Well I kinda just threw a hissy fit in the last posts' comments, and over at my blog (over the Jordan thing). I think the whole situation stinks, and is lame to the nth degree.

Yeah. . . a bit late now. . .

Sheesh. From now on, I'm sending all my links to Filet-O-Fish.

Thanks for nothin' "pal",
Dave at Garfield Ridge

P.S. I hope you have brain worms.

Thanks for the link! It amazes me that the press/democrats (same thing) can never let Bush have anything. He wants to reform Social Security - he's starving old Americans. He wants Iraqis to vote - he's starving old Iraqis. It's a good thing we have the crack staff at the Washington Post to keep us updated.

As to the 13-year-old kid, that did seem to be a little harsh attacking a boy. He should have linked to it, but cut the kid some slack. As soon as his parents let him get back online, he tried to fix the situation. Man, what the crazy blog money will do to someone.

I'm glad you don't have crazy blog money, Ace. You wouldn't be nearly as good and you would start harashing little boys for their lunch money/insta-links.

That does it.

I'm gonna start blogging again.

Target number one? Cheese and Crackers. I'm taking that assclown down.

What a pussy. A grown man pickin on a little kid. He should have done the mature responible think and just fixed the link so that it would go to animal porn. that will get you an Instalanch for sure.

THE FAT KID BLOG

Obviously this rescue is a job for Team America.

America!

Fuck Yeah!

I've posted this elsewhere, but I'll post it here as well.

I sincerely apologize for the "bastard" comment. It was out of line and unnecessary. I was hot under the collar and I should have waited until I had calmed down to post on the topic.

Matt and B4B should not be dragged through the muck for that comment, that was my comment, not his.

Really, the entire issue was my doing. Matt mentioned to me that his image got instalanched at another site. I had been in contact with Austin before over other things including the Tsunami videos. I overreacted. Again, I apologize.

-jg

Bite me, Jordan bot.

Jordan,

Your apology is appreciated. Unfortunately, I have already posted an account of your attempt to seduce me.

Sorry, dude.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

That kid threatened to SUE you? This is getting bigger and bigger...

Dirty trick - lmfao

Who's the gullible bitch? *raises hand*

Everybody has apologized. So, why doesn't everybody else just drop it.

Because the "apology" is self-serving and disingenuous. And, the 13 year old kid (Austin) has been hurt by losing his blog while the a-hole tsunami profiteer Jordan is hoping we'll let him skate.

His actions deserve derision and scorn. In my opinion, he's a prick who deserves to be reminded of his asshole actions at every opportunity.

A form letter is not an apology. He's posted it to the comments sections of a dozen sites so far. It is likely he won't even return to read any responses. Those "apologies" are just turds flung at the people who called Jordan on his utter asinity. Not only is he a dick, he seems to be a spammer as well. What a fucking winner.

Who are you to determine what his apology is or is not? I believe that is up to Austin and his parents. For you to feign outrage on their behalf is disingenuous at best. And in my opinion, you're a prick, so consider that part of your argument canceled out.

Julie,

Who are you to determine whether my outrage on Austin's behalf is disingenuous? In my opinion you are a cunt, so consider BOTH parts of your argument cancelled out.

We've heard from Jordan, but what about Margolis?

LMFAO - everybody loves julie.

These two responses:

Because the "apology" is self-serving and disingenuous. And, the 13 year old kid (Austin) has been hurt by losing his blog while the a-hole tsunami profiteer Jordan is hoping we'll let him skate.

His actions deserve derision and scorn. In my opinion, he's a prick who deserves to be reminded of his asshole actions at every opportunity. and

A form letter is not an apology. He's posted it to the comments sections of a dozen sites so far. It is likely he won't even return to read any responses. Those "apologies" are just turds flung at the people who called Jordan on his utter asinity. Not only is he a dick, he seems to be a spammer as well. What a fucking winner.

Why wouldn't he post it on dozen of sites, since dozens of sites are bashing him. That he even bothered to post it on more than the ones that are read by more than two people deserves some credit. And you don't know what he will read or not read, Mr. Psycho (ic). And why would any one bother if crap like yours is all they will read. Too bad Free Austin doesn't have the maturity of the real Austin.

Since you are qualified to determine that his apology is self-serving and disingenious, why not? And are you speaking on behalf of Austin and his parents? Did they give you permission to do so? If not, it's disingenuous. And what' the matter? You can call someone a prick but they can't call you one? Tsk Tsk.

Fat boy, what else could one expect posted on a c-rate blog such as yours.

Why wouldn't he post it on dozen of sites, since dozens of sites are bashing him.

Only after I suggested it over at INDC did he come up with an "apology" post on his site, which was nothing more than ANOTHER stupid fucking copy>paste job of the same verbal diahrrhea he posted on everyone elses' blog. This kid most certainly is NOT sorry, and he's hoping, much like Dan Rather, we simply moveon™ to the next story of the day.

I post on the Fat Kids blog. Dont make me lay the pimp hand on ya.

FAT KID BLOG

Why wouldn't he post it on dozen of sites, since dozens of sites are bashing him.

Because that would be spamming. To the majority of bloggers, spamming comment sections seems to be considered a, how-you-say, breach of etiquette as well. Jordan should know better. Jordan is a spammer.

This is getting unnecessarily nasty, and I'll have to ask you all to stop now.

Senator-- don't call a woman a cunt here, please. Only I'm allowed to do that.

I think there was overreaction, but swiping sucks, man. I've had shit swiped, and it still pisses me off.

Julie,

The fact that you don't consider the "apology" to be self-serving and disingenuous (the justification for these conclusions are nicely summarized by Free Austin) speaks volumes. As does the fact that you don't seem to see any injustice in an adult bullying a 13 year old kid to the point he loses his blog. But perhaps you enjoy abusing children.

I speak only for myself. I find Jordan's actions distasteful and over the line. And I still find you to be a cunt. Feel free to call me anything you like.

Love,

Senator

Further use of the word "cunt" will result in deletions.

Interesting. I’ve heard of both B4B and Cheese but I’ve never ventured to their sites (unless I inadvertently followed a link).

Thanks to this, I won’t be adding them to my stops, either. OTOH, if Austin starts blogging again I would likely give him and his family my support.

A sincere apology is owed to Austin and his family (not the blogosphere -- he didn't insult IT), and if it’s believed and accepted, then Austin should be the one posting the apology (and its acceptance) for the public to read...and then Golson would have something to link to that wouldn't sound so self-serving. As is it, Golson just sounds like he’s playing, “Hey, I apologized so look at me, I’m not a jerk!” by posting something publically himself, which doesn't mean Squat if Austin doesn't accept it (and unless it's rendered with a touch more humility than this posted one is, I wouldn't blame Austin for telling Golson to place it in his nether regions).

Senator Philabuster, let us know when your site's up.

Good grief, bullies make me ill.

Later,
bbeck

(Posted part of this at Protein Wisdom, too, where the form apology is also posted.)

Ace, I apologize to you..my last comment was posted before I saw your request. I will refrain from calling Julie that again (although I reserve my right to use other choice words). I simply wanted to structure a "parallel" response to the one she posted, and that seemed the best fit.

Fat Kid: Use my comments on your blog all you like. It might help raise you from a C blog to a B-. :)

Actually, it was phil's word of the day. Bitch at him.

So, lack of blog ads means you're a douchebag? I bet at one time Ace didn't have many blog ads.

HEY ACE! DID YOU KNOW FATBOY THOUGHT YOU WERE A DOUCHE BAG?

And he only apologized after you suggested it? Oh brother! You give yourself way too much credit. Is he suppose to write a different apology for every website? Why? And, he doesn't owe YOU the apology. He owed Austin the apology. Why your need to make it all about you? And I have no doubt you and a few others won't moveon because what else are you able to come up to write about.

+++NEWS FLASH+++

Julie, you already lost this one. Sorry.

Calm down Julie. Im sure he ment "cunt" in the nicest possible way. I call my friends that all the time. I am personally sending you an invitation to the Fat Kids blog. Just dont call me a prick if you dont like what you see.

FAT KID BLOG

Senator - I'll always be a "C" blog. I'm not funny. That's why I have amish guest-blogging. Heh.

I don't really care what people do with their blogs, but this whole Golsen thing feels kinda "Sullivan-ish"- doesn't it? I'm not going to sign up for blogads or googleads or any crap like that, I write b/c it's a catharsis for me. I don't mind Ace having blogads, but I don't click 'em - I just hit the tip jar (which I haven't done for a while). I *am* wary of blogs where all they have is advertisements all over the place though FWIW.

Phil: My response mimiced yours, so don't pretend to be justified with yours to me. And since we're critiquing apologies, I love your sincere apology to Ace. Did you call him the C word, too???? I have no doubt you will call me many foul names from now on, since, that is about as clever as a person like you gets.

Will do, bbeck. :) I hope to have it up and running by the weekend.

Philly:
That you fail to recognize your own bullying, speaks volumes about you. And I enjoy abusing children as much as you enjoy having carnal relations with them.

Julie,

As a long time friend of this site, my apology to Ace was sincere.

Were I to apologize to you, however, that would be disingenuous.

+++NEWS FLASH+++

Fatboy, the only loser is you. Sorry.

Amish: Better re-read what Ace said about deleting posts.

Phil: I wouldn't expect you to be anything but disingenuous.

Ace,

thanks for the h/t. the puppet thing hasn't got enough play from the Nader angle. Everyone click on that link to find out if Nader is actually the alter ego of Zarqawi

Now, as for the flamewar,
Wow.

Julie, are you really NOT jordan?

b/c I can't understand why you're getting so mad about this.

senator and fat kid, jeesh, dial it down a notch.

Who really cares? It's not your kid, not your blog. I thing the B4B and C&C guys acted like total assholes, and the "apology" is pretty lame.

That said, None of it really means anything.

julie, although ace has banned the c-word from use, I will say that going straight for fat kid's blog was a bit low (even if they do teach girls to grab the nutsack first in a fight)

Can't we all just get along?

Let's all just take it down a notch, okay?

You guys are arguing about a minor blog contretemps and you're all name-calling.

It's a minor argument that you're blowing up into a major personal dispute.

Just ratchet it down. One can disagree without being disagreeable.

Well, I can't, but I'm told that others can.

Julie,

In that case, let me say that I enjoy your insightful and brilliant posts and hope that you remain a constant presence in Ace's comment section. Your subtle wit, and flashes of enlightened humor are a constant source of inspiration for all those who visit on a daily basis.

All due respect.

Your pal,

Senator

So ace, how's tricks?

See any good movies lately?

Good movies? No. I was sick as a dog all day yesterday so I watched a lot of TV.

Like, a LOT.

I tried to watch The Alamo; boring. I don't know if I'll be able to finish watching it tonight.

I saw the much-maligned Cat in the Hat (yes, I was DESPERATE) and found that it wasn't nearly as bad as claimed. I had a couple of chuckles.

Tried to watch Love in the Time of Cholera, which featured Vera Farmiga (who I met at Sundance) as a prostitute, but I got bored of that after she banged some dude.

And I finally saw Speechless, with Michael Keaton and Geena Davis, which I'd wanted to see since... well, since forever. It was okay. Semi-amusing romcom fluff.

One thing I will say ace, is that when you're dealing with a 6th grader, the rules of attribution and blog etiquette should be taught, not threatened with legal action. The kid's 13 for kripe's sake.

"13 or 50" does make a difference. We're as bad a Leftists if we don't recognize people's inherent differences based on their age/gender/education/race etc. Y'know?

(please don't call me a cunny)

Ace, you should have stuck with "Shawn of the Dead." Best movie I've seen in a long time.

Later,
bbeck

Bbeck,

Ummm... yeah, but I've already watched it three times!

Hey Ace,

You said that you Liked strangers with candy Right? Did stephen colbert and that guy hes always making out with have another show on comedy central? I cant help but think ive seen them on something together before.

FAT KID BLOG

Steven Colbert is a "correspondent" on the Daily Show.

I don't know if I've seen Paul Dinello anywhere else.

"Love in the Time of Cholera"

how . . . interesting

LOL

Sounds like a real great time when you're sick to death and bored out of your skull. What's next, i>Coitus in the time of Leprosy? (though seeing Vera having boingidy boingidy (damn filter you got there, ace) doesn't seem entirely bad)

Don't you have an XBox?

best buck-fifty you'll ever spend

Hobbie: Are you sure you are really NOT fatboy?

Im thinking it was a sketch comedy show in the mid 90s. 'The Vacant Lot' maybe?
Does anybody else know?

FAT KID BLOG

Julie,

ace can confirm my independent existence.

Really, why so disagreeable?

These dorks pushed around a fifth or sixth grader. A few rations of shit is the least they deserve for such questionable behavior. No need for you to make enemies over their stupidity.

Real cool to go for the blog. If I have 1/2 of a hair on a rat's nutsack what went on there, I might care. I mean jesus, you should see the stuff Amish is tryin to get me to post! LOL *shakes fist* Damn you amish, that guys face has been seared, SEARED i tell you, into my minds eye!

ROFL

have = supposed to say "gave".

Heh. I don't have hairy rat balls... just to be clear.

Youre not talking about the worlds greatest photoshop of Andrew Sullivan are you?
Oh i guess you mean that picture of 'Arse Face'....

Ace meet Arse Face.

Arseface meet Ace,

FAT KID BLOG

Disagreeable? Only mimicking the posts you and your friends are currently making to me, hobbie. And don't give me this who deserves what. You're not God. Nothing will ever satisfy you and your buddies because it has very little to so with what transpired and more to do with your own questionable behavior and the need to pile on.

*yawn*

"...Only mimicking the posts you and your friends are currently making to me, hobbie. "

Julie, are you Roger Stern?

julie,

"your own questionable behavior"

allright, that tears it.

for the last time: I am NOT fat kid or the senator.

I have already disclaimed any real interest in this.

Why do you care so damn much about if some strangers (i.e. myself and others here) are "piling on" other strangers (B4B and C&C)? This was the reason for my "are you Jordan" comment.

I wasn't being insulting, but I might reconsider that stance if you keep writing as if your very being was enmeshed in clearing the hallowed name of B4B and C&C.

Seriously, I've done nothing at all to you, comment wise, that I didn't dish out to fat kid and senator about the whole Insta-gate flamewar. I'll repeat for you: I don't care much about this outside the humor aspects of it (see Goldstein's post over at PW). I thought everyone needed to take some deep breaths and stop teh blue-on-blue bloodshed.

My only distinct gripe with you was insulting a guy's blog out of the blue.

That was out of line, IMAO.

What is wrong with you (today)?

And don't give me this who deserves what. You're not God. Nothing will ever satisfy you and your buddies

Are we projecting some of your personal relationship problems onto the situation?

Give it a rest.

But if you continue to badger me, I'll respond. I'll be as polite as is called for, but I'm not going to let you fly off the rails at me unanswered.

For the record, I never claimed to be God.

According to Fat Kid, though, Amish has a more direct line to the Big Guy than most.

Let's be honest. As trolls go, Julie's no Cedarford.

I'm just wondering why she's still hanging around? Isn't she usually threatening 9 year old bloggers with copyright infringement lawsuits at this time of day?

Out for dinner. I leave the fight in hobgoblins capable hands.

sorry, sen. I'm outta here, too, for the night.

I really don't know who is more reprehensible - that no-talent nadless IP bully Jordan, or his morally vacuous, intellectually stunted apologists.

Face it, the kid was a step ahead of the idiots. Bonehead4Bush is probably kicking himself for not sending an email to instapundit himself. Sorry Challie. U snooze, U loose. And spammer Jordan Golddigger , it seems from the beginning, had some kind of chip on his shoulder regarding Austin. He admits to harrassing the youngster via email in the past. Dickcheeze likely passes his spare time pulling the wings off of tse-tse flies. Probably kicks his cat too. Only a doltish blog groupie with extremely low self esteem would ever pay attention to that loser, let alone go on the internet and defend him. Pathetic! And what of the other blogger involved... the shadowy Wes Roth? S/He's likely the third link in this axis of evil.

Julie are you "Wes Roth"?

Only three times, Ace? I've watched it way more times than that since I got it. I keep checking to see if I've got red on me.

Okay, so how about "Alien vs. Predator"? That just came out and it sucked almost as badly as the critics said it did...and I'll still watch it again before I torture myself with "The Bridges of Madison County."

Later,
bbeck

Hobbie:

If you had no interest in this, you wouldn't continue to make snide comments, are you jordan, being only one of them.

And yes you were and still are insulting and I couldn't give a shit what you reconsider. I know no one you mention and I hardly know Jordan, if at all. What I can't stand is this 'no apology is good enough for us even though we aren't the target of the intended apology therefore we can pile on, disparage, and curse as much and as long as we want to.' In short, I hate mob behaviors. And I insult no one out of the blue. If you guys can't take what you have dished out all along, tough.

What is wrong with you (today)? You.

Are we projecting some of your personal relationship problems onto the situation?

No. But we can see that you sure are.

But if you continue to badger me, I'll respond. I'll be as polite as is called for, but I'm not going to let you fly off the rails at me unanswered.

Responding to your snide remarks is not badgering, hobbie. I said nothing to you until you aimed your big yap at me. You weren't polite before, so I doubt you will be polite 'as is called.' And you are in no position to state you are going to allow or disallow me to do anything. So, you give it a rest.

Phil: Why are you hanging around? Shouldn't you be our getting a rope, a chair, and scouting for a suitable tree?

Everyone ignore Julie and eventually she'll go away.

bbeck,

Yeah, I just saw AvP; forgot to mention that. It was very forgettable.

Not good. Not howlingly bad. Just nothing particularly interesting.

I thought the shifting-about pyramid was pretty dumb.

Interesting Fat Kid, I keep hoping that plan will work on you. Hasn't yet.

Ace would you please post something. Im bored. Ive been playing the worlds smallest game of pac man for an hour.

Look everybody, it's Jordan! Nice to see you picking on someone your own age for a change.

You must be very proud of yourself today. It takes a big man to bring the hammer down on a 13 year old kid. What's next on your agenda? Gonna go to the mall and tell 6 year olds there isn't a Santa Claus?

Assclown.

...are you saying there isnt a Santa?

Nope. You didn't hear it from me. :)

o.k. -next question- is Jordan really an assclown?

FAT KID BLOG

Everyone involved is an idiot, but particularly Austin's parents. Any fools who allow their kid to blog on adult issues should be sent to parenting classes. Here's hoping his blog stays down.

My take.

Ace, I thought it was hilarious that the pyramid kept shifting every 10 minutes because the Italian guy said the alien calendar was based on 10...so just why were the aliens using MINUTES? lol.

While listening to the commentary on one of my Alien DVDs, Sigourney Weaver said she'd be in interested in doing an Alien V. Man, I don't know about that...

Later,
bbeck

Never thought I'd hear "Hot 'N Nasty" by Humble Pie on NPR.

Still doesn't mitigate Garrison Keillor and Ira Glass, though.

Julie,

LOL

I believe I made clear that I had no interest in the whole bully-gate mess, but now I also have no interest in you and your soap-operatics.

Making enemies over strangers, whew. You're one weird cat, Julie.

Woo hoo Jordan's here! Guess what Jordan, I just "stole" an instalanche. Technically Amish wrote the post, but hey, *I* got the traffic. But hey, I'm twice that kids' age, so watch out. ;)

Wow, Hobby, you really can’t read. So, once again: If you had no interest you wouldn’t keep jumping in with your snide remarks. But you do. So, you are. No matter how may times you say you aren’t. I love your repeated reference to “making enemies.” Am I suppose to feel threatened? Or, care? Rather narcissistic on your part, but hardly surprising.

We love you Julie. Please don't ever change.

Your Pal,

Senator

Thanks, Phil. But, I got to be honest here: You need a serious rehaul.

su amiga, j.