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October 29, 2004
The Only Endorsement That MattersOsama bin Ladin, echoing Andrew Sullivan, states "This is the endorsement I never thought I'd make" For years I suspected Osama might be dead because I could not imagine why he would not triumphantly announce his survival, were he in fact alive. I knew he was waiting for a big event to announce he was alive-- but I thought that Madrid, for example, was a big enough event for him to show his demonic face, were still capable of doing so. Turns out he was waiting for an even bigger event-- the chance to endorse Senator John Forbes Kerry for President on the eve of the American elections. If you have any ideas that you're not voting on Tuesday: I don't even know what to say to you. I know I'd think less of you. Osama bin Ladin is the only endorsement that counts, and he sure the hell has secured my vote. Coming Soon: Mickey Kaus argues that Osama bin Ladin is, after all, just one member of Al Qaeda, but that the rest of this fine organization really are big Bush supporters! posted by Ace at 06:44 PM
CommentsDang, I was hpoing for a recent newspaper in the background. Posted by: RapidTransit on October 29, 2004 07:07 PM
...er, hoping, that is. Posted by: RapidTransit on October 29, 2004 07:07 PM
How long until Andy suggests that this videotape is intended by bin Laden to help Bush beat Kerry, because UBL fears Kerry's "fiscal sanity" and "humane, noninterventionist approach to the most important civil rights issue of our generation?" Posted by: Jeff B. on October 29, 2004 07:09 PM
Islam, psycho-terrorist version: "necromancy is allowed if it is for the jihad against the infidel, Allah tahala." Posted by: Andrea Harris on October 29, 2004 07:20 PM
Al Jazeera only put out about 1 minute of the video, which runs 10 minutes. Probably lots more interesting stuff in the remaining 9 minutes. What he said so far, was odious, obviously not sincere, but at times perceptive: 1. Bush is full of shit when he says "They hate us for our freedom". Binnie says love of freedom is why Muslims attacked - to avenge Zionist and American oppression. "We didn't attack Sweden, while Sweden is free, there is a reason for that." 2. Said he was thinking of hitting America back since 1982, when US warships shelled Lebanon in support of the Israeli invasion. 3. "If you don't bother us, we won't bother you"....ignoring that Australia, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Spain, India, Turkey, Tunisia are strongly anti-Zionist, (Outside the US, Israel is globally regarded on a par with Apartheid S. Africa) but were attacked anyways by Al Qaeda. 4. Like Michael Moore, he got a hoot out of Bush not getting up when he knew America was under attack, but spent 7 minutes listening to some child reading about a pet goat. Posted by: Cedarford on October 29, 2004 07:21 PM
Hmmm...I recall a spirited discussion here a while back about whether he was alive or not. Forecasting check: most people said if he were alive, he would have released a video by now because he's an egomaniac. Others said we just can't get inside his head and figure out what he'd do because he's nuckin' futs, so we don't know whether he's alive or not. Looks like everybody was kind of right. Posted by: See Dubya on October 29, 2004 07:30 PM
I hope everyone has the sense to raise their guard a notch. "Conventional" wisdom is that video releases such as this always follow a drop in "chatter", and are followed by a significant attack. Please, be on the alert, and be safe. Posted by: fretless on October 29, 2004 08:16 PM
Apparently Cedarford agrees wholeheartedly with bin Shithead, which should come as no particular surprise to anyone. Those of us who are capable of thought uninspired by Moore, Choadsky, and the gang tend to disagree. Posted by: zetetic on October 29, 2004 08:19 PM
I'm not buying it. He wouldn't be talking about how sad he is that Bush couldn't save all those poor people. He's not that smart and he's not that dumb. This is a fake. Posted by: Smack on October 29, 2004 08:24 PM
Hi Cedarford, 1) Binnie is the one full of shit if he claims the Islamifascists are fighting for freedom. How is some guy who throws acid in the face of a woman who dares not to wear a veil 'fighting for freedom'? No they didn't attack Sweden (yet?), but as you point out, they have attacked just a -few- other countries. 2) Not sure how this is perceptive... he's just complaining about Americans helping the Joooooos. 3) Heh. Indeed. 4) Maybe he can get some ideas from 'Triumph of the Will' for the next recruiting video. My thoughts when I read this quote were that he was whining about not getting the 50,000 deaths he'd hoped for, and saying Bush cared more about goats than people was a wee bit of projection. Posted by: Michelle on October 29, 2004 08:38 PM
Oh, by the way. Cedarford, Michelle? They already HAVE hit Sweden and the rest of Europe. In fact, they've already taken over Europe. Violence is no longer necessary--they're already putting Sharia law into place there. And once we "give in" as Cedarford and bin Laden suggest, there will be no more violence here either. Once you have broken your dog, there is no more need for the rolled up newspaper. Posted by: Smack on October 29, 2004 08:54 PM
zetetic - Once more, for the slow of reading, zetetic: What he said so far, was odious, obviously not sincere, but at times perceptive Get it now, zetetic? With only one minute released so far, Binnie has done some fine propaganda. He points to the only incident when we actually worked with Israel in a war, to solidify the notion of a US Crusader -Zionist alliance as the cause of his wanting 9/11 - ignoring his 1998 Fatwa which said US soldiers in Saudi Arabia was the real reason why he was declaring war on us. He tells Euroweenies and the rest of the world that if they leave Muslims to their freedom ---they will not be attacked for being tools of the Zionists or it's US sockpuppet. With the rest of the world as disgusted by what Israel has been doing on the West Bank as they were with Apartheid S. Africa (while hypocritically ignoring the Chinese Settlers taking Tibet) - that is a message to ditch the US as the country corrupted by Zionist money, which blocks 30 years of UN votes on bringing resolution to the ME. The truth is more with the US position than Binnie's, but the truths he gives, via his advisors, may be enough to make even the US Left think that peace with Islamism is possible. These guys are not stupid. They are using the Israeli albatross hanging around our neck to maximum advantage, to isolate America. I pointed out that just being anti-Zionist has not protected Australia, the UK, Turkey, Tunisia, Spain, etc., from Al Qaeda attacks - so they obviously have bigger goals than ending brutal Zionist colonization. They are after infidels... Wait to see what the fit, rested, and tanned Binnie says in his other 9 minutes. Like Yamamoto, Rommel, or Robert E. Lee, he is an exceptional enemy. Posted by: Cedarford on October 29, 2004 08:58 PM
Okay, this is a bit silly, but... look at the Bin Laden picture. Then look at the Kerry picture in the top left of Ace's main page. Put a long beard, moustache, and robes on Kerry... they could be long-lost brothers. Posted by: on October 29, 2004 09:00 PM
Sorry, that was me. Posted by: Dave on October 29, 2004 09:01 PM
Well, I thought he was dead. It just goes to show you can't hire a decent warlord anymore! Posted by: BrewFan on October 29, 2004 09:12 PM
Cedarford, On what basis do you put bin Laden in the same class as Rommel, Yamamoto, and Robert E. Lee? It might be better if you just admit you're full of it. It'll save us all some time. Posted by: BrewFan on October 29, 2004 09:27 PM
I just read the transcribe of the video at Drudge...one line just jumps out for it's...completely not like OBL's broken and tortured english -- Each state that doesnt mess with our security has automatically secured their security. Excuuuuse me? 'Mess With'?! Given that the man can barely string two coherent english language words together, how likely is it that he actually said that? If he did, he definitely had a not-real-good speech writer on this one. No, no, no. I have real problems with this. Any lipreaders in the house that can look at that video and confirm that that is in fact what he said? Finally, what is the deal with the podium? He has consistently been a bare hills and goats kind of pig-dog. Maybe his legs were blown off. That would be just wonderful. Posted by: bkayel on October 29, 2004 09:31 PM
Not as wonderful as him actually being a plague-ridden stain on a collapsed Tora Bora cave wall but still nothing to sneeze at. [fair disclosure, I thought the insane bast*rd was that stain, and would like to know exactly how this video was 'authenticated'], Posted by: bkayel on October 29, 2004 09:39 PM
Smack - You are a muttonhead. To defeat an enemy, you have to understand their appeal, their intelligence, what tactics . Think - again, Adm. Yamoto, Robert E. Lee, Rommel....Islam has NOT taken over Europe, smack. Maybe in 50 years when demography allows if Europe doesn't wholeheartedly join in the war against the Islamist menace - but not in your silly alarmist nighmares of the moment. No one is talking about giving in - just acknowledging the enemy, particularly Bin Laden, is very capable. Michelle - To the rest of the world, America's tilt to the Zionist colonies is a problem. It's not all about the "Joooooos", as you narcissistically say, not when Canada, Australia, Japan, the UK, Mexico, and Russia all agree, along with everyone else, in those 189-2 UN votes, that Israel is America's greatest international liability. Binnie knows that, and like any clever enemy, puts it out as the Zionist-American Crusader Alliance - which makes it difficult for America to obtain allies. Posted by: Cedarford on October 29, 2004 09:49 PM
Smack - You are a muttonhead. I love you too, sweetie-pie. Posted by: Smack on October 29, 2004 09:57 PM
I had convinced myself that he was dead. To bad I was wrong about that. I have to go look for an article that I read yesterday, saying they spotted him in Pakistan. Posted by: USAgrannyPajamahadeen on October 29, 2004 10:12 PM
Brewfan ignorantly writes: On what basis do you put bin Laden in the same class as Rommel, Yamamoto, and Robert E. Lee? It might be better if you just admit you're full of it. It'll save us all some time. 1. In a single attack, at the expense of 19 lives and 600,000 dollars in expenses, the Muslim "David" caught "Goliath" USA with it's pants down. Caused 1 trillion in damages, took 2800 lives, and hit the centers of American power. If not for bad timing, and a few brave Americans that never got the cop/firefighter 1.5 million in "America's Greatest Heros" extra charity and bennies, the US Capital would have been a smoking pit. 2. Bin Laden evolved assymetric warfare. It's now the model. Net-centric, no "Mr. Big" to hit, instantaneous global communications, simultaneous attacks, hundreds emulate him. 3. Won several hundred million people over to admire him. Did more to challenge the West and the Zionists than any Muslim in the last 100 years. 4. Guy's gotten away with it so far. Yamoto lasted 2 years, Lee 3.5 years, Rommel went 5 years. Binnie is already past Yamoto and Lee in survivability duration. We still have no idea where he is. 5. Poor ignaroid Brewfan believes that no enemy should be taken seriously, or their capabilities respected - those that claim otherwise are "full of it!" I guess since no enemy - General Giap, Guderian, Binnie, etc., is capable of withstanding the American hyperpower "cakewalk" we choose to embark on. Earth to Brewfan - the neocons are in disgrace!! Posted by: Cedarford on October 29, 2004 10:17 PM
Ok, does anyone else think that UBL looks like Sauruman the White?
Posted by: Iblis on October 29, 2004 10:21 PM
Meh, CBS re-launches the Bush AWOL story and the next day it is debunked and blows up in the Dems faces. CBS/NYT launches the missing explosives story and the next day it is debunked enough to blow up in the Dems faces. OBL launches another video tape and the next day it blows up in the dems faces? If Bush had produced OBL before the election, the left would have jumped on the claim that Bush had him on ice. What better way to dispel that myth by having OBL release a video tape prior to his capture? I don't have a lot of faith in the tape either way. No mention of iraq? Afghan elections? Iraq Elections? The presidential race more than mentioning Kerry? It seems OBL had a stockpile of these things, how hard is it to capture one recorded just after 9/11, which obviously would talk most about 9/11 and falsely insert some statement about Kerry in there in an attempt to make it seem up to date. Why talk about a truce with European nations if they pull out of muslim countries without mentioning the most obvcious being Iraq?
Posted by: Delphiguy on October 29, 2004 10:28 PM
Cedarford, Oh, and 9-11 also got Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and several other countries to remove (at least) their direct support for the Taliban and al Queda. That's a remarkable thing. And all those countries have killed more than a few terrorists in the intervening years. While I agree we should respect our enemies, I also think it is legitimate to note his inconceivable ignorance of America. I'm fairly sure we understand his motivation better than he ours. And there's no reason to attack me personally. I've seen the way you've reacted to challenges above and I think it's petty. I'm trying to further the comments so you can leave the personal stuff in your diary. Posted by: Birkel on October 29, 2004 10:45 PM
Birkel - While I admire your ostensible goal of elevating the debate, if you read closer, you will note that I responded to: 1. Smack saying "If we give in as Cedarford and Bin Laden suggest", 2. Zetetic saying " Apparently Cedarford agrees wholeheartedly with bin Shithead, which should come as no particular surprise to anyone." 3. Brewfan saying "It might be better if you just admit you're full of it." So if you wish to lecture on petty responses, Birkel, you may want to start with the source rather than the rebuttals I made. Posted by: Cedarford on October 29, 2004 11:09 PM
After observing you for a while now, it seems that you have no communication skills. You consistently seem to take all sides of every issue at once. Then, you get upset when people (mis)understand you. At any rate, if you made a point I wasn't getting, I'm sorry. Posted by: Smack on October 29, 2004 11:46 PM
Like Yamamoto, Rommel, or Robert E. Lee, he is an exceptional enemy. Give me a break. All three of those very capable men were able to direct the resources of entire countries in support of the constructive (or at least imperialistic) agendas of nations. OBL can muster the financial support of only a fragmented collection of cultural freaks and unhappy self-hating misfits, essentially the Islamic equivalents of Michael Moore, and his operational troops are clumsy hoodlums whose only military value comes from the fact that they consider themselves completely expendable. He can support no national goals whatsoever. All he can do is run out of his cave, kill some people, and then run back in again before the jarheads find him and stuff a bayonet up his behind. Can anyone imagine him supporting the goals of any organized nation? Of course not -- that nation would be as much history as the Taliban as soon as the association became clear. OBL is a dead end. He can remain potent only so long as his plans are unpredictable, which is to say only as long as he has no fixed or rational goals and is associated with no large and obvious group of people. As soon as he becomes predictable, as soon as he associates himself with a people or a nation, he becomes a liability, not an asset. In fact, his only real worth is as a bogeyman for domestic politics. Kerry or Bush ought to pay his salary, really. Yes of course he's survived longer than, say, Robert E. Lee. That's because Lee's strategy wasn't limited to dashing out of a cave near Savannah, shooting a dozen women and children on a picnic, dashing back in again before the posse arrived, and then spending four years lying doggo while his foot-soldiers were slaughtered like cattle. Heck, with a whack-a-mole strategy like that OBL could lead as long (and ultimately futile) a life as many another careful serial killer. Posted by: Darlington County on October 30, 2004 12:17 AM
I'm with Darlington on this one. OBL was always a figurehead, a politician, not a planner. The guy who really planned out the 9-11 attacks was Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, whom you guys might remember as the hairy-backed guy in a wifebeater and a "quit shining that light in my eyes" expression when we arrested him in 2002. That's your Rommel, Cedarford: OBL was Hitler. We're safer cause that guy's gone. We're safer cause his brain isn't working for their side and it's being picked over for ours. Bin laden can hire more guys, but we've got one of their creative and deadly agents out of the way. Cedarford's taking a lot of flak here. I think he's just a Buchananite paleocon, with his derision of Zionists and neocons. I haven't seen anything that leads me to identify him with Chomsky. But you'll excuse us, Cedarford, if we're a little touchy about that "Israeli albatross" you keep bringing up. Posted by: See-Dubya on October 30, 2004 01:15 AM
Thanks to Darlington for his fisking of Cedarfords theory that UBL is some kind of strategic genius. Cedarford, when you make outrageous statements like that with no evidence to back them up it makes you look like a troll, which, personally, I think you are. P.S. Giap's claim to fame is he beat the French. BFD. He never won a battle with U.S. Forces and I would argue that the strategic outcome in Vietnam was due to U.S. politics and nothing he or Uncle Ho did. Posted by: BrewFan on October 30, 2004 09:17 AM
Darlington - If you look past the US borders for opinion, you will find a huge reservior of sympathy for OBL, not all his deeds, but as someone standing up to US policies they too disagree with. The classic guerilla tactic of hiding in a sea of sympathetic peasants. Where he has failed is that other nations perceive his agenda as dangerous to them, as well. It appears he recognizes this and his "message to the American people" was crafted to state that his agenda now will only target those who target Muslims. Brewfan & See-Dubya - Al Qaeda has forged a new version of assymetric warfare together. Of course it wasn't all OBL. He had lots of help. As for the Israeli albatross, you may not like the Coleridge imagery, but with 30 years of Israel defying UN Resolutions that even the US voted for, and the US blocking UN actions in those 189-2 votes - like France did to us with Iraq, America's image abroad is hurt. Badly. Posted by: Cedarford on October 30, 2004 11:43 AM
You need to check out this video ad http://www.scopecreep.com/Kerry_Bin_Laden_0001.wmv
Robert Posted by: Tiny on October 30, 2004 12:08 PM
There is a big difference between UN votes in the Security Council and in the General Assembly. Posted by: Greg Schreiber on October 30, 2004 02:27 PM
As for the Israeli albatross, you may not like the Coleridge imagery, but with 30 years of Israel defying UN Resolutions Here's a clue: neither the UN nor any other international "government" has any legitimacy. They simply don't matter. Israel was there 3500 years ago, and they deserve to be there now. Posted by: Smack on October 30, 2004 07:20 PM
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