You can take it a step farther and suggest that their hatred of religion is even more dangerous because they have adopted a religion of their own. They just don't recognize it as such and that's why it's more dangerous. And central to their own gospel is denigration of religion--Christianity in particular.

Whether the religion is Anti-Americanism or Collectivism or Atheism or Snotty Dipshitism I haven't determined.

Church of the Snotty Dipshitists. I like it!

Your Blog is precisely right. But "I don't understand how the left can continue to delude itself"??? Yet we do know how they delude themselves. They have no real absolute values of any kind, merely a set of prejudices and things they think they oppose because alcoholic lechars like Ted Kennedy say so. Or because it means they get easy sex to be a part of that group. Being a Leftie is more of a social thing, it gains one entre into social groups that even Republicans envy for their casual sex and partying. And to be a Hero of such a group - WOW! Michael Moore does what he does not out of conviction, but because it allows a disgusting, ugly, fat slob to live like a Roman Emperor! Yes, sadly we do know how they delude themselves. Satan uses the same-old, same-old over and over again.

I think it's more an issue of them hiding their true convictions, a la Kerry flip-flopping. As Ann Coulter once said, "If the American people understood what Liberals really believed, they'd boil them in oil."

Mmmm, deep fried Wonkette. Tasty.

Great point, Ace.

I think the American left joins the jihadists in valuing suicide. Why else would Michael Moore have bestirred himself to argue against suicide? More on that on my blog at:

http://paragraphfarmer.blogspot.com/2004/11/counsel-of-michael-moore.html

Golden Boy: Yes Ann Coulter is right, as always. But believing that they have a right to mooch off of others for a living, have sex lives like Caligula, and be accountable and responsible to no one and nothing except their own selfish lust and greed is a long way from having absoloute values.

the funny part of all this to me is that, frankly, the left is obscenely stupid about who the right is.

Look, this is a blog with some fairly intellectually and possibly politically active conservatives checking in all the time.

And many of us spend much of our time here discussing lesbians on Survivor, speculating on Wonkette's personal life, and/or reliving our heady Dungeons and Dragons filled youths.

Most of us would prefer traditional values be respected instead of denigrated. And many of us are quite religious. But the absurd notion that Bob Jones III will be crowned emperor next week persists on the left in spite of any sustainable evidence.

They want an enemy. And they'll twist us into one no matter what the facts are on the ground.

You nailed it right here I think:

They have very firm ideas on what "values" this nation ought to embrace. They're just not willing to discuss what those values might be-- at least not publicly.

This was all about 8 months ago, the ban was only for 5 days. The only post I've made since being banned was on 11/3 and it read something to the effect of:

Elected, not selected. Bitches.

Ace,

Let me try and follow your liberal friend's logic. Passing a Constitutional amendment that says flag burning is illegal is unconstitutional. The income tax is illegal people should add that to their list of excuses--the amendment allowing an income tax is unconstitutional. If it's part of the Constitution it is constitutional. These guys are amazing.

Hm. Well, that's a plan. Taperecord those two lines "If it doesn't matter then let it pass," and "Yes, you do care." and we can keep the liberals forever arguing about whether or not they care instead of having to put up with them in the next election.

Talk about pinning the tail right on the Donkey's liberal leftist ass. Nice job Ace. I think that to a lot of people who chose the "Moral values" issue were saying that obviously lying about what you stand for in order to get elected shows a lack of "moral values". The split up of Iraq and the War on Terror was a flagrant attempt to dilute the importance of that issue too. To security hawks, Iraq and the WOT are one and the same, but they were likely to choose the WOT as their issue. Anti war weenies who don't think they are related were more likely to seperate Iraq and the WOT and vote against Bush based on Iraq. Totaly snow job.

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