Why are you investing so much time and energy into this particular issue, Ace?

Hmmmm. It makes me wonder about you. You know what they say about 'protesting too much...'

Mwaa ha ha haaa

Aaargh. Et tu, LauraW?

You're just mad about the Dennis Finch remark at the end.

Well said Ace, boy I sure...well...I've never felt this way about a man before...you're just so...I...I have to go...

I find it amusing that it is some sort of indictment against Christianity that it has repressed the urge for men to have sex with boys ... let me get this straight? That is/was a bad thing? (I'm hiding my boys away in a closet ... NOT that closet ... a closet that keeps 'em away from the likes of Oliver Stone.)

So far as it goes, I think most women are a little easier going on the whole matter than men. I also suspect that being a California girl makes me think that. Oh, well.

On the other hand, well, who would you rather think about in the act of stuffing classified documents in his/her undies, Fawn Hall or Sandy Berger?

I'm pretty seriously hetero, and I'm here to tell you the answer is definitely Fawn.

As for Alexander's sexuality, he definitely prefered guys by the historical accounts, and nobody cared, much, at the time.

A-hem.

Mm-hmm. Mmmm-hm.

Ace--

The real scandal is that Stone's movie may depict Alexander as some sort of hero, and not the butcher he was (or, if they *do* depict him as a butcher, it'll be of those innocent little brown people to the East).

Don't take my word for it, take Victor Davis Hanson's word for it:

http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson100904b.html

Cheers,
Dave

I'm pretty sure you can see one of Glenn's nipples in that shot, by the way. That seems relevant, doesn't it?

Huh?!

Is this the right thread for Glenn's nipples?

(Is ANY thread the right thread for Glenn's nipples?)

Whoa! Where's my head at? For some reason I thought you were talking about Glenn Reynold's nipples.

I completely forgot I mentioned Glenn Close in this post.

I guess you probably can see her nipples there, sort of. I've never really looked. Glenn Close has always had about as much sex appeal to me as a Sports Illustrated football phone.

Good post.

James

James,

Good comment.

Frances

Frances,

Good surrebuttal.

Ace

Generally speaking, i have the `Eeeuw, yuck!` reaction to male homosexuality. But I don't want to stone them, or even keep them from visiting a partner in the Intensive Care Unit (because they are not "family", as is a heterosexual with a form from the State).

With the possible exception of Sparta, I think most societies frowned upon - but tolerated - homosexuality. Until something prompted the Leviticus book to proclaim it an "abomination" (far worse than a mere "sin" like murder).

Of course, according to that book, if you've ever had a ham sandwich or eaten lobster, you have also committed an "abomination".

Yeah, I agree with all that. I think men have an inborn revulsion to touching other men, which is why you don't hug your father much after you're past 12 years old.

Women don't have that, with the caregiver thing and all, which is why they braid each other's hair, walk arm in arm, and occasionally have some hot girl-on-girl action.

"I think it's very nice that some on the left are/have been attracted to the same sex, and maybe have been a little more than attracted. I'm not going to "deny your sexuality" or whatnot."

This is a freaking amazing comment and it went unchallenged. So homosexuality is "peculiar" to those on the left? I think I speak for every thinking person when I say WHAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT?????

Historically, Alexander and Hephaestion's relationship was unusual because they were the same age. But the norm then was boy & man (which I bet Stone doesn't even mention in the movie), not boy & boy. But he also had a wife, with whom he (apparently, pre blood-tests) conceived a child.

Historically, Stone seems to be correct; but the rumours suggest the movie is a turkey.