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October 26, 2004

John Kerry: "I actually supported my country during the Vietnam War, before I aided the enemy's propaganda efforts"

More cognitive dissonance for you. Hard to believe, but it turns out that the North Vietnamese government strongly approved of John Kerry's version of "patriotism":

The communist regime in Hanoi monitored closely and looked favorably upon the activities of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War during the period Senator Kerry served most actively as the group's spokesman and a member of its executive committee, two captured Viet Cong documents suggest.

The documents - one dubbed a "circular" and the other a "directive" - were captured in 1971 and are part of a trove of material from the war currently stored at the Vietnam Archive at Texas Tech University at Lubbock. Originally organized by Douglas Pike, a major scholar who is now deceased, the archive contains more than 20 million documents. ... Their authenticity was confirmed by Stephen Maxner, archivist at the Vietnam Archive.
The two documents provide a glimpse of the favorable way the Viet Cong viewed the activities in which Mr. Kerry was involved. ...

The CDEC cover sheet of the "Directive" indicates it was "acquired" on May 12, 1971. The cover sheet itself is dated June 30, 1971, and is entitled "VC Efforts to Back Antiwar Demonstrations in the United States." It shows a detailed knowledge of such VVAW activities as the Dewey Canyon demonstration on the Mall in Washington in April 1971, mentioning the "return of their medals." And the Saigon American military intelligence cover sheet dates the information in that document as being assembled in Vietnam only a week after the Washington VVAW demonstration had taken place.

The CDEC Viet Cong document titled "Circular on Antiwar Movements in the US" notes, "The spontaneous antiwar movements in the US have received assistance and guidance from the friendly (VC/NVN) delegations at the Paris Peace Talks." It also notes that "The seven-point peace proposal (of the SVN Provisional Revolutionary Government) [the Viet Cong proposal advanced by one of its envoys, Madame Binh, operating out of Paris] not only solved problems concerning the release of US prisoners but also motivated the people of all walks of life and even relatives of US pilots detained in NVN to participate in the antiwar movement."

More here and here.

World Net Daily provides the money quote:

Kerry insists he attended the talks only because he happened to be in France on his honeymoon and maintains he met with both sides. But previously revealed records indicate the future senator made two, and possibly three, trips to Paris to meet with Viet Cong leader Madame Nguyen Thi Binh then promote her plan's demand for U.S. surrender.
Jerome Corsi, a specialist on the Vietnam era, told WND the new discoveries are the "most remarkable documents I've seen in the entire history of the antiwar movement."

"We're not going to say he's an agent for Vietnamese communists, but it's the next thing to it," he said. "Whether he was consciously carrying out their direction or naively doing what they wanted, it amounted to the same thing -- he advanced their cause."

Thanks to JohnG.

Blogging is so damn easy when stuff like this just appears in your mailbox, as if delivered by right-wing elves.

Cool Update! Turns out that one of the guys actually researching this and verifying the documents was a blogger I've occasionally read. He's got more on the story. Plus, it's a bit of the story behind the story.

Kudos to you, In the Bullpen. Keep slicing like an f'n' hammer.

posted by Ace at 11:44 AM

Comments

This particular right-wing elf/underpants gnome sent you another "missing explosives" analysis piece that synchs up with what Drudge is now reporting.

Or, read it here:
http://garfieldridge.blogspot.com/2004/10/are-any-of-missing-weapons-documents.html

Cheers,
Dave

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on October 26, 2004 11:50 AM

I found the online archives where the documents in question were kept.

I've got the two documents on my site in PDF format. I can't find when the documents were uploaded, however.

Posted by: Rob on October 26, 2004 11:52 AM

SLANDERER-IN-CHIEF?

In his 1972 riveting testimony John Kerry detailed to the Congress and the world the many atrocities committed in Viet Nam as reported to him by fellow veterans. While he laid the blame at the top the actions themselves were supposedly committed by the troops on the ground. It was the troops, not the leaders, who ultimately bore the stains of this testimony. Testimony it turns out that was largely false, a slander. A slander that John Kerry remains proud of to this very day. Indeed, it sets a pattern that is foundational to his current campaign to become Commander-in-Chief.
John Kerry blames our failure to decimate Al Queda to the man at Tora Bora on President Bush. But, to get there he implicitly lays the blame on the commanders in the field. It is they who made the decisions about what troops and equipment to use. It was they who decided to work with locals. It was they who failed at the point of direct action, if there was any failure here at all. Kerry stains them to achieve his higher goal, just as he stained our soldiers in Viet Nam. But, of course, an abundance of evidence exists that Tora Bora was an unqualified success, evidence conveniently ignored by John Kerry since it interferes mightily with his higher goal of portraying President Bush as incompetent. So, slandering the troops once again is his weapon of choice.
Today we see Kerry blaming President Bush for a failure to secure high powered explosives. And how does one get there. Well, once again it is the troops and commanders in the field who would have been most directly able to take the correct action and apparently failed to do so. Once again the troops are stained in order to achieve the higher goal. And, once again it is all a slander. The troops are slandered, the President is crippled, but the goal is advanced.
In my opinion Lynn Cheney made the most complete and insightful characterization of John Kerry when she announced that “This is not a good man.” Moreover, the notion that there is even a remote likelihood that we would elect such a man to this nation’s office speaks very directly to the level of “goodness” present in this country.

STOP KERRY’s TROOP SLANDER! VOTE BUSH!

Posted by: wbillc on October 26, 2004 12:03 PM

Collaborating with the enemy in time of was is Treason. Since Vietnam wasn't a declared "war", Kerry got to skate.

But yeah, he is a TRAITOR; a traitor who might end up as president.

Just remember that thatis presidential candidate was collaborating witht he enemy while American kids were getting killed and wouded by that enemy.

Posted by: J M Galvin on October 26, 2004 12:08 PM

“With the same energy . . . I put into going after the Viet Cong and trying to win for our country, I pledge to you I will hunt down and capture or kill the terrorists before they harm us.”

Not comforting at all.

Posted by: Golden Boy on October 26, 2004 01:46 PM

You can confirm the process by which SwiftVets
did their research, its on their chats realtime.

Navy Chief on Sept. 13 goes to take a look at Texas Tech.

The timing and process are all there in the real time archives at SwiftVets.com. You can see the timing, rationale, process etc.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9071

Do Gooder

Posted by: Do Gooder on October 26, 2004 09:55 PM

British Veteran on Remembrance Day: We fought for freedom, and we had a lot more of it when the Germans were threatening than we do now

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TJM talks about his Top Ten Movies of All-Time.

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Why does this keep happening to members of the "political organization" (per Tucker Carlson) of Hamas?!?!

Tucker Carlson claims that it's weird that Ted Cruz is interested in the massacre of Christians by Nigerian Muslims, because he has "no track record of being interested in Christians," then blows off the massacre of Christians by Nigerian Muslims, saying it might or might not be a real concern
Tucker Carlson enjoys using the left-wing tactic of "Tactical Ignorance" to avoid taking positions on topics. Is Hamas really a terrorist organization? Tucker can't say. He hasn't looked into it enough, but "it seems like a political organization to me." Are Muslims slaughtering Christians in Nigeria? Again, Tucker just doesn't know. He hasn't examined the evidence yet. He knows every Palestinian Christian who said he was blocked from visiting holy sites in Bethlehem, but he just hasn't had the time to look into the mass slaughter of Christians in Nigeria that has been going on since (checks watch) 2009. He doesn't know, so he can't offer an opinion. Wouldn't be prudent, you know? Don't rush him! He'll sift through the evidence at some point in the future and render an opinion sometime around 2044.
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Whatever we do we must never "divide the right," huh?
Tucker is attacking Ted Cruz for bringing the issue up because he's acting as an apologist for Jihadism, and he can't cleanly admit that Jihadists are killing any Christians, anywhere. There is no daylight between him and CAIR at this point.
One might conclude that Tucker Carlson himself isn't interested in the plight of Christians -- except as they can be used as a cudgel to attack Jews.
Just gonna ask an Interesting Question myself -- why is it that Tucker Carlson's arguments all track with those shit out by Qatarian propaganda agents and the far left? That if Jews crush an ant underfoot it is worldwide news, but when Muslims slaughter Christians it elicits not even a vigorous shrug?

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From the comments:

I once glimpsed Garth in the penumbra betwixt my wake and sleep. He was in my dream, standing afar, not looking my way, nor did he acknowledge me. But I felt seen. And that's when I knew I was a traveler on the right path. I'm glad he's still with us.

Now that's some Merenghian prose.
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Posted by: Notsothoreau

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Good to see people honoring Lamont the Big Dummy

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No lies detected so far