I am sure the hospice has thorough pain management implemented, and I look forward to the Republican backed bill on Euthansia so we can end peoples lives with compassion.

I'm with cedarford. No price is too high if it spells defeat for Jesus-freaks and Right wingnuts.

Starve the bitch already! After all, pro-lifers are on the other side and they are bad people. Not compassionate like us liberals.

I wouldn't know good medicine if it landed on my
leech-scarred ass, but I can tell you this much;
an autopsy won't tell you diddly.

Them hi-falootin doctors (and hi-falootin anybody
for that matter) WISH they knew half as much
as they let on they do.

Log Cabin,

You're cool. Let me know your URL. I'm sorta thin on gay bloggers in my blogroll.

Unless you count Allah.

Well, he's not really gay. He's just a pussy that lets you have his way with him for a pack of cigarettes.

Dear Brewfan -

Bill,

"predispositive worldview" - did you make that up?

Well that depends. If you only consider adjectives and noun combinations that you've read 2000x in print "real," then yes, I may have made it up. Some times I'm crazy like that, combining fancy words into accurately descriptive phrases. I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable. Perhaps this will help:

"stacked like cordwood"

"hard as a rock"

"loose shit"

I'm sorry if my use of the English language strays into challenging areas.

Regards,

Bill from INDC

The best thing I have read on the whole subject was by Thomas Sowell. He ties the whole thing to abortion and court supremacy.And, of course, he makes perfect sense.

Bill, why don't you just educate me? Tell me what it means. Here's what I get when I google it:

define: predispositive (No definitions were found for predispositive)

Here's what I get when I look it up at Dictionary.com - No entry was found in the dictionary

Here's what I get when I try wikipedia - No page with that title exists

Now, interestingly enough, when I look up 'asshole' in the dictionary your picture is next to it!!

BrewFan,

Well said!

well, she's gone.

ACE, TELL THAT NEEDLE DICK, LOG CABIN, HOPE HE
CHOKES ON DINNER TONITE

It is being reported that her parent's were denied access during her final hours. What are we becoming?

I am hearing the same thing Coot. It is so rotten.
Why? Why would he refuse their request to be with her when she died? Regardless of anything else, that is their child.
I don't understand this.

Ace, I am truly flattered by the offer, but I don't blog. I just don't think I could churn out original stuff on a regular basis. Thank you for the complement.

bt? IT WAS A JOKE! However, it shows just how extreme that the left has become when you can't even do parodies of them.

God Bless you, Terri. Rest in Peace.

Mae Magouirk safe for now. See Tekgnosis for further details.

Tell the Media to report the REAL Schiavo polls!

http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7351686&type=ME

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/4/emw226586.htm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/prweb/20050408/bs_prweb/prweb226586_3

My account, etc. of Terri Schindler's Funeral Mass:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2005/04/terris_funeral_.html

Main page:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com