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February 10, 2005

Um, Okay: Detainees Accuse Female Interrogators of Violating the Geneva Convention Rule Against Lap-Dances

There are a couple of different sorts of charges leveled.

The first sort is of the "Okay, might have happened, so f'n' what?" variety.

The second sort of charge is of the "Yeah, you wish she did that" sort.

Separate them out for yourselves:

Female interrogators repeatedly used sexually suggestive tactics to try to humiliate and pry information from devout Muslim men held at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to a military investigation not yet public and newly declassified accounts from detainees.

The prisoners have told their lawyers, who compiled the accounts, that female interrogators regularly violated Muslim taboos about sex and contact with women. The women rubbed their bodies against the men, wore skimpy clothes in front of them, made sexually explicit remarks and touched them provocatively, at least eight detainees said in documents or through their attorneys.

Horrors. That sort of treatment usually costs me $10 admission and a buck a minute in tips.

The inquiry uncovered numerous instances in which female interrogators, using dye, pretended to spread menstrual blood on Muslim men, the official said. Separately, in court papers and public statements, three detainees say that women smeared them with blood.

Torture!

...

Some of the newly declassified accounts of detainees evoke scenes from a rock music video. German detainee Murat Kurnaz told his lawyer that three women in lacy bras and panties strutted into the interrogation room where he was sitting in chains. They cooed about how attractive he was and suggested "they could have some fun," he said.

Three words: Gob. Smackingly. Vile.

But it gets even worse:

When Kurnaz averted his eyes, he said, one woman sat on his lap, another rubbed her breasts against his back and massaged his chest and a third squatted near his crotch. He head-butted the woman behind him, he said, knocking her off him. All three ran out and a team of soldiers stormed in and beat him, he said.

...

Esmail said "she bent down with her breasts on the table and her legs almost touching" him. "Are you going to talk," she asked, "or are we going to do this for six hours?"

Time for a repost... caution: content warning.


A while ago there were reports from terrorist prisoners that women interrogators were literally raping the prisoners. Andrew Sullivan, of course, got his Tuesday case of the vapors and shrieked about it as if it were a credible charge:

One plaintiff, identified only as Neisef, claims that after he was taken from his home on the outskirts of Baghdad last November and sent to Abu Ghraib, Americans made him disrobe and attached electrical wires to his genitals. He claims he was shocked three times. Although a vein in his penis ruptured and he had blood in his urine, he says, he was refused medical attention. In another session, Neisef claims, he was held down by two men while a uniformed woman forced him to have sex with her. "I was crying," said Neisef, 28. "I felt like my whole manhood was gone."

Hmmmm... two men forced this poor man down, while a woman forced him to have sex with her.

This is a Penthouse Forum fantasy, not a credible fucking charge. This is the sort of fantasy concocted by a sexually-repressed Islamoretard who believes such things are possible in the decadent US

We should be so lucky.

Dear Penthouse Forum,

My name is Neisef, and I am a student at a large Middle-Eastern university. I never thought these letters were real, until something happened to me to make me believe all these stories were true.

I had been unjustly taken prisoner for attempting to give chocolates and flowers to an infidel occupier. On my third day of captivity, a woman interrogator demanded I strip off my clothes and begin caressing her breasts. She called herself "Sasha," and she seemed to be a Jew kaffir. Although she was the degenerate offspring of pigs and apes, Allah have mercy, she also had the juiciest 38DD Kasabah melons and an ass like a two-year-old colt donkey...

Riiiiiiight.

How many forcible genital rapes of men -- by women -- occur each year?

How about each fucking decade?

How about in all of recorded human history?

Woman occasionally, but rarely, commit sex offenses at all. They commit statutory rape on rare occasions. On even rarer occasions, they might sodomize another person -- male or female -- with a digit or object.

But forcing a man to have actual genital-to-genital sex-- against his will? How many women are so hard-up they need to rape a dirty, filthy terrorist prisoner?

Let me get this straight: This woman couldn't get voluntary sex from a man... in the United States Armed Forces.

Talk about not being able to get laid in women's prison with a fistful of pardons. Talk about not being able to get your leg humped in a kennel with your pockets filled with lunchmeat and chew-toys.

If it's true that this woman couldn't manage to get voluntary sex from 135,000 horny, sexually-deprived soldiers and therfore raped a dirty, stinking prisoner, then I'd say right there is your reason why we can't allow any additional gay men in the military.

Why, look at the tragic results! If only one man stationed in Iraq had been attracted to the female sex, all of this ugliness might have been avoided.

And how the hell does the man maintain an erection during this "violation"?

I don't say this is impossible. I will say it is so unlikely to be laugh-out-loud ludicrous, especially without serious corroborating evidence.

But I'm not surprised that the very objective Time magazine reports this, nor that the very independent, still-deciding-between-Bush-and-Kerry Randy Andy cites this article as a damning indictment.

PS: While I was away at the beatuiful Mount Airy Lodge, I was abducted and chain-raped by a gang of buxom Catholic high-school cheerleaders.

And yes, I know I will be harrangued for continuing to write about my violation.

But I won't let that stop me. I will soldier on bravely, and see if I can't interest Cinemax in filming my sordid story, which I've tentatively titled Man-Handled: The Greatest Fucking Thing That Ever Fucking Happened to Me In My Entire Fucking Life.

posted by Ace at 01:11 PM
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I guess this kind of behavior is only frowned upon in the military if it is done outside a prison

Posted by: Ryan on February 10, 2005 01:18 PM

Reminds me of a joke:

An 87 year old man enters a confessional. The priest on the other side asks "What is your confession?"

The old man replies, "Father, I have been married for 63 years. I love my wife dearly and have been faithful to her until last night. Last night, two college cheerleaders seduced me into having intercourse with them three times each.."

"Yes, that is bad, " decried the priest. "Tell me, when was your last confession?"

"Confession? Never. I'm jewish, " said the old man.

"Jewish? Then why are you telling me this?" asked the priest.

"Telling you? Hell, I'm telling everyone!"

Posted by: on February 10, 2005 01:21 PM

Well I was going along with Neisef's "rape" account until he said he faked an orgasm.

Posted by: PeterArgus on February 10, 2005 01:24 PM

This one time, at terrorist camp . . .

Posted by: hobgoblin on February 10, 2005 01:24 PM

This looks like the job for a little haiku:

saving myself for
my seventy-two virgins
put your clothes back on

oh Allah help me
your lapdance makes me dirty
so very dirty

I will defy you
American infidel!
(can I change my pants?)

Posted by: Johnny Catbird on February 10, 2005 02:09 PM

Wait, lemme get this straight. You kill GIs, blow up Americans, and when you're captured by them you get lap dances? And if you capture them, you get to behead them?
And these idiots are complaining?! They're too stupid to win.

Posted by: Iblis on February 10, 2005 03:10 PM

"This is a Penthouse Forum fantasy, not a credible fucking charge."

WTF!?! Are you saying the sh** in Penthouse Forum doesn't really happen. I mean, for goodness sake, Ace, put a freakin' disclaimer on your post if you're gonna tell us Santa Claus isn't frickin' real.

If you tell us the plot twist of an M. Night Shyamalan (okay, bad example as they're predictable, but still) movie, you give us a little heads up, all right.

And if you tell us there is no s*x in the champagne room, I don't know what I'll do.

Posted by: Birkel on February 10, 2005 04:00 PM

Hey, I'm thinking maybe we should organize a 'The Mouse That Roared' kind of thing. We surrender, get sent to Gitmo, then its party time baby!! Who's in?

Posted by: BrewFan on February 10, 2005 04:14 PM

Ace,

"Man-Handled: The Greatest Fucking Thing That Ever Fucking Happened to Me In My Entire Fucking Life."

LOL.


Iblis,

"Wait, lemme get this straight. You kill GIs, blow up Americans, and when you're captured by them you get lap dances? And if you capture them, you get to behead them?
And these idiots are complaining?! "

You forgot about three squares, 5 prayer times, holy book, medical treatment, an army of lawyers and millions worldwide in the "Free West" rooting for them, not to mention the UN too, and remember, just for a moment, that these guys were captured fighting trying to kill our troops or Iraqi/Afghani civilians, and...wait for it...

BusHitler!

Cheney McNaziHalibutron!

No Blood for Oil!

Bush Lied!

House Nigga' Condi

Uncle Tom Colin Powell

ShaaaaaarrrrrrrooooooooonnnnNN!!!

Makes me proud to be an American.

Sigh.

Posted by: MeTooThen on February 10, 2005 04:15 PM

That post had it all - humor, invective and filthy, dirty cussin'.

And there was much laughing.

Posted by: Peter on February 10, 2005 08:03 PM

THIS constitutes TORTURE????

If so, mark me down as a masochist...

And the liberals actually had the nerve to whine about the heavy-breathing passages in The Starr Report...

Posted by: WesSeaton on February 10, 2005 10:17 PM


Can't "Gitmo" Satisfaction

Posted by: Mikey on February 11, 2005 04:00 PM
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