they are in a full lather at dailykos about this. They should remember there is footage of their Messiah picking his nose in the archives. this plays well in the south. We are all like, "Fukin' yeah!"

It sort of makes me hot. In that Billy Squire in the 80s sort of way.

Compare the way he does his hair with a single palm stroke with the inordinate attention lavished by Edwards on his do in that other video.

It's all about hypocrisy - this man panders to a base of conservative christianity, calls himself a compassionate conservative and a born again christian whose favorite philosopher was Christ.

He is a jackass fratboy. We just can't believe that he gets away with presenting himself as paragon of virtue.

Sorry tony, but compared to your boy he is a paragon of virtue.

Hmm... Jackass fratboy, or pandering liberal pathological liar? Yep, gotta go with the fratboy.

while flipping the bird is crass it is not like he is calling god's name in vane. Hang ups about the word "Fuck" are distinctly American. Have you ever been around Irish folks? I mean serious Irish folks. Fuck is like a conjunction in every sentence they utter. Priests included!

Plus, there are an awful lot of Black folks who spend a lot of time in church and say the "f" word a great deal. They do not, however say, Goddamn very often.

I personally think if john kerry flipped the bird or said shit every now and again his poll numbers would go up. Did Dick Cheney telling Leahy to go fuck himself cost the ticket anything? Hell no. It probably gave them a few points.

As far as presenting himself as a paragon of virtue I see him always talking about how he has changed and grown up and been "forgiven" so to speak.

Kerry stand up and talks about being an alter boy in one breath then supports partial birth abortion in the next. If he wants to be pro choice and pro everything else his "Devout Beliefs" disagree with, he needs to become an Episcopalian. He obviously has no problem taking communion at other churches, so he is halfway there. Then he can get on his moral high horse and preach all he wants. He has no business calling himself a Devout Catholic in anyway.

Paragon of virtue? I don't think he'd make any such claim, Tony. You don't stop being human when you get baptized. I think the South Park Republicans are going to like this one.

And I'm certain all those people out there who might be offended enough to change their vote because of ye old flying bird are reading this on Slate on the internets.

You want a paragon of virtue, that's old JFK. He's just oozing over with virtuous, mellow, caring virtue. He has plans. He cares more than you. When he swears, like in the Rolling Stone interview, it comes off as phony and forced, like a lot of his attempts to be "normal". Can't stand the guy. Gick.

I'm a paragon of virtue and I will occasionally flip the bird in a compassionate conservitive sort of way.

Now if you show me a video of him secretly discussing the assassination of U.S. senators, or meeting with the Vietcong, I might have to reconsider my vote.

The whole "bird-flipping" thing just makes the President look human which is one of the characteristics people like about him. If Kerry did the same thing, people would laugh themselves silly.

Jennifer was right about this being like the Cheney-Leahy thing. Most people would like to tell Leahy to "fuck off" so it was no big deal. This isn't either.

Milty:

Ask and ye shall receive.

DO cut and paste this link, and turn the sound up, for a fine bit of blog collaboration between the Recycler, Jeff G, and INDC Bill:

http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/choice.html

Dubya's primp hand is strong.

Tony - I'm one of those conservative Christians that you believe the President panders to, I'm a born-again Christian, and I thought the video was freakin' hilarious. "Christian" does not have to equal "humorless" or "holier-than-thou" or "perfect." He wasn't taking the Lord's name in vain, he wasn't blaspheming ... he flipped someone the bird. Don't try to make this into some sign of hypocrisy or dishonesty ... he's a good-ol'-boy down deep, and we all know that. It just so happens that he's also a deeply sincere man who many of us trust far more than the plastic, hollow Kerry.

You're right. The coke-snorting, death-row mocking, drunk-driving, duty-shirking stuff... All of that does makes him look more human (like a lot of other human jack-asses). But he only LOOKS more human. He really is just a dry-drunk chimpanzee.

Tony,

You sweet little orphan. Now we all know your source of information...the National Enquirer. Since you've also made it obvious you're a gay, scum-loving, holier than thou, aristocratic, hub cap on a Hudson Hornet, curb feelin', kinda' sweety. Don't seem to bother you much that the obscenely rich, caviar gulping, butt munching, lily livered turncoat you obviously support is guilty of far worse than the litany of misdemenors your daddy committed.

Maybe some day you'll grow up and be an adult. Until then go back to mommy and daddy and help them elect Mr. Swave and deboner.

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