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November 16, 2004
And Broadway Wants to "Challenge" YouMatt Howell's annoyed by theater folk: These damned actors and directors and self-aggradizing self-labeled visionaries see it as their damned duty to confront their audience — not entertain it. Certainly not entertain it. I think that the idea of "challenging" an audience has its usefulness. I think Matt is overstating things quite a bit when he says that they never want to entertain an audience, or when he suggests they should do only that. But it does seem to me that if these thespian subversives aim to challenge their audience, they're doing a spectacularly poor job of it. The typical politically-tilted play is leftist, and it's played for an audience consisting of 99% liberals and outright leftists. That's not challenging an audience-- that's reinforcing the beliefs of the audience, no different than a medieval morality play reinforces the passions and faith of the believers. Yes, there are occasional works that actually provoke the biases and beliefs of the typical theater crowd, like Mamet's Oleander. But that's the exception. It seems to me that such people are only interested in "challenging" an audience who isn't there at all. Theoretically, they could be challenging a conservative Christian audience, were they to show up en masse, which of course they rarely do. Not only aren't they doing what they claim they intend to do, but there's a certain amount of gutlessness here that belies their self-asserted status as brave provocatuers. It takes very little guts to tell an audience precisely what they already believe; indeed, one could call that pandering. And the typical audience shouldn't kid itself that it is viewing provocative or challenging fare; they shouldn't pat themselves on their backs for being open-minded enough to watch a play that leaves them with the message (apologies to Camus), "I was right, I had been right, I always was right." Is that a challenging message? Seems to me that's a pretty comforting one. I can't help but think that much of the appeal of the sort of theater Matt mentions isn't its actual provocativeness, but the presumed provocativeness of the works as regards hypothetical patrons who aren't in attendance at all. I think there's a certain feeling of "Gee whiz, if those damn Republicans were here, whooo doggies!, they sure would be feeling pretty angered and insulted right about now." It's not as if there are no interesting subjects that left-leaning writers can exploit to actually discomfit their left-leaning audiences. Lefties hate control and the lazy, arrogant power of an entrenched establishment; they hate restrictions on speech and thought. (As well they should.) Is there no benefit to exploring Marxist speech-codes and sex-codes and the like? Isn't that an inherently dramatic premise that actually could be used to challenge the unexamined biases of the acutal (rather than hypothezied) audience in attendance? And yet no one seems particularly interested in that. Instead, we get Christ-was-a-homo plays, Reagan-caused-AIDS plays, war-is-bad plays, men-suck plays, and Christian-conservatives-want-to-destroy-the-world-with-their-Millenialist-warmongering plays, over and over and over again. Hint: a play isn't truly "outrageous" or "controversial" if just about every single patron leaves the theater saying "Goodness Gracious, I guess I've been pretty much right about everything before, and now I have a catchy song in my head proving just that." Take some genuine risks, guys. Or else admit what you're doing is merely pandering to like-minded folks, and stop with the agent-of-social-change crap. PS: I don't think I said anything in this post that's likely to alienate any readers, or cause them psychological discomfort. So this post is hardly "provocative." I know that. But I'm not representing it as "controversial," either. And I'm not forever patting myself on the back for having the intellectual courage to speak truth to power. At most, I'm speaking truth to idiots. Which isn't necessarily dangerous, because, you know, what the hell can an idiot do about it? Drool on me? "Truth to Idiots" Update: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everyone's misinterpreting who the "idiots" are supposed to be in that line. I don't mean you. I mean the idiots who aren't reading this site, i.e., liberals. Do you really think I'd call you idiots? Come on. I'm far too brave and provocative a blogger to say anything that could possibly alienate a single reader. I spend my time bravely challenging the people who don't read me at all. Although, let's be honest, you are all retards. But you know that already. posted by Ace at 12:52 PM
CommentsAce-- I agree, 100%. You're not challenging me enough. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 16, 2004 01:04 PM
A verbose way of saying, "cut the crap and be more worldly". Posted by: Ron Deaton on November 16, 2004 01:07 PM
I didn't mean to challenge you. I meant to challenge all of the people who aren't reading me. They are "challenged" by my intellectual courage, although they're not aware of it, and never will be. If only they knew how badly I had just rocked their world! Posted by: ace on November 16, 2004 01:07 PM
Hell, any dead fish can swim downstream. Posted by: Joan of Argghh! on November 16, 2004 01:20 PM
Truth to idiots... Hahahahhaha... oh, wait a second.... HEY! Posted by: AndrewF on November 16, 2004 01:33 PM
"Lefties hate control and the lazy, arrogant power of an entrenched establishment; they hate restrictions on speech and thought." I beg to disagree. That is exactly what lefties adore. The New York Times, CNN, John Kerry and the Clintonistas represent the lazy, arrogant power of an entrenched establishment, and there isn't a leftard alive who doesn't love 'em. Nor do they hate restrictions on speech and thought; hence their almost-frantic and hysterical attempts to expunge all references to God from public life. Posted by: Sailor Kenshin on November 16, 2004 01:34 PM
Ace, when you said "idiots" ... you meant everyone else, and not me, right? But, for the most part ... this "construct" is true for just about everything. New York Times reader, read the Times, mostly because they agree with the editorial opinion. And, I couldn't get my mom to read "National Review" even if I promised she didn't have to attend my children's birthday parties for a year, While I think conservatives are more often faced with ideas that "challenge" their ideologies, it is just as easy for a conservative, as a liberal, to reside happily in their own dogma: avoid plays, NPR, and the mainstream media. Posted by: Carin on November 16, 2004 01:34 PM
Everyone, please see the update! I wasn't calling any of you "idiots," for Pete's sake! Posted by: Ace on November 16, 2004 01:38 PM
I heard the ever-condescending Maureen Dowd lamenting this very thing this morning on Imus. Posted by: EA on November 16, 2004 01:56 PM
Ace-- Wait, first you're challenging me, now you're calling me an idiot? Why sir, I demand satisfaction! Zell Miller had the right idea-- a duel to settle this, once and for all! May I suggest Thunderdome? Two men enter, one man leaves and all? Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 16, 2004 02:01 PM
I prefer the term "TARD", please, Ace. Now, everyone, all together, let's sing a rousing version of Black Eyed Peas "Let's get Retarded ..." Posted by: Carin on November 16, 2004 02:48 PM
Why! I am offended that Ace would call me an idiot!! I mean, I am but that's beside the point!!! I'M LEAVING!!!!111 Wait...can someone show me how to get out of here? I, like, can't find a door anywhere, you know? Oh...screw it, I guess I'll stay. But next time...next time!! Posted by: Elric on November 16, 2004 08:17 PM
I HAVE CRAYONS! I HAVE CRAAAAYONS!!!! YAY!! Posted by: Squatch on November 16, 2004 08:56 PM
I was approached by a group of my wife's artsy-fartsy near-homo friends in an effort to raise 200k for a demonstration of genital-mangling they called Talking Naughty Bits or Clever Stinky Parts or something. Anyway, they had little actually prepared for the proposal and the demonstration I would recommend as a diet aid, if not as therapy for the sex-addicted. Mostly they had applied their efforts, imagination and a fair bit of pain tolerance to the finale, which consisted of looping a steel dog leash through one player's foreskin and calling it "Dick Chain-ey". This they felt would be challenging enough to fill seats on the Lower East Side but they gave no assurance they would be able to return even one dollar of what they requested. I was to feel pleased they had approached me for such a monumental event in theatre history. I thought it might be amusing to assess their audience-raising ability by dropping them off in Bedford-Stuyvesant without the pants they seemed to have so little use for. I have yet to hear from my driver of the reaction of the locals, but will keep you window-lickers apprised. Posted by: spongeworthy on November 17, 2004 09:39 AM
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"It's f**king f**ked."
-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
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![]() That was written by Denny O'Neill and illustrated by, get this, Frank Miller. Editor to the Stars Jim Shooter was in charge at the time. I always thought the gag was original to the comic book, but in fact the "Threat or Menace" headline was a satirical joke about media bias and sensationalism for a long while. The Harvard Lampoon used it in a parody of Life magazine: "Flying Saucers: Threat or Menace?"
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