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February 24, 2005

Churchill Caught Teaching Terrorism-- On Tape

No chance of a retraction this time, as they've got the tapes and Michelle Malkin is providing the transcripts:

Question from audience: You mentioned a little bit ago, ‘Why did it take a bunch of Arabs to do what you all should have done a long time ago,’ that’s my question.
And as a white man standing here in your midst from a fairly liberal/conservative/middle of the road background—and I tell people I’m so far left I’m coming up on the rigt—and I’d like you to respond to, why shouldn’t we do something and how could we move so they don’t see us coming?

Churchill: I’m gonna repeat that, tell me if I got that right: Why shouldn’t we do something and how do you you move so they don’t see you coming.

As to the first part, not a reason in the world that I could see. I can’t find a single reason that you shouldn’t in a principled way—there may be some practical considerations, such as do you know how (laughter from audience)—you know, often these things are processes.

"Laughter from audience." Hee, hee. It's fun to discuss committing acts of terrorism against the US.

It’s not just an impulse. And certainly it’s not just an event. And the simple answer, although it probably should be more complicated, but I’m not being flip and giving the simple answer, is: You carry the weapon. That’s how they don’t see it coming.
You’re the one…They talk about ‘color blind or blind to your color.’ You said it yourself.

You don’t send the Black Liberation Army into Wall Street to conduct an action.
You don’t send the American Indian Movement into downtown Seattle to conduct an action. Who do you send? You. Your beard shaved, your hair cut close, and wearing a banker’s suit.

There’s probably a whole lot more to it, you know that. But there’s where you start.

He continues with this line of suggestion in Part II:

If you are Arab, for example, you are automatically profiled as a potential terrorist. Period. And you can be asked to leave a plane because some Nordic-looking woman two rows down tells the stewardess she’s not comfortable with you being there—her presence makes her uncomfortable—why? Because it was Arabs who flew planes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. See.
And that fact—she’s on an airplane and there’s an Arab and somehow psychologically it makes her uncomfortable so it’s very understandable that she not be asked to leave since she’s made it clear that she’s not going to be a very big risk to the flight, but rather the individuals sitting there doing nothing have to leave.

And why by the way did it take Arabs to do what people here should have done a long time ago?

Nice, huh? I seem to remember Al Qaeda terrorism handbooks making the exact same points about how to blend in and strike without notice.

Good to see Churchill has at least one fan out there.

See Michelle Malkin for the audio for all four tapes and further transcripts.

H/t to the indispensible Little Green Footballs.

posted by Ace at 11:07 AM

Comments

Encouraging homegrown terrorism. What, pray tell, is the difference between these people and the Timothy McVeighs of the world? So far left that he's coming up on the right, indeed.

OK, NOW can we charge him with sedition?

I really don't care if he becomes a martyr in the process. Put this murder-enabler in the hole and throw away the key.

Posted by: lauraw on February 24, 2005 11:18 AM

I am a captain at a major national airline. Churchill is completely wrong when says that the discomfort that a Nordic woman might have at the sight of an Arabic man would be enough to have him removed. In spite of the overwhelming evidence that most of today's terrorists are Arabs, we do not profile on visuals, but rather behavior.

I am also a graduate of the University of Colorado. Not only is Churchill doing a fabulous job of embarassing himself (and anyone who might support him), but he's embarassing people like me, who, absent my alumni status, have absolutely nothing in common with him.

Posted by: azlibertarian on February 24, 2005 11:36 AM

Some of Churchill's statements fell out of block quotes in your entry--so that it looks as if you're saying Churchillian tripe.
Please fix before someone gets the wrong impression of you.

Posted by: m on February 24, 2005 01:47 PM

Thanks so much, M.

Posted by: ace on February 24, 2005 02:02 PM

CALLING ALL BLOGGERS: Below are all the email addresses for the Board of Regents at Ward Churchill's university the Univ. of Colorado who are considering firing him right now. Let's send 'em all an email to help 'em make up their minds!

NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF THE BOARD OF REGENTS AS OF JANUARY 12, 2005
2001-20071995-2001At LargeR
Dr. Peter Steinhauer (D.D.S.)7492 Spring DriveBoulder, CO 80303 303-499-1278 (fax 303-543-2351) e-mail Peter.Steinhauer@colorado.edu
2003-2009District 2D

Ms. Cindy Carlisle411 Spruce StreetBoulder, CO 80302303-444-2606 (fax 303-444-0057) e-mail Regent.Carlisle@colorado.edu
2003-2009District 7R

Ms. Patricia Hayes12575 East Bates CircleAurora, CO 80014303-369-0054 (fax 303-740-8409)e-mail Regent.Hayes@colorado.edu
2005-2011District 1D

Mr. Michael Carrigan555 Seventeenth Street, Suite 3200Denver, CO 80202(303)-295-8314 (fax 303-975-5489)e-mail Carrigan@colorado.edu
1999-2005District 4R

Mr. Tom LuceroP.O. Box 921Johnstown, CO 80534 970-978-1142 (fax 970-587-0920) e-mail Tommyjclay@aol.com* Please send communications as an attachment to his email when possible
2005-2011At LargeR

Mr. Steve BosleyP.O. Box 270509 Louisville, CO 80027303-604-2313 (fax 303-604-2313)e-mail Regent.Bosley@colorado.edu
2001-20071995-2001District 5R

Mr. Jerry G. Rutledge, Chair2745 Springmede CourtColorado Springs, CO 80906-3716719-527-8868 (fax 719-632-7694) e-mail Jerryrutledge@adelphia.net

(ACE - Hope this is not too long for your site, if so delete it.)

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on February 24, 2005 02:21 PM

ACE - Hope you don't mind but I just couldn't resist repeating this:

Ward Churchill heap full'a bullshit. He ask'um Old Chief how he nam'um babies. Chief say: When I see dancing wolves and there is baby born, I name'um Dances With Wolves. When I see flying eagle and baby is born I call'um Flying Eagle. But tell me Two Dogs Fucking, why do you ask?

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on February 24, 2005 02:45 PM


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And as a white man standing here in your midst from a fairly liberal/conservative/middle of the road background—and I tell people I’m so far left I’m coming up on the rigt—and I’d like you to respond to, why shouldn’t we do something and how could we move so they don’t see us coming? Churchill: I’m gonna repeat that, tell me if I got that right: Why shouldn’t we do something and how do you you move so they don’t see you coming. As to the first part, not a reason in the world that I could see. I can’t find a single reason that you shouldn’t in a principled way—there may be some practical considerations, such as do you know how (laughter from audience)—you know, often these things are processes. "Laughter from audience." Hee, hee. It's fun to discuss committing acts of terrorism against the US. It’s not just an impulse. And certainly it’s not just an event. And the simple answer, although it probably should be more complicated, but I’m not being flip and giving the simple answer, is: You carry the weapon. That’s how they don’t see it coming. You’re the one…They talk about ‘color blind or blind to your color.’ You said it yourself. You don’t send the Black Liberation Army into Wall Street to conduct an action. You don’t send the American Indian Movement into downtown Seattle to conduct an action. Who do you send? You. Your beard shaved, your hair cut close, and wearing a banker’s suit. There’s probably a whole lot more to it, you know that. But there’s where you start. He continues with this line of suggestion in Part II: If you are Arab, for example, you are automatically profiled as a potential terrorist. Period. And you can be asked to leave a plane because some Nordic-looking woman two rows down tells the stewardess she’s not comfortable with you being there—her presence makes her uncomfortable—why? Because it was Arabs who flew planes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. See. And that fact—she’s on an airplane and there’s an Arab and somehow psychologically it makes her uncomfortable so it’s very understandable that she not be asked to leave since she’s made it clear that she’s not going to be a very big risk to the flight, but rather the individuals sitting there doing nothing have to leave. And why by the way did it take Arabs to do what people here should have done a long time ago? Nice, huh? I seem to remember Al Qaeda terrorism handbooks making the exact same points about how to blend in and strike without notice. Good to see Churchill has at least one fan out there. See Michelle Malkin for the audio for all four tapes and further transcripts. H/t to the indispensible Little Green Footballs. posted by Ace at 11:07 AM Comments Encouraging homegrown terrorism. What, pray tell, is the difference between these people and the Timothy McVeighs of the world? So far left that he's coming up on the right, indeed. OK, NOW can we charge him with sedition? I really don't care if he becomes a martyr in the process. Put this murder-enabler in the hole and throw away the key. Posted by: lauraw on February 24, 2005 11:18 AM I am a captain at a major national airline. Churchill is completely wrong when says that the discomfort that a Nordic woman might have at the sight of an Arabic man would be enough to have him removed. In spite of the overwhelming evidence that most of today's terrorists are Arabs, we do not profile on visuals, but rather behavior. I am also a graduate of the University of Colorado. Not only is Churchill doing a fabulous job of embarassing himself (and anyone who might support him), but he's embarassing people like me, who, absent my alumni status, have absolutely nothing in common with him. Posted by: azlibertarian on February 24, 2005 11:36 AM Some of Churchill's statements fell out of block quotes in your entry--so that it looks as if you're saying Churchillian tripe. Please fix before someone gets the wrong impression of you. Posted by: m on February 24, 2005 01:47 PM Thanks so much, M. Posted by: ace on February 24, 2005 02:02 PM CALLING ALL BLOGGERS: Below are all the email addresses for the Board of Regents at Ward Churchill's university the Univ. of Colorado who are considering firing him right now. Let's send 'em all an email to help 'em make up their minds! NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF THE BOARD OF REGENTS AS OF JANUARY 12, 2005 2001-20071995-2001At LargeR Dr. Peter Steinhauer (D.D.S.)7492 Spring DriveBoulder, CO 80303 303-499-1278 (fax 303-543-2351) e-mail Peter.Steinhauer@colorado.edu 2003-2009District 2D Ms. Cindy Carlisle411 Spruce StreetBoulder, CO 80302303-444-2606 (fax 303-444-0057) e-mail Regent.Carlisle@colorado.edu 2003-2009District 7R Ms. Patricia Hayes12575 East Bates CircleAurora, CO 80014303-369-0054 (fax 303-740-8409)e-mail Regent.Hayes@colorado.edu 2005-2011District 1D Mr. Michael Carrigan555 Seventeenth Street, Suite 3200Denver, CO 80202(303)-295-8314 (fax 303-975-5489)e-mail Carrigan@colorado.edu 1999-2005District 4R Mr. Tom LuceroP.O. Box 921Johnstown, CO 80534 970-978-1142 (fax 970-587-0920) e-mail Tommyjclay@aol.com* Please send communications as an attachment to his email when possible 2005-2011At LargeR Mr. Steve BosleyP.O. Box 270509 Louisville, CO 80027303-604-2313 (fax 303-604-2313)e-mail Regent.Bosley@colorado.edu 2001-20071995-2001District 5R Mr. Jerry G. Rutledge, Chair2745 Springmede CourtColorado Springs, CO 80906-3716719-527-8868 (fax 719-632-7694) e-mail Jerryrutledge@adelphia.net (ACE - Hope this is not too long for your site, if so delete it.) Posted by: 72VIRGINS on February 24, 2005 02:21 PM ACE - Hope you don't mind but I just couldn't resist repeating this: Ward Churchill heap full'a bullshit. He ask'um Old Chief how he nam'um babies. Chief say: When I see dancing wolves and there is baby born, I name'um Dances With Wolves. When I see flying eagle and baby is born I call'um Flying Eagle. But tell me Two Dogs Fucking, why do you ask? Posted by: 72VIRGINS on February 24, 2005 02:45 PM Post a comment Name: Email Address: URL: Comments: Remember info?	Now Available! 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