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October 13, 2004

Was Kerry Honorably Discharged?

Suspicions swirl. Don't expect the MSM to demand that Kerry release his military records to rebut these suspicions:

An official Navy document on Senator Kerry's campaign Web site listed as Mr. Kerry's "Honorable Discharge from the Reserves" opens a door on a well kept secret about his military service.

The document is a form cover letter in the name of the Carter administration's secretary of the Navy, W. Graham Claytor. It describes Mr. Kerry's discharge as being subsequent to the review of "a board of officers." This in it self is unusual. There is nothing about an ordinary honorable discharge action in the Navy that requires a review by a board of officers.

According to the secretary of the Navy's document, the "authority of reference" this board was using in considering Mr. Kerry's record was "Title 10, U.S. Code Section 1162 and 1163. "This section refers to the grounds for involuntary separation from the service. What was being reviewed, then, was Mr. Kerry's involuntary separation from the service. And it couldn't have been an honorable discharge, or there would have been no point in any review at all. The review was likely held to improve Mr. Kerry's status of discharge from a less than honorable discharge to an honorable discharge.

A Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, was asked whether Mr. Kerry had ever been a victim of an attempt to deny him an honorable discharge. There has been no response to that inquiry.

...

There is one odd coincidence that gives some weight to the possibility that Mr. Kerry was dishonorably discharged. Mr. Kerry has claimed that he lost his medal certificates and that is why he asked that they be reissued. But when a dishonorable discharge is issued, all pay benefits, and allowances, and all medals and honors are revoked as well. And five months after Mr. Kerry joined the U.S. Senate in 1985, on one single day, June 4, all of Mr. Kerry's medals were reissued.

Thanks to Kristian.

And, ummm...

There may be more to this all. I think it would be irresponsible to link the rumor I'm talking about, so I won't. In this respect I am more responsible than the New York Times.

More: Beldar's on the case, too.

And you don't want Beldar on your case. Trust me on this.


posted by Ace at 02:04 PM
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Ace,

I know it was tough to pull yourself away from hunky colin ferrel's bisexuality, but good job!

Posted by: hobgoblin on October 13, 2004 02:11 PM

I think the better question would be "Does Kerry HAVE a discharge?"

heh heh

Posted by: Dave on October 13, 2004 02:13 PM

My take on Lipscomb's article includes quotes from and links to the relevant statutes (which are otherwise kind of hard to locate because of a 1994 reorganization of Title 10 of the U.S. Code).

Posted by: Beldar on October 13, 2004 02:51 PM

You're making that bit about a "rumor" up, right?

Right?

SCREW INTEGRITY, I WANT THE QUESTIONABLY SOURCED RED MEAT.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 13, 2004 03:07 PM

Jeff,

Then I suggest you search Free Republic for "Kerry Security Clearance."

Posted by: ace on October 13, 2004 03:09 PM

Gotcha.

Damn. That is red-hot. Wonder if there's any way to prove it?

No wonder he won't release his security clearances.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 13, 2004 03:31 PM

Er...I meant military records.

And I know quite a bit about security clearances, by the way. I'm surprised he was granted them to sit on the Intelligence Committee, honestly. Perhaps there's an "elected official" exemption.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 13, 2004 03:32 PM

Jeff B.-

If I remember correctly, elected officials are considered "cleared by the American people" by the FBI. If you look at the background on some in congress, I doubt they'd pass any other way.

Posted by: Jack Grey on October 13, 2004 04:36 PM

I'll state first that I do not care for Kerry personally, for the vast majority of his positions where a vote in the Senate was involved, and for what I see of his proposed foreign policy (Let us return to those golden days of yesteryear, when the US was isolationist and let the rest of the world construct its own handbasket in which to...).

But on this one thing, his discharge, I really don't see much. It may have been part of a push to get rid of supernumerary officers - and the expenses of paying and giving benefits (eg PX privileges) to officers who would probably never go active again.

Some have said he joined in 1966, so why was he not discharged earlier. Well, the 66 was in what seems to have been Naval ROTC. When his deferments were stopped, he could have used that to join: BUT by joining the Navy directly, he probably could pretty much select his first posting from any available - at least it was that way in 1965, when I used my draft notice to join the "Regular" Army instead of the draftee Army (the recruiting sergeant pulled strings, knowing that I had already tried to enlist twice and been turned down). So, that would make his date of service 1970 - and two years active followed by six in the reserve, standard terms, would have put his discharge circa 1978.

All that said, just why won't he sign the release form for his records?

Posted by: John Anderson on October 13, 2004 11:00 PM
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