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January 22, 2005

Chinese Dirty-Bomb Plot Suspect Nabbed

Good news.

There's not much more to say about this... except.

No one is really happy that there are so many cameras out there, their unblinking eyes watching us and recording us at every ATM and cross-walk. Yes, it's all a bit Big Brother-ish.

But:

Pictures of four Chinese suspects released by the FBI were taped inside booths where subway tokens are sold by transit employees, and operators of underground parking garages started searching vehicles. Dong, the suspect in custody, was not one of the four in the pictures released by the FBI.

...you can't argue with results like that.

Yes, we are all being surveiled more, and our privacy can be invaded with greater ease-- in theory.

In reality, while the government has these tools at its disposal, it simply doesn't have the manpower (or inclination) to watch Joe Law-Abiding Citizen's daily movements just because it theoretically could.

There's so much information on all of us out there, available either freely or virtually freely. Anyone can find out an awful lot about a stranger just by hitting the right sites on the Internet.

It's not really a terrific situation, but law-enforcement officials, at least at the moment, are probably much less likely to invade your privacy than an ex-spouse or some computer geek you pissed off in a chat forum.

posted by Ace at 04:21 PM

Comments

Ace--

As I posted on my site, what worries me most (okay, next-to-most when we're talking about a dirty bomb) is that, if this actually is real, we are now facing terrorists able to use Chinese terrorists (or Chinese-looking-- they could always be North Koreans I guess) to help them out.

Makes the threat even scarier when you can't even get away with the most basic profiling.

If the enemy was *really* smart, they'd start using blue-haired old ladies. Oops, wait, sorry-- TSA checks those people just fine.

Cheers,
Dave

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 22, 2005 04:45 PM

A good example of why it's better to be an Angry Liberal. If there's no terrorist attack, it was all a put-up job by Bush Inc to keep terrorizing Americans. If there IS an attack, guess who's blamed....

Posted by: jeff on January 22, 2005 05:21 PM

When was the last time you heard of the Chinese blowing up anything? Sneaking in to work at the local Egg Roll Buffet maybe, but they don't have a strong record for anti-American terrorism.

This whole story is really fucking weird.

Posted by: SGT Dan on January 22, 2005 06:55 PM

Did any0ne catch the quote from this asshat at the end of the article?

"Emotional terrorism is probably a greater threat to us," he said as he waited for a train. "We need to look at the bigger picture.

"It seems there are so many other dangers in our society that end up getting ignored — housing, homelessness, poverty — that are in some ways more threatening," Odams said.

Posted by: Alex_SF on January 22, 2005 06:56 PM

Y'know, I'm no great fan of gov't intrusivness, but I wonder if all we have is a difference of scale or technology. In the stereotypical "small town Americana" everybody knew what everybody else was doing - you knew your neighbors, there was always at least one busy-body nosing into everything, and even the "secrets" that weren't secrets. (Harper Valley PTA, anyone?).

Functional communities need nosy neighbors.

Gov't... aahhh, I dunno about that one, but until we shake the "government nanny" attitude we might be stuck for a while.

Posted by: Chilly Willy on January 22, 2005 07:27 PM

Sneaking in to work at the local Egg Roll Buffet maybe, but they don't have a strong record for anti-American terrorism.

Um there are Chinese Muslims so it would stand to reason that there just might be extremists among all those darn "moderates."

Posted by: Paul B. on January 23, 2005 09:16 AM


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But: Pictures of four Chinese suspects released by the FBI were taped inside booths where subway tokens are sold by transit employees, and operators of underground parking garages started searching vehicles. Dong, the suspect in custody, was not one of the four in the pictures released by the FBI. ...you can't argue with results like that. Yes, we are all being surveiled more, and our privacy can be invaded with greater ease-- in theory. In reality, while the government has these tools at its disposal, it simply doesn't have the manpower (or inclination) to watch Joe Law-Abiding Citizen's daily movements just because it theoretically could. There's so much information on all of us out there, available either freely or virtually freely. Anyone can find out an awful lot about a stranger just by hitting the right sites on the Internet. It's not really a terrific situation, but law-enforcement officials, at least at the moment, are probably much less likely to invade your privacy than an ex-spouse or some computer geek you pissed off in a chat forum. posted by Ace at 04:21 PM Comments Ace-- As I posted on my site, what worries me most (okay, next-to-most when we're talking about a dirty bomb) is that, if this actually is real, we are now facing terrorists able to use Chinese terrorists (or Chinese-looking-- they could always be North Koreans I guess) to help them out. Makes the threat even scarier when you can't even get away with the most basic profiling. If the enemy was really smart, they'd start using blue-haired old ladies. Oops, wait, sorry-- TSA checks those people just fine. Cheers, Dave Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 22, 2005 04:45 PM A good example of why it's better to be an Angry Liberal. If there's no terrorist attack, it was all a put-up job by Bush Inc to keep terrorizing Americans. If there IS an attack, guess who's blamed.... Posted by: jeff on January 22, 2005 05:21 PM When was the last time you heard of the Chinese blowing up anything? Sneaking in to work at the local Egg Roll Buffet maybe, but they don't have a strong record for anti-American terrorism. This whole story is really fucking weird. Posted by: SGT Dan on January 22, 2005 06:55 PM Did any0ne catch the quote from this asshat at the end of the article? "Emotional terrorism is probably a greater threat to us," he said as he waited for a train. "We need to look at the bigger picture. "It seems there are so many other dangers in our society that end up getting ignored — housing, homelessness, poverty — that are in some ways more threatening," Odams said. Posted by: Alex_SF on January 22, 2005 06:56 PM Y'know, I'm no great fan of gov't intrusivness, but I wonder if all we have is a difference of scale or technology. In the stereotypical "small town Americana" everybody knew what everybody else was doing - you knew your neighbors, there was always at least one busy-body nosing into everything, and even the "secrets" that weren't secrets. (Harper Valley PTA, anyone?). Functional communities need nosy neighbors. Gov't... aahhh, I dunno about that one, but until we shake the "government nanny" attitude we might be stuck for a while. Posted by: Chilly Willy on January 22, 2005 07:27 PM Sneaking in to work at the local Egg Roll Buffet maybe, but they don't have a strong record for anti-American terrorism. Um there are Chinese Muslims so it would stand to reason that there just might be extremists among all those darn "moderates." Posted by: Paul B. on January 23, 2005 09:16 AM Post a comment Name: Email Address: URL: Comments: Remember info?	Now Available! 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